Re: Global keybindings in GNOME

2006-08-06 Thread Nigel Tao
> By putting the bindings in the one WM process the idea was to keep a > centrally maintained global binding set. The problem (which I think Alex Gravely originally raised) is that if you want to run a different WM (e.g. running Tomboy on XFCE), then apps have got to roll their own keybindings, ra

Re: Global keybindings in GNOME

2006-08-06 Thread Alex Graveley
I don't see these two as being very different from a user's perpective. Given how long the list in the capplet is today, I already just guess when setting a keybinding there, and rely on the app to show me a conflict. -Alex Havoc Pennington wrote: > Since bindings are a global resource real

Re: Global keybindings in GNOME

2006-08-06 Thread Elijah Newren
Cc'ing Dan and David, because they brought something like this up at GUADEC (in the mini metacity/compiz meeting, I think?) and I thought they had some good ideas for it. I don't remember the details, though... On 8/6/06, Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nigel Tao wrote: > > > > Woul

Re: Global keybindings in GNOME

2006-08-06 Thread Havoc Pennington
Nigel Tao wrote: > > Would it make sense to have a single D-Bus service where tomboy, > deskbar, metacity, etc. (and don't forget our KDE friends) can just > say "notify me on F12", or is that just total crack and should we > just have a traditionally linked libkeybinder instead? metacity can't d

Re: Global keybindings in GNOME (was: Tomboy in Desktop)

2006-08-06 Thread Nigel Tao
> Deskbar-applet has this aswell (same code). I think GNOME needs some API > for registering global keybindings. IIRC someone did some work on > providing an actual UI for user defined keybindings (instead of the > current mess with gconf). Isn't it logical to give apps a way to hook in > to this a

Re: Cancel session shutdown

2006-08-06 Thread Havoc Pennington
Xavier Claessens wrote: > On dim, 2006-08-06 at 09:55 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: >> Xavier Claessens wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm implementing D-Bus support in xchat/xchat-gnome and here is >>> something I want to do: >>> >>> When the X session is closing and xchat has DCC transfers running I wan

Re: Cancel session shutdown

2006-08-06 Thread Havoc Pennington
Shaun McCance wrote: > One really good reason I can think of is that > D-Bus can't yet handle remote X applications. > It would kind of suck for those not to be able > to interact with the session manager. > It should be able to handle them fine. The default configuration doesn't listen on tcp b

Global keybindings in GNOME (was: Tomboy in Desktop)

2006-08-06 Thread Johan Svedberg
* Aug 05 07:18 Matthias Clasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jumping late into this discussion, but I just discovered an area where > tomboy really falls short of our standards for desktop integration, > hotkeys. > > Just like beagle-search, tomboy has its own private sucky way of > defining hotkeys, and

Re: name change for gnome-volume-manager?

2006-08-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 16:03 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > I'd like to change the name of gnome-volume-manager to > gnome-device-manager. > > discuss. Since on my system[1] the gnome-volume-manager capplet seems to manage printers, scanners and USB input devices[2], I'd say that it hardly manag

Re: name change for gnome-volume-manager?

2006-08-06 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:03:51 -0400 > From: Jeffrey Stedfast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Subject: name change for gnome-volume-manager? > > I'd like to change the name of gnome-volume-manager to > gnome-device-manager.

Re: Cancel session shutdown

2006-08-06 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 17:37 +0200, Xavier Claessens wrote: > On dim, 2006-08-06 at 09:55 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > > > Xavier Claessens wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm implementing D-Bus support in xchat/xchat-gnome and here is > > > something I want to do: > > > > > > When the X sessi

Deskbar Applet 2.16 will not feature NewStuffManager

2006-08-06 Thread Nigel Tao
FYI'ing y'all to say that the previously mentioned NewStuffManager will not be part of the upcoming deskbar-applet 2.16. Also, deskbar-applet no longer depends on elementtree, which was added as a dependency during the 2.15 development cycle. However, I hope to see the NSM code back in developmen

