USB (permissions ?) problem on newly installed Bullseye : usb scanner wont communicate

2023-04-23 Thread bd
Hi to Everyone, My old Debian Stretch having crashed after last update, I installed Bullseye. Most things operate OK after re-installing, except so far: 'gphoto2' and my Epson Scanner Perfection v500. I have re-installed the scanner using : epsonscan2_6.7.43.0-1_amd64.deb and epso

ndiswrapper (was: Re: Drivers for old Packard Bell scanner needed?)

2023-01-11 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 11:11:04 AM daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > Isn't ndiswrapper specific to networking/wireless network drivers? > I don't think it just works for any kind of drivers. AS far as I can > tell, it was designed specifically for WiFi cards. I used it for Ethernet (not WiFi

Re: Drivers for old Packard Bell scanner needed?

2023-01-11 Thread davenull
Hello On 2023-01-11 15:39, David Wright wrote: On Wed 11 Jan 2023 at 14:25:39 (+), Ottavio Caruso wrote: Local charity shop sells a desktop scanner for next to nothing. I could buy it and try it but it's very bulky and it's a long walk. So I'd like to have a clue bef

Re: Drivers for old Packard Bell scanner needed?

2023-01-11 Thread David Wright
On Wed 11 Jan 2023 at 17:11:04 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > On 2023-01-11 15:39, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 11 Jan 2023 at 14:25:39 (+), Ottavio Caruso wrote: > > > Local charity shop sells a desktop scanner for next to nothing. I > > > could buy

Re: Drivers for old Packard Bell scanner needed?

2023-01-11 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 1/11/23 16:25, Ottavio Caruso wrote: Local charity shop sells a desktop scanner for next to nothing. I could buy it and try it but it's very bulky and it's a long walk. So I'd like to have a clue beforehand if it's supported. The item is a Packard Bell Slimline PB 6142

Re: Drivers for old Packard Bell scanner needed?

2023-01-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Local charity shop sells a desktop scanner for next to nothing. I could buy > it and try it but it's very bulky and it's a long walk. So I'd like to have > a clue beforehand if it's supported. > > The item is a Packard Bell Slimline PB 6

Re: Drivers for old Packard Bell scanner needed?

2023-01-11 Thread David Wright
On Wed 11 Jan 2023 at 14:25:39 (+), Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Local charity shop sells a desktop scanner for next to nothing. I > could buy it and try it but it's very bulky and it's a long walk. So > I'd like to have a clue beforehand if it's supported. > >

Re: Drivers for old Packard Bell scanner needed?

2023-01-11 Thread gene heskett
On 1/11/23 09:26, Ottavio Caruso wrote: Local charity shop sells a desktop scanner for next to nothing. I could buy it and try it but it's very bulky and it's a long walk. So I'd like to have a clue beforehand if it's supported. The item is a Packard Bell Slimline PB 6142

Re: Drucker/Scanner HP ENVY 6020e WLAN damit scannen und Email versenden

2022-04-28 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 09:59:54PM +0200, diverses wrote: > Hallo, > mein USB Drucker ist kaputt gegangen. Da hatte ich z.B. ein Script > geschrieben wo ich nach jeder Seite eine Taste gedrückt haben, dann wurde > die nächste gescannt. Und zum Schluss eine Taste dann wurde daraus ein pdf > gemacht

Drucker/Scanner HP ENVY 6020e WLAN damit scannen und Email versenden

2022-04-28 Thread diverses
Hallo, mein USB Drucker ist kaputt gegangen. Da hatte ich z.B. ein Script geschrieben wo ich nach jeder Seite eine Taste gedrückt haben, dann wurde die nächste gescannt. Und zum Schluss eine Taste dann wurde daraus ein pdf gemacht und per Email versandt. Auf die Schnelle habe ich nun ein HP EN

