s,
- More fun, less insults.
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Le Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 02:08:29PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit :
> On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 00:35 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > 3) Is there a benefit of allowing non-free files to be distributed together
> > with the source of the Debian system ?
>
> Have you considere
take the ~dfsg suffix of the Debian upstream version.
Here is a revised version of the GR proposal (still unsigned to underline that
it is still a draft), that I hope clarifies point 2)
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General resolution: Simplification of licens
people's mental health, or suggest that people who disagree
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Le Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:42:07AM +, MJ Ray a écrit :
> Charles Plessy
H> > Le Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:56:36PM +, MJ Ray a écrit :
> > > Charles Plessy
> > > > According to our social contract, “We promise that the Debian system
> > > > a
Le Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:56:36PM +, MJ Ray a écrit :
> Charles Plessy
>
> > According to our social contract, “We promise that the Debian system and all
> > its components will be free according to [the DFSG].” My understanding of
> > this
> > is that
needed.
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General resolution: Simplification of license and copyright requirements for
the Debian packages.
Motion A:
The Debian binary packages contain an exhaustive summary of the licenses of the
files it contains. This summary also
thew.ath.cx),
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2009/03/msg3.html
Nevertheless, wouldn't it be safer to first resolve this issue, while keeping as
a goal to address the firmware question early in the release cycle?
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Le Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:43:36AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> It seems that devotee does not properly handle it.
Hi all,
at worse, there may be alternatives, like selectricity (.org), which was also
made by a DD.
Unfortunately, it is not packaged…
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> of delegates.
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is the duty of the proposer. I
made some propositions along these lines in the constitutional discussion led
by Matthew. We could also explore other possibilities such as a DPL veto
mechanism. Anyway, the current GR really comes too early. I am not sure it will
make it to the supermajority.
Have a
Le Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:04:31AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> Le Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 03:49:02PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
> > b) Delaying a decision of a Delegate or the DPL [§4.2(2.2)],
> > as well as resolutions against a shortening of discussion/voting
>
evelopers to sponsor the resolution.
That makes an interesting race condition with Bill's overriding GR…
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f it is a point of divergence
between the candidates. Then, if there is interest for such a discussion, I
would like to encourage you to develop your ideas on this subject, especially
on what you can do as a DPL or DPL assistant.
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sor of a resolution may call
for a vote on that resolution and all related amendments." But then, what
kind of vote can be called by the proposers of amendments in A.2.1 ?
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http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny
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d for others it is because our mailboxes explode (by the
way, please stop cross-posting).
I think that starting another GR now will do more harm than good. Maybe the
best opportunity to test if the Project is in the mood for formal reforms is
the next DPL election.
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in order to convey the message that they are unsatisfied ?
(And by the way, for the readers of Debian Planet, I think that Christian voted
7452136, as in "option 5 first, option four second, …, and option 1 last.")
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Le Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 02:52:01PM +, Steve McIntyre a écrit :
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:05:54PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> >Le Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:57:06AM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
> >> With approximately 60 hours remaining, 142 people have voted, out of a
&
Le Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:57:06AM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
> With approximately 60 hours remaining, 142 people have voted, out of a
> potential 1018. This is somewhat of an record for low participation.
Hi all,
I have nothing against a voting period lasting the standard two weeks.
Have a
that your wording is
detrimental to the choice that is the least embarassing for Jörg (or second
least, after "further discussion"), but I accept your decision and will not
discuss further unless invited to do so.
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Le Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:21:16PM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> Here's the draft ballot for the GR. Please note the timescale and reply
> ASAP.
Hi Neil
The vote page has three mutually exclusive texts, with headers named "Choice
1", "Choice 2" and "Choice 3" that respectively cor
bian Account Managers to start the implementation of the changes described on
the debian-devel-announce mailing list (Message-id:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) about "Developer Status".
If there is anything I can do to help to prepare the ballot, please let me know.
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Le Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:09:36AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> Le Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:12:10AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> > Hello Neil, Manoj, and everybody.
> >
> > Thanks Neil for preparing the vote page. I think that there is no need for
> > extra ex
Le Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:12:10AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> Hello Neil, Manoj, and everybody.
>
> Thanks Neil for preparing the vote page. I think that there is no need for
> extra explanation. There is a small mistake however: I am the proposer of the
> GR. Can you c
Hello Neil, Manoj, and everybody.
Thanks Neil for preparing the vote page. I think that there is no need for
extra explanation. There is a small mistake however: I am the proposer of the
GR. Can you correct the page ?
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Le Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 06:36:12AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> ke, 2008-11-19 kello 07:58 +0900, Charles Plessy kirjoitti:
> > Manoj,
> >
> > I completerly agree.
> >
> > How about allowing the Project to release Lenny without changing the DFSG?
>
>
ing
their wireless cards.
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Le Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 09:38:19AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
> On Mon, Nov 17 2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
>
> > the problem is that we were told that voting for your amendment makes
> > it necessary to organise a vote to change the DFSG or the SC… I really
> >
o second vote is organised ?
