Le Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:21:57AM +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit : > > I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, > so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. > > The text I'm thinking about is currently this: > > | The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are > | not working withing established frameworks of Debian and thus are not > | provided by the project with as much help as might be possible, useful > | or required. > | . > | We thank Joerg Jaspert for exploring ideas on how to involve > | contributors more closely with the project so that they can get both > | recognition and the necessary tools to do their work. > | . > | We realize that the proposal posted to the debian-devel-announce > | mailinglist is not yet finalized and may not have the support of a large > | part of our community. We invite the DAM to further develop his ideas > | in close coordination with other members of the project, and to present > | a new and improved proposal on the project's mailinglists in the future, > | at least two weeks prior to any planned implementation.
Hello Peter, this is a very sensible proposition. I will propose at the end of this mail a compromise, but first let me underline what is the part where I think our opinions still strongly diverge. You wrote in your amended version: "We invite the DAM to further develop his ideas in close coordination with other members of the project, and to present a new and improved proposal on the project's mailinglists in the future. Significant changes should only be implemented after consensus within the project at large has been reached, or when decided by a general resolution." This completely ignores that now there are other proposals, like the ones of Lars and Raphaël, and suggest that the only path we want to explore it the one drafed by Joerg. Do you think we could merge our propositions on a text like the following, that keeps your structure and tone, but contains major changes in its sense? The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are not working withing established frameworks of Debian and thus are not provided by the project with as much help as might be possible, useful or required, nor opportunities to join the project. We thank Joerg Jaspert for exploring ideas on how to involve contributors more closely with and within the project so that they can get both recognition and the necessary tools to do their work. We realize that the proposal posted to the debian-devel-announce mailinglist is not yet finalized and may not have the support of a large part of our community. We invite the DAM and all the contributors to further develop their ideas in close coordination with other members of the project, and to present a new and improved proposal on the project's mailinglists in the future. Significant changes should only be implemented after consensus within the project at large has been reached, or when decided by a general resolution. We could then have add dichotomy on the supension or not of the changes announced by Joerg before the discussion called by the GR achieves a result, since it seems to be where we would still disagree. Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]