Drucker/Scanner HP ENVY 6020e WLAN damit scannen und Email versenden

2022-04-28 Thread debiangerman
Hallo, mein USB Drucker ist kaputt gegangen. Da hatte ich z.B. ein Script geschrieben wo ich nach jeder Seite eine Taste gedrückt haben, dann wurde die nächste gescannt. Und zum Schluss eine Taste dann wurde daraus ein pdf gemacht und per Email versandt. Auf die Schnelle habe ich nun ein HP EN

Drucker/Scanner HP ENVY 6020e WLAN damit scannen und Email versenden

2022-04-28 Thread diverses
Hallo, mein USB Drucker ist kaputt gegangen. Da hatte ich z.B. ein Script geschrieben wo ich nach jeder Seite eine Taste gedrückt haben, dann wurde die nächste gescannt. Und zum Schluss eine Taste dann wurde daraus ein pdf gemacht und per Email versandt. Auf die Schnelle habe ich nun ein HP EN

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-24 Thread Joe
eting cards, etc. > And also to occasionally satisfy the demand of a company or other > institution, for some business-related or legal matter. > > After some thought, I am leaning toward just getting another > stationary flatbed scanner only, rather than a multi-function device > or

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-24 Thread Default User
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:27 AM Russell wrote: > > Brian wrote: > > > As with all of these asking for recommendations type questions, there > > is little detail provided. For example, do you want a standalone scanner > > or would an MFD suit? > > > >

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-22 Thread Russell
Brian wrote: > As with all of these asking for recommendations type questions, there > is little detail provided. For example, do you want a standalone scanner > or would an MFD suit? > > sane-airscan supports all modern MFDs. Shopping online would allow you > to submit you

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-19 Thread Brian
vid-19 or its mutations. > > Decisions, decisions . . . As with all of these asking for recommendations type questions, there is little detail provided. For example, do you want a standalone scanner or would an MFD suit? sane-airscan supports all modern MFDs. Shopping online would allow

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-19 Thread Default User
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 09:12 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 08:48:12AM +0200, john doe wrote: > >You could choose a scanner that is 'complete'ly supported from the Sane > >(1) project > > > >1) www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#SCANNERS

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 08:48:12AM +0200, john doe wrote: You could choose a scanner that is 'complete'ly supported from the Sane (1) project 1) www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#SCANNERS Excellent advice. For this reason I recently bought a 2nd-hand Canon LiDE 25 and I'm

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-19 Thread Brian
on the machine but you cannot use them. > > I tried to use xsane but that does not know the scanner. My advice would be to read here: https://github.com/alexpevzner/sane-airscan sane-airscan is shipped on bullseye and in backports on buster. ipp-usb is the default on bullseye (see its R

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-19 Thread Klaus Jantzen
On 4/18/21 9:57 PM, Default User wrote: Hi! It may be time for a new scanner. For years I have used a Visioneer OneTouch 7100 usb flatbed scanner on various x86 computers running various versions of Debian and simple-scan. Currently: Debian Unstable (updated, of course) Linux 5.10.0-6-amd64

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-18 Thread deloptes
Gregory Seidman wrote: > It's a cheap workhorse. I haven't tried it with Linux but it doesn't > require any special software or drivers on macOS, which makes me think it > is entirely open standard. and how do you operate it on mac? and why you are posting when you are not sure it works under lin

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-18 Thread john doe
On 4/18/2021 9:57 PM, Default User wrote: Hi! It may be time for a new scanner. For years I have used a Visioneer OneTouch 7100 usb flatbed scanner on various x86 computers running various versions of Debian and simple-scan. Currently: Debian Unstable (updated, of course) Linux 5.10.0-6-amd64

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-18 Thread Gregory Seidman
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/scanners/photo-scanner/canoscan-lide-110 It's a cheap workhorse. I haven't tried it with Linux but it doesn't require any special software or drivers on macOS, which makes me think it is entirely open standard. --

scanner recommendation

2021-04-18 Thread Default User
Hi! It may be time for a new scanner. For years I have used a Visioneer OneTouch 7100 usb flatbed scanner on various x86 computers running various versions of Debian and simple-scan. Currently: Debian Unstable (updated, of course) Linux 5.10.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.28-1 (2021-04-09) x86_64