- What if Peter's option is voted with less than a 3:1 majority ?
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equences even if all options are rejected.
If it can help to cut the story short, I can propose yet another option:
"None of the above. The Project decides nothing. Interpretations of this result
are personal opinions and are not binding to anyone."
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re in main: As usual
ii Do we allow the Release Team to ignore SC violation bugs: As usual
iii What do we do for Lenny: Release
iV Do we modify foundation documents: No
v Do we override foundation documents
h a transitory
period where the firmwares stay in main).
([EMAIL PROTECTED]). In terms of workload for some
developpers, it makes a big difference. I would really prefer hearing their
opinion before voting for a supermajority resolution that may not be applied if
nobody wants to deal with the wo
ay of a general resolution of its developers, asks
> > | the Debian Account Managers to start the implementation of the changes
> > | described on the debian-devel-announce mailing list (Message-id:
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>
> I her
f.
I therefore invite the people who like it to sponsor it by the end of the week.
Past this delay, and unless somebody has a strong opinion against, I will call
for a vote so that we can put an end to the story, heal wounds and move on.
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-
Le Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:04:05AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 09:34:47AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> >
> > I do not think that the only interpretation of a rejected GR is the
> > contrary of its option(s). For instance, people can vote &q
the silent majority and interpret their
votes in one or the other direction.
This said, I still hope that Joerg could send a clarification that what he
presented is not yet an official policy, and that he will follow consensus or
propose changes through a GR. With this we could avoid the current vote
aws his decisions.
- The second best one is to cool down until the end of the discussion period,
and vote this GR as it is.
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Le Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:45:31PM +0100, Frans Pop a écrit :
> I hereby second the proposal quoted below and have no objection to
> Charles Plessy's earlier proposal being dropped (or retracted)
Thanks Frans for the explanation, and thanks again to Peter who showed us a
way to an exit of the cris
ussion called by the GR achieves a result,
since it seems to be where we would still disagree.
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do not
have the appropriate delegation for taking it.
We all have the same goal, making Debian more open, but disagree ont the means.
Let's discuss instead of just checking who has the right to impose his opinion
on the others.
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the two main propositions.
So to cut a long story short, I hope that this GR proposal will be a Rubicon
that nobody is willing to cross, so I do not feel like tweaking it. I am fine
with a status quo while progress is done on the debian-project list.
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Le Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 08:27:40PM +0200, Frans Pop a écrit :
> Charles Plessy wrote:
> > In accordance to the paragraph 4.2.2 of the constition, this
> > suspension takes immediately effect until a procedural vote decides if
> > the supsension is lifted until the
Le Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:36:22PM +0200, Bastian Blank a écrit :
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 09:15:43PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > The Debian Project, by the way of a general resolution of its developpers,
> > decides:
> >
> > - The changes announced the 22nd of
procedures of the Project will be prepared in a
discussion that will be finished by consensus or a general resolution.
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Actually, if the GR road is eventually taken, it can be done through amending
this proposal. This will save time and energy.
will satify the
account managers and the many persons hoping for a change, but this
requires time, exchange, less pressure and an open discussion on which
we can construct the instead of just hoping to amend.
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suspension stays effective until the
results of the GR vote are published).
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Le Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:17:18AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> For those of you who're not aware: the Mozilla Foundation is now forcing
> people who want to use their firefox trademark to display an EULA
Hi Wouter,
haven't we read on planet.debian.org that they changed their minds?
Have a
Le Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:15:42PM +0200, Josip Rodin a écrit :
> >
> > * Infrastructure teams are encouraged to adapt their sizes to their
> > workloads,
> > to ensure that they don't block or slow down the work of other Debian
> > contributors.
Hi Josip and everybody,
I understand that ad
Le Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:07:30AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> Le Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:50:27AM +0900, Paul Wise a écrit :
> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Charles Plessy
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > (building non-free on
hope I made myself a bit clearer. Finally, "Opt-out" is a negative
concept that does not describe so well what I wanted to say. If I could
summarise in a few words, it would be "sharing the responsability
between the package maitainer and the Debian infrastructure teams"
service
managers to opt in or opt out the use of each services by Debian
packages (or preferably groups of them)? If yes, how would you define
the role of the DPL in implusing these changes?
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o do sound team work and do not
touch things they do not understand should be accepted as DD, then "just
doing it" would be the most direct way to fulfill this goal. But I do
not think that rejecting the GR gives a clear message to the people in
charge of this task, since many different re
rking together with DDs, by sharing the spirit of the
fondamental texts, and by never lowering his aims of quality (which does
not mean never making mistakes, this is more a funciton of to the
quantity of work done).
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nd are clueless monthes later about the
reasons for which nothing happened ?
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moves them, the system, on a functionnal point of
view, still works as before... Nothing "Depends:" on the licences.
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modify of course).
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Dear Anthony Towns,
When I sent you a private mail complaining about the ad-hominem style of
one of your posts on -devel, you published it on your blog. Will you do
the same with the private mails sent you as a DPL, if you were elected ?
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