Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-10 Thread Andreas Pieber
Guillaume's approach sounds reasonable to me; making this clear should not disturb development on master too much --> +1 On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:11, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > I think it would make sense to create this branch and release it after 3.0 > so that we can have a good overview of wha

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-10 Thread Guillaume Nodet
I think it would make sense to create this branch and release it after 3.0 so that we can have a good overview of what we can backport into that branch. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 00:34, Andreas Pieber wrote: > TBH I'm +/-0; It seams to me that we've discussed that topic already for 1 > million tim

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-10 Thread Andreas Pieber
TBH I'm +/-0; It seams to me that we've discussed that topic already for 1 million times or so :-) So, if we cant get out 3.0 fast we're left with no other options than to go for 2.3; still I'm afraid this will lead to the problem that ppl will rather implement features for 2.3 instead of 3.0 becau

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-10 Thread Achim Nierbeck
Hi all, a big +1 from me for a 2.3 Branch, I can see the following additional improvements for the 2.3 branch while waiting for 3.0 line :) Upgrade to pax-web 1.1.x line since the 1.0.x line only does get attention for critical bugfixes :) Also add the web shell comands to the 2.3 line would be h

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi David, The fact is that we increased the scope between our first discussion about Karaf 3.0 and the current roadmap. For instance, we decided to upgrade Karaf 3.0 to new version of Pax Web, change the shell commands, included some required cleanup and refactoring, upgrade to a new OSGi re

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread David Jencks
IIRC during the summer we all agreed that 3.0 would be released for sure, certainly, without doubt, by the end of the summer, and everyone would enthusiastically help get it out. I don't think that really happened. I'd prefer that more effort go into releasing 3.0 with a finite set of changes

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Freeman Fang
+1 for 2.3.x Karaf branch and drop jdk 1.5 support. Freeman On 2011-11-10, at 上午7:28, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Makes sense, let's drop jdk 5 then. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 15:26, Jamie G. wrote: It occurs more often that our desired dependencies require JDK 6. We've taken great care on the 2

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Makes sense, let's drop jdk 5 then. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 15:26, Jamie G. wrote: > It occurs more often that our desired dependencies require JDK 6. > We've taken great care on the 2.1.x and 2.2.x lines to ensure JDK 5 > compatibility, if we drop this requirement on 2.3.x branch then it > opens

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Agree, I don't think it's required to maintain the JDK 1.5 on Karaf 2.3.x. Regards JB On 11/10/2011 12:26 AM, Jamie G. wrote: It occurs more often that our desired dependencies require JDK 6. We've taken great care on the 2.1.x and 2.2.x lines to ensure JDK 5 compatibility, if we drop this requ

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Jamie G.
It occurs more often that our desired dependencies require JDK 6. We've taken great care on the 2.1.x and 2.2.x lines to ensure JDK 5 compatibility, if we drop this requirement on 2.3.x branch then it opens more opportunities to make things easier in transition to the Karaf 3.0 (JDK 6 minimum) code

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Not sure if forcing 1.6 is really required. Does that bring any value ? Another way is does that even change anything for us ? On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 15:16, Jamie G. wrote: > The concept of a 2.3.x branch to bridge the differences between 2.2.x > and the to be 3.0.0 makes sense from the point

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Karaf 2.3.x could stop the JDK 1.5 compatibility. Regards JB On 11/10/2011 12:16 AM, Jamie G. wrote: The concept of a 2.3.x branch to bridge the differences between 2.2.x and the to be 3.0.0 makes sense from the point of view of providing our user base an easier transition. I would like to kno

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Jamie G.
The concept of a 2.3.x branch to bridge the differences between 2.2.x and the to be 3.0.0 makes sense from the point of view of providing our user base an easier transition. I would like to know if we intend to keep JDK 1.5 compatibility on 2.3.x or if we'll have to enforce an update to JDK 1.6?

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Guillaume Nodet
I think as the number of compatibility breaking stuff grows in the 3.x branch, the more welcomed a 2.3 release will be. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 14:54, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi all, > > we started to perform a bunch of changes on the Karaf trunk (future Karaf > 3.0 branch): refactoring on

[PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi all, we started to perform a bunch of changes on the Karaf trunk (future Karaf 3.0 branch): refactoring on the commands to introduce the sub-shell, update to Pax Web 2.0 and Jetty 8, renaming on the commands, new OSGi release, new Aries version, etc. It means a huge change for the users.