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I tried a freshly-formatted 16GB stick, and the document scanned > successfully. The PDF is just shy of 40MB for 360 pages. The Most likely the document is first scanned to a set of separate uncompressed pages (maybe kept in separate files) and only converted to a PDF at the end, hence the nee

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-03 Thread Charlie Gibbs
sed. Would you be able > to try an external hard drive connected via a USB adapter? I tried a freshly-formatted 16GB stick, and the document scanned successfully. The PDF is just shy of 40MB for 360 pages. The scanner was hiccuping a lot toward the end, though - I suspect that its algorithms

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 Apr 2021 at 10:00:53 -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: [...] > I realize that this has turned into a review of the > scanner, but I've gotten so far into it that I might > as well see it through to the end. For now, connection > to a computer is merely something it would

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-03 Thread John Boxall
On 2021-04-03 1:00 p.m., Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2021-04-02 10:56 a.m., Charlie Gibbs wrote: the error message.  I forget the exact wording, but it was pretty specific about the USB device being full, as opposed to some sort of internal memory overflow. Charlie, It is also a possibility that y

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-03 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 2021-04-02 10:56 a.m., Charlie Gibbs wrote: Emboldened by this, I went into the advanced options and turned on "Continuous scan", then dropped in the first part of a 300-page manual.  Once the sheets were scanned, the scanner asked me whether I had more; I put in the next bundle

Re: How I scan, was Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-02 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Mar 2021 at 17:05:57 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] > The option I favor is that the scan is controlled by your own computer, > but you can trigger new scans by hitting buttons on the scanner > (i.e. the button-presses get sent to your computer who then decides > wh

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-02 Thread Brian
-user. Have you > > > seen all the replies to your post that await you there? > > > > Yes, I have.  I just haven't had time to act on them.  I did download > > a driver from the Brother site but it had no effect.  I suspect there's > > something I'll

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-02 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
I did download a driver from the Brother site but it had no effect.  I suspect there's something I'll have to do with xsane to get it to find the scanner. I've poked that driver a bit and it looks like only USB-connection is well supported, and there is no "Scan from your Computer

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-01 Thread Charlie Gibbs
ut it had no effect. I suspect there's something I'll have to do with xsane to get it to find the scanner. (And then I'll have to go through it again with my wife's Macbook.) Meanwhile I tried setting it up to use sftp, but I haven't managed to get the authentication worked

Re: How I scan, was Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-04-01 Thread David Pottage
On 2021-03-31 22:05, Stefan Monnier wrote: Scanning the output to a server just seems plain obvious to me. What's the downside? It has its advantages, indeed. On the downsides: - the scanner usually has a very limited UI, making it difficult/inconvenient (if at all possible) to contro

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-31 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 19:24:36 -0700 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I just got a Brother ADS-2700W sheet-fed scanner and am trying > to access it from xsane. I've done a lot of flatbed scanning, > first with an HP 3970, and lately with an Epson WF-2650 all-in-one, > but I have a lot of o

Re: How I scan, was Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Scanning the output to a server just seems plain obvious to me. > What's the downside? It has its advantages, indeed. On the downsides: - the scanner usually has a very limited UI, making it difficult/inconvenient (if at all possible) to control and select the scanning option

How I scan, was Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-31 Thread David Wright
On Wed 31 Mar 2021 at 07:18:14 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > The one way I did manage to get the scanner to work was to a > > USB flash drive. It quickly sucked in a handful of sheets, > > scanned both sides, and wrote them to a file on the stick. >

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-31 Thread ghe2001
ere is an entry for > your scanner. In my case with a brother scanner I had to manually add it, as > the brother packages installation is missing this. Yeah.  I had a similar problem getting xsane to recognize my Fujitsu ScanSnap 1300.  I searched the web on model number and found a deta