Re: Cancel session shutdown

2006-08-06 Thread Xavier Claessens
On dim, 2006-08-06 at 09:55 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > Xavier Claessens wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm implementing D-Bus support in xchat/xchat-gnome and here is > > something I want to do: > > > > When the X session is closing and xchat has DCC transfers running I want > > to be notified a

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-08-06 Thread Ethan Osten
On Jul 19, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Andy Tai wrote: > What is this? Some type of threat? > To date GNOME does not have Mono and GNOME is doing great. > The majority of users do not use Mono and do not want to depend on > Mono. If you have your way, more people will lose their way. Who > have heard an

Re: Cancel session shutdown

2006-08-06 Thread Havoc Pennington
Xavier Claessens wrote: > Hi, > > I'm implementing D-Bus support in xchat/xchat-gnome and here is > something I want to do: > > When the X session is closing and xchat has DCC transfers running I want > to be notified and in some cases cancel the session shutdown. > > I'm sure that's some kind

Re: name change for gnome-volume-manager?

2006-08-06 Thread Luca
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 16:03 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > I'd like to change the name of gnome-volume-manager to > gnome-device-manager. > > discuss. > There is a related bugzilla entry too... http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333496 ___ de

Ask for help to review the gnome-keyring adoption patch to fix bug 344839

2006-08-06 Thread Steven Zhang
Folks, I know vino is a very small project in gnome community, and markmc is the owner, but I can not get feedback from markmc for a long time, and this patch is here for review for long time. Does anyone can give me some hints about how I can get approval, where I can find the maintainer except ma

Dasher CVS Branch

2006-08-06 Thread Phil Cowans
Hi All, Just to let you know that I've just branched Dasher CVS for the GNOME 2.16 release (Dasher 4.2). HEAD will now be used for development of new features which will not appear in a stable version until GNOME 2.18, whereas the gnome-2-16 branch will be used for all further GNOME 2.15 and 2.16

name change for gnome-volume-manager?

2006-08-06 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast
I'd like to change the name of gnome-volume-manager to gnome-device-manager. discuss. -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Novell, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.novell.com ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-08-06 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, David! I already wrote I agree with Lluis that the success of a desktop is driven by a diverse and large set of applications. I've also seen many people say Mono is a nice platfrom to build apps on. I can't judge this due to not being a developer but I have no reason to mis-trust these stateme

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-08-06 Thread Andy Tai
On 7/19/06, David Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As if the question of Mono's inclusion doesn't already fragment GNOME, > those who are opposed to it because it's MS technology or similar, IMHO, > silly reasons (read: not based on technological merit) won't let it in. > Then there are people

Re: Tomboy in Desktop

2006-08-06 Thread Don Scorgie
Hi, On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 22:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: > Also jumping in late but I think I haven't seen a comment about the fact > that Tomboy does not have any Help Documentation. There is already a discussion about getting the documentation ready on the doc-list: http://mail.gnome.org/arc

Re: Tomboy in Desktop

2006-08-06 Thread Baptiste Mille-Mathias
On 8/6/06, Alex Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 22:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: > > Also please do not replace stickynotes with Tomboy. They are different > > applications. I use sticky notes like you use the normal sticky notes. > > Just to write something I should rememb

Re: Cancel session shutdown

2006-08-06 Thread Travis Watkins
On 8/6/06, Xavier Claessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When the X session is closing and xchat has DCC transfers running I want > to be notified and in some cases cancel the session shutdown. I'm pretty sure gedit can do this but I don't think it uses dbus. Perhaps you could look in their code?

Cancel session shutdown

2006-08-06 Thread Xavier Claessens
Hi, I'm implementing D-Bus support in xchat/xchat-gnome and here is something I want to do: When the X session is closing and xchat has DCC transfers running I want to be notified and in some cases cancel the session shutdown. I'm sure that's some kind of thing possible with some D-Bus methods/s