Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-27 Thread Mark Hobson
Looks good in general. I found it a little confusing how the info was split across the two pages (Home and All Proposals). How about changing the All Proposals page to encapsulate all proposal information in one table? It would look similar to the work-in-progress table on Home, but it could

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 27 Jun 07, at 6:15 AM 27 Jun 07, Mark Hobson wrote: Looks good in general. I found it a little confusing how the info was split across the two pages (Home and All Proposals). How about changing the All Proposals page to encapsulate all proposal information in one table? It would look

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-27 Thread Mark Hobson
On 27/06/07, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Jun 07, at 6:15 AM 27 Jun 07, Mark Hobson wrote: Looks good in general. I found it a little confusing how the info was split across the two pages (Home and All Proposals). How about changing the All Proposals page to encapsulate all

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 27 Jun 07, at 7:15 AM 27 Jun 07, Mark Hobson wrote: On 27/06/07, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Jun 07, at 6:15 AM 27 Jun 07, Mark Hobson wrote: Looks good in general. I found it a little confusing how the info was split across the two pages (Home and All Proposals).

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-27 Thread Mark Hobson
On 27/06/07, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I like having a listing of the work in progress on the main page so that you don't have to click to another page to see the work in progress. That said I like them all on one page, but I would like to extract the current ongoing work

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 27 Jun 07, at 8:55 AM 27 Jun 07, Mark Hobson wrote: On 27/06/07, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I like having a listing of the work in progress on the main page so that you don't have to click to another page to see the work in progress. That said I like them all on one

RE: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-27 Thread Brian E. Fox
I'm coming into the thread late so I see lots of updates already. I second the suggestion that having two states called Approved Proposal(s) is a little confusing. I think that the move to a Completed Proposals can be used to combine the Completed and Approved Proposals because there doesn't seem

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Jesse McConnell
On 6/26/07, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Jun 07, at 7:11 PM 25 Jun 07, John Casey wrote: I like this approach, and I think it's just a slightly more detailed version of what some of us are already trying to do when we put together major new pieces for Maven. I agree with

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 26 Jun 07, at 6:46 AM 26 Jun 07, Jesse McConnell wrote: On 6/26/07, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Jun 07, at 7:11 PM 25 Jun 07, John Casey wrote: I like this approach, and I think it's just a slightly more detailed version of what some of us are already trying to do

RE: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Rollo, Dan
Looking over the current page, I see one mention of the Embedder. I'm unclear whether there are plans to release any embedder updates in the 2.0.* line. From the The Embedder for all client use in 2.1, I'm also unsure if the Embedder is to be released in the 2.1 line either. We're currently using

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Patrick Schneider
A few things: 1. Can I get edit access? My username is 'pschneider'. 2. Are there any thoughts re: how pages are parented? I noticed that only the 'Toolchains' proposal is parented by 'All Proposals'. Most of the rest seem to be under 'Maven 2.1 Design Documents'. It would be nice to see,

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 26 Jun 07, at 1:20 PM 26 Jun 07, Patrick Schneider wrote: A few things: 1. Can I get edit access? My username is 'pschneider'. Sure. I'll find all the user names and add them to the group. 2. Are there any thoughts re: how pages are parented? I noticed that only the 'Toolchains'

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Patrick Schneider
On 6/26/07, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Jun 07, at 1:20 PM 26 Jun 07, Patrick Schneider wrote: A few things: 1. Can I get edit access? My username is 'pschneider'. Sure. I'll find all the user names and add them to the group. 2. Are there any thoughts re: how pages

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Milos Kleint
The proposal looks generally ok to me. I'll try to follow it when working on Toolchains. I'm sure I'll have questions on the way. more regarding api changes below. On 6/26/07, John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this approach, and I think it's just a slightly more detailed version of

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 26 Jun 07, at 2:05 PM 26 Jun 07, Patrick Schneider wrote: Ok, so the new features start on trunk but the new feature is a branch of trunk. The point being feature additions don't destabilize the trunk. The series of branches associated with issues also provides a clear path of what

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Jason, Sounds very good to me. You're right that making things surface is a good thing. It requires more discipline but Maven being so successful and so many people relying on it now makes it a necessity I think to better control its evolution. Now all you need is a good wiki that

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-26 Thread Eric Redmond
Not that this is really the thread for it, but +1 on trying out xwiki! Namely because Vincent is an insider (always nice to have) and I never really liked Confluence much anyway. Eric Not an XWiki Developer ;-) On 6/26/07, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jason, Sounds very good to

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-25 Thread Barrie Treloar
Looks good. Basically it revolves around making sure things are documented in the Wiki and providing a clear record of the evolution of the project that anyone can follow at any point in time. So far from perfect but I think a good starting point and I would like to field feedback so I can

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-25 Thread Eric Redmond
I kind of like the idea of this process applying to any API change - even if it's just a bug fix, not necessarily a feature request. It would also be nice to either have the Work articles under Work in Progress themselves contain contain the related JIRA issues (since there could be more than

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-25 Thread John Casey
I like this approach, and I think it's just a slightly more detailed version of what some of us are already trying to do when we put together major new pieces for Maven. I agree with Eric that any API or behavioral change should probably follow this process, basically anything that could change

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 25 Jun 07, at 6:55 PM 25 Jun 07, Barrie Treloar wrote: Looks good. Basically it revolves around making sure things are documented in the Wiki and providing a clear record of the evolution of the project that anyone can follow at any point in time. So far from perfect but I think a good

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 25 Jun 07, at 6:59 PM 25 Jun 07, Eric Redmond wrote: I kind of like the idea of this process applying to any API change - even if it's just a bug fix, not necessarily a feature request. It would also be nice to either have the Work articles under Work in Progress themselves contain

Re: Quick sketch of the dev process

2007-06-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 25 Jun 07, at 7:11 PM 25 Jun 07, John Casey wrote: I like this approach, and I think it's just a slightly more detailed version of what some of us are already trying to do when we put together major new pieces for Maven. I agree with Eric that any API or behavioral change should