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-31 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 31. März 2021, 14:23:31 CEST schrieb Eduardo M KALINOWSKI: Hi, please check in /lib/udev/rules.d/*-libsane1.rules if there is an entry for your scanner. In my case with a brother scanner I had to manually add it, as the brother packages installation is missing this. Good luck

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Mar 2021 at 09:23:31 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 30/03/2021 23:24, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > The one way I did manage to get the scanner to work was to a > > USB flash drive.  It quickly sucked in a handful of sheets, > > scanned both sides, and wrote

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-31 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 30/03/2021 23:24, Charlie Gibbs wrote: The one way I did manage to get the scanner to work was to a USB flash drive.  It quickly sucked in a handful of sheets, scanned both sides, and wrote them to a file on the stick. If all else fails, I can work with it that way.  But I'd really li

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-31 Thread Dan Ritter
ither") xsane? In office environments, with shared resources, this is often preferable. Having the scanner drop everything into a samba-shared filesystem, for example... -dsr-

Re: xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-30 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 31.03.2021 07:24, Charlie Gibbs wrote: If anyone has gotten one of these newfangled machines to work as a slave, rather than a master, please share your secrets. aTdHvAaNnKcSe... Have you tried to install a sane backend driver coming as a .deb package from Brother website? https://support

xsane can't see Brother ADS-2700W scanner

2021-03-30 Thread Charlie Gibbs
I just got a Brother ADS-2700W sheet-fed scanner and am trying to access it from xsane. I've done a lot of flatbed scanning, first with an HP 3970, and lately with an Epson WF-2650 all-in-one, but I have a lot of old manuals I want to scan and upload to Bitsavers, and a sheet feeder will

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-08 Thread Dan Ritter
John Boxall wrote: > On 2021-03-07 12:47 p.m., Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 17:34:59 + > > Brian wrote: > > > > Hello Brian, > > > > > put it there because I tend to forget changes I make in /etc! In this > > > > You're using a computer; you don't /need/ to remember those chan

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-07 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 13:11:26 -0500 John Boxall wrote: Hello John, >Brad, I agree 100%..unfortunately, like my memory, I use selective >action.sometimes I create one and other times :-) Sadly, Me too. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is /

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-07 Thread Brian
gt; > An Epson Perfection 2480 Photo. An oldie! What you have done is the only way to to export this scanner to the network. Hats off to the SANE project. > So, having read a little further, maybe I could have used the Epson offering > for a driver. I didn't because, well, I hadn'

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-07 Thread John Boxall
On 2021-03-07 12:47 p.m., Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 17:34:59 + Brian wrote: Hello Brian, put it there because I tend to forget changes I make in /etc! In this You're using a computer; you don't /need/ to remember those changes. Use the computer to do it for you. IOW, create

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-07 Thread John Boxall
. I didn't because, well, I hadn't read further and because "it just worked" under Bullseye. I haven't rebuilt the specific system in question to Buster yet, but on my test system with the scanner attached the bug report fix worked fine. -- Regards, John Boxall

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-07 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 17:34:59 + Brian wrote: Hello Brian, >put it there because I tend to forget changes I make in /etc! In this You're using a computer; you don't /need/ to remember those changes. Use the computer to do it for you. IOW, create a text file documenting those system additions

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-07 Thread Brian
On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 17:34:59 +, Brian wrote: John, I forgot to ask before - and forgot again! What device are you using? -- Brian.

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-07 Thread Brian
On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 12:07:30 -0500, John Boxall wrote: > On 2021-03-05 12:04 p.m., Brian wrote: > > > > Thank you, too. In the light of your issue, the Troubleshooting section > > now has a link to the bug report. Hopefully, this will help users. > > > > Brian, in the reference to the bug rep

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-07 Thread John Boxall
On 2021-03-05 12:04 p.m., Brian wrote: Thank you, too. In the light of your issue, the Troubleshooting section now has a link to the bug report. Hopefully, this will help users. Brian, in the reference to the bug report, were you referring to the file: /etc/udev/rules.d/65-libsane.rules Con

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Mar 2021 at 10:28:27 -0500, John Boxall wrote: > On 2021-03-05 6:05 a.m., Brian wrote: > > > > [1} > > > https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork#Sharing_a_USB_Connected_Scanner:_the_Basics > > > > The note on Bug #918358 towards the end of > &g

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-05 Thread John Boxall
On 2021-03-05 6:05 a.m., Brian wrote: [1} https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork#Sharing_a_USB_Connected_Scanner:_the_Basics The note on Bug #918358 towards the end of https://wiki.debian.org/Scanner#perms could help with a solution. Once I looked at the bug report it most certainly

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-05 Thread John Boxall
On 2021-03-05 4:50 a.m., David Pottage wrote: David, Thank you for the detailed instructions. I hope this solves your problem. I struggled with that exact issue a couple of months ago, and I know how frustrating it can be. It should. I will try it later today. The frustration was amplified

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-05 Thread John Boxall
On 2021-03-05 3:38 a.m., Darac Marjal wrote: First of all, you might need to give us some hint as to how it doesn't work? Agreed...bad form...no excuse. "scanimage -L" on the client did not show the scanner whereas on the server it did. I tried from both root and non-root use

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-05 Thread Brian
On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 18:38:09 -0500, John Boxall wrote: > I have been trying for some time to setup a system that will share an > attached scanner over the network. I had hoped to use Buster as it is still > the stable instance of Debian. I have followed everything in [1] but I could &g

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-05 Thread David Pottage
On 2021-03-04 23:38, John Boxall wrote: I have been trying for some time to setup a system that will share an attached scanner over the network. I had hoped to use Buster as it is still the stable instance of Debian. I have followed everything in [1] but I could never get it to work. I then

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-05 Thread Darac Marjal
On 04/03/2021 23:38, John Boxall wrote: > I have been trying for some time to setup a system that will share an > attached scanner over the network. I had hoped to use Buster as it is > still the stable instance of Debian. I have followed everything in [1] > but I could never get i

Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

2021-03-04 Thread John Boxall
I have been trying for some time to setup a system that will share an attached scanner over the network. I had hoped to use Buster as it is still the stable instance of Debian. I have followed everything in [1] but I could never get it to work. I then tried Bullseye and it worked right away

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-08-07 Thread Nicolas George
George Shuklin (12020-08-07): > > scanimage -d "hpaio:/net/deskjet_3050a_j611_series?ip=10.0.1.155" > > xsane "hpaio:/net/deskjet_3050a_j611_series?ip=10.0.1.155" > > > > Where do I write this URL so that tools find it without having to tell > > them each time? > > > > Thanks. > > > I've just ye

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-08-07 Thread George Shuklin
is URL so that tools find it without having to tell them each time? Thanks. I've just yesterday got a partial success by just adding this into /etc/sane.d/saned.conf tcp 192.168.9.114 After that scanimage just works. (that was our office scanner). I was able to scan from normal position but wasn't able to use feeder.

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-29 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 07:28:21PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 29 Jul 2020 at 12:07:08 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] can read C. > > Reviewing a patch for a non-extisting bug? That's above and beyond the > call of duty :). Always glad to please ;-P Perhaps I should temper my offer.

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-29 Thread Brian
On Wed 29 Jul 2020 at 12:07:08 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:11:22AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > > If the patch is to be rejected, or just ignored, then my time would be > > better invested in an external work-around, it would be less effort than > > forking, an

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-29 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:11:22AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Stefan Monnier (12020-07-28): > > The fact that you sometimes can, seems a clear indication that the > > underlying design still makes it possible [...] > "Significant" is a subjective threshold. Probing is less reliable than > conf

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-29 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12020-07-28): > The fact that you sometimes can, seems a clear indication that the > underlying design still makes it possible: you just need a bit of code > somewhere in SANE so you can specify this URL in a more central place > than on the command line. IOW, a trivial new feature

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-28 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 27 Jul, 2020 at 15:38:57 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > John Boxall (12020-07-27): > > I was having the same problem with the same model mfp. I had to go into the > > HPLIP Toolbox app and setup the printer. Once I did that xsane and simple > > scan could find the sca

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-28 Thread Brian
On Tue 28 Jul 2020 at 09:56:20 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > And the fact that hpaio relies on CUPS is inexcusable. > > I don't see why: first, AFAICT it is still fully functional without > CUPS, and the fact that it tries to make use of CUPS's config > information in order to overcome specifi

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> >> The problem is with scanner that are >> I'm not sure where you found assignment of blame in what I wrote. > "The problem is" is an assignment of technical blame. I was just pointing out in which circumstances the problem appears. No blame was meant an

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-28 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12020-07-27): > >> The problem is with scanner that are > I'm not sure where you found assignment of blame in what I wrote. "The problem is" is an assignment of technical blame. > Apparently not 100% so since it works if you provide the URI explici

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-28 Thread Brian
I predict that SANE will blame hpaio and hpaio will not care that people > do not want to run CUPS needlessly. The assertion is: libsane-hpaio relies on CUPS to detect networked all-in-one scanner-printers. That means that if CUPS is not running, networked devices are usable by spe

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-28 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:49:59PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: [...] > This is a sadly classic pattern in Libre software: "not my problem, it's > the other project doing it wrong". ...and of all the rest of humanity, too. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
Nicolas George [2020-07-27 23:49:59] wrote: > Stefan Monnier (12020-07-27): >> Indeed. And given SANE's design, there shouldn't be much need for it: >> it assumes that either the scanner is local (via a hardware-specific >> driver, hpaio being one of them) or it&#x

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12020-07-27): > Indeed. And given SANE's design, there shouldn't be much need for it: > it assumes that either the scanner is local (via a hardware-specific > driver, hpaio being one of them) or it's remotely accessed over the SANE > protocol, in wh

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> It's definitely possible with SANE. But apparently not with `hpaio`. > I insist: it is not possible with SANE to specify a list of extra > scanners. Indeed. And given SANE's design, there shouldn't be much need for it: it assumes that either the scanner is loc

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Jul 2020 at 15:09:52 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > At high risk of hyjacking the thread, ... You have driven a bulldozer through it. Please go away, think about what you want to say and devise a new post to express your particular issue. And don't do it again. You should know better and

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/sane > > > > I did, and as expected it does not work, because > > > > "hpaio:/net/deskjet_3050a_j611_series?ip=10.0.1.155" > > > > looks nothing like the provided examples: > > > > 192.168.0.15 >

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Brian
d it does not work, because > > "hpaio:/net/deskjet_3050a_j611_series?ip=10.0.1.155" > > looks nothing like the provided examples: > > 192.168.0.15 > ::1 > localhost > scan-server.office.lan > > net.conf is for scanner shared with SANE's protocol

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Jul 2020 at 19:12:10 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Brian (12020-07-27): > > Ok, libsane-hpaio requires libcups.so.2. That's nowhere near requiring > > CUPS, in particular cups-daemon. The printing system is not involved > > with scanning. > > This is the last time I grace you with a re

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Siard
Nicolas George: > Siard (12020-07-27): > > It looks simple to me, or am I missing something? > > Does it add the scanner in Gimp's scanner menu? Ah, I guess I see what I was missing.

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Nicolas George (12020-07-27): > Well, in between explaining why all the answers I got do not match the > question, I RTFS, and it seems indeed it is not possible with SANE. What > stupid design. > > As for the hpaio backend, it relies on CUPS to find networked printers, > but CUPS will not be alwa

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Siard (12020-07-27): > It looks simple to me, or am I missing something? Does it add the scanner in Gimp's scanner menu? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Siard
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:58:44 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > This may be an obvious thing, but I cannot find the answer. > > I can scan with: > > scanimage -d "hpaio:/net/deskjet_3050a_j611_series?ip=10.0.1.155" > xsane "hpaio:/net/deskjet_3050a_j611_series?ip=10.0.1.155" > > Where do I write thi

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Brian
SANE. But apparently not with `hpaio`. > > libsane-hpaio is a backend that conforms to the SANE standard. > > On one end, yes. On the other end it talks the HPAIO "standard". > > I was talking about the network protocol. Apparently his scanner is not > connected to a `s

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Brian (12020-07-27): > Ok, libsane-hpaio requires libcups.so.2. That's nowhere near requiring > CUPS, in particular cups-daemon. The printing system is not involved > with scanning. This is the last time I grace you with a reply. As I have told you twice now, unlike you, I have read the source cod

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Jul 2020 at 18:39:45 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Brian (12020-07-27): > > libsane-hpaio needs CUPS to deal with scanners? Imagination is a great > > asset. Sometimes! > > If you do not believe me, just RTFS or use ldd and nm to check. Ok, libsane-hpaio requires libcups.so.2. That's

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Brian (12020-07-27): > libsane-hpaio needs CUPS to deal with scanners? Imagination is a great > asset. Sometimes! If you do not believe me, just RTFS or use ldd and nm to check. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
o the SANE standard. On one end, yes. On the other end it talks the HPAIO "standard". I was talking about the network protocol. Apparently his scanner is not connected to a `saned` daemon (that would talk the SANE protocol) but talks an HPAIO-specific protocol instead. Discovery

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12020-07-27): > It's definitely possible with SANE. But apparently not with `hpaio`. I insist: it is not possible with SANE to specify a list of extra scanners. And since SANE lies between applications and back-ends, it is the correct place to implement it. Regards, -- Nicol

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Jul 2020 at 12:05:15 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Well, in between explaining why all the answers I got do not match the > > question, I RTFS, and it seems indeed it is not possible with SANE. > > It's definitely possible with SANE. But apparently not with `hpaio`. libsane-hpai

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Brian
Well, I am pretty sure I know my situation better than you. >From xsane(1) xsane accesses image acquisition devices through the SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy) interface. The list of available devices depends on installed hardware and configuration. When invoked without an explicit devicenam

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> That's the kind of reason why I don't like using printer's own network >> facilities and prefer to connect them over USB to a local GNU/Linux >> server which can then share them over CUPS&SANE. > There will be no computer close enough to the printer to do the job. Indeed, it's not always a conv

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Brian (12020-07-27): > Scanning with xsane or simple-scan only works by specifying a URI? You > don't think this is an issue, in spite of its not being the experience > of most users? Well, I am pretty sure I know my situation better than you. But if you insist to know: hpaio detects networked sc

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Jul 2020 at 16:15:30 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Brian (12020-07-27): > > > To summarize: I want to tell SANE URLs for network-connected scanners so > > > that they can be presented to the users in GUI dialogs. > > > > Not much chance of that happeni

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12020-07-27): > That's the kind of reason why I don't like using printer's own network > facilities and prefer to connect them over USB to a local GNU/Linux > server which can then share them over CUPS&SANE. There will be no computer close enough to the printer to do the job. And

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
> net.conf is for scanner shared with SANE's protocol. Notice the "hpaio:" > fake URL protocol. That's the kind of reason why I don't like using printer's own network facilities and prefer to connect them over USB to a local GNU/Linux server which can then sha

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
nothing like the provided examples: 192.168.0.15 ::1 localhost scan-server.office.lan net.conf is for scanner shared with SANE's protocol. Notice the "hpaio:" fake URL protocol. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 7/27/20 4:32 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > Georgi Naplatanov (12020-07-27): >> I'm not sure how you share the scanner(s) - with saned or if those are >> some kind of network scanners. > > I do not share the scanner, the scanner shares itself. > > To summari

Re: SANE default scanner

2020-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Brian (12020-07-27): > > To summarize: I want to tell SANE URLs for network-connected scanners so > > that they can be presented to the users in GUI dialogs. > > Not much chance of that happening if SANE cannot see the scanner. Well, if I write scanner "hpaio:/net/deskj

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