Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-04-28 Thread Niels Basjes
Hi, A few weeks ago at the Dataworks/Hadoop Summit in Munich I discussed the upcoming docker support in Yarn (Hadoop 3.0) and I mentioned Apache Myriad as a seemingly related project. Someone then stated that Myriad is a dead project and I should avoid it. Out of curiosity to check the validity o

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-04-28 Thread Darin Johnson
I think that's an accurate assessment, as much as I'd like to say otherwise. I'd suggest we start a vote to retire. Darin On Apr 28, 2017 5:52 AM, "Niels Basjes" wrote: Hi, A few weeks ago at the Dataworks/Hadoop Summit in Munich I discussed the upcoming docker support in Yarn (Hadoop 3.0) an

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-04-28 Thread Klaus Ma
+1 on retire > On 28 Apr 2017, at 20:33, Darin Johnson wrote: > > I think that's an accurate assessment, as much as I'd like to say otherwise. > > I'd suggest we start a vote to retire. > > Darin > > On Apr 28, 2017 5:52 AM, "Niels Basjes" wrote: > > Hi, > > A few weeks ago at the Datawork

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-04-28 Thread Adam Bordelon
Maybe not dead, but it's in a coma, and I'm not sure if/when it'll wake up again. I'm not opposed to retiring, except that moving off of Apache infra sounds like work. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 5:46 AM, Klaus Ma wrote: > +1 on retire > > > On 28 Apr 2017, at 20:33, Darin Johnson wrote: > > > > I

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-05-03 Thread Will Ochandarena
ement From: Adam Bordelon Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 8:40:30 PM To: dev@myriad.incubator.apache.org Cc: dan...@apache.org; tdunn...@apache.org; lrese...@apache.org; b...@apache.org Subject: Re: Is Apache Myriad dead? Maybe not dead, but it's in a coma, a

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-05-05 Thread Darin Johnson
elon > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 8:40:30 PM > To: dev@myriad.incubator.apache.org > Cc: dan...@apache.org; tdunn...@apache.org; lrese...@apache.org; > b...@apache.org > Subject: Re: Is Apache Myriad dead? > > Maybe not dead, but it's in a coma, and I'm not sure if/whe

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-03 Thread Darin Johnson
dan...@apache.org; tdunn...@apache.org; lrese...@apache.org; b...@apache.org Subject: Re: Is Apache Myriad dead? Maybe not dead, but it's in a coma, and I'm not sure if/when it'll wake up again. I'm not opposed to retiring, except that moving off of Apache infra sounds like wor

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-05 Thread Will Ochandarena
From: Darin Johnson Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 1:07:48 PM To: Dev Cc: lrese...@apache.org; tdunn...@apache.org; dan...@apache.org; b...@apache.org; Will Ochandarena Subject: Re: Is Apache Myriad dead? Will, any update we've got an Apache review and I'm planning to recommen

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-05 Thread Swapnil Daingade
ther mentors can comment on what the next steps would be. > > > Will > > > > From: Darin Johnson > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 1:07:48 PM > To: Dev > Cc: lrese...@apache.org; tdunn...@apache.org; dan...@apache.org; > b...@apache.org

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-05 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Swapnil Daingade < swapnil.daing...@gmail.com> wrote: > In that case I suggest we not retire > > >> "Darin - yes we've done more planning internally, and we do plan on > having some engineers spend some time on this project, doing some (minor) > maintenance for our

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-05 Thread Darin Johnson
Swapnil, the reasons Ted mentioned are precisely the reasons I've stopped committing to Myriad (we're running a fork). Apache is more overhead than this project needs and actually hinders the project from developing to a maturity level where a community can form. Darin On Jun 5, 2017 5:53 PM, "

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-05 Thread Swapnil Daingade
>> The problem is that there is essentially no real community that is happening. retiring doesn't help that >> None of the engineers previously working on this will be working on this now. And that sort of situation isn't going to change. Events at MapR contributed to this situation. MapR scaled

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-05 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:56 AM, Swapnil Daingade < swapnil.daing...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The problem is that there is essentially no real community that is > happening. > > retiring doesn't help that > The core problem here is lack of a viable PMC. A PMC has to have 3 active members at any giv

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-07 Thread Darin Johnson
Can you name the 3-5 active PMC members who will vet the next release? I'm willing to vet next release and contribute additional work we did to Myriad but only if I get a solid commitment from others. Otherwise I'm happy to retire and let mapr host their fork. On Jun 6, 2017 2:29 AM, "Ted Dunnin

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-07 Thread Adam Bordelon
I can vet and vote too, but I don't have a lot of time these days to run a release myself. On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 4:33 AM, Darin Johnson wrote: > Can you name the 3-5 active PMC members who will vet the next release? > > I'm willing to vet next release and contribute additional work we did to >

Fwd: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-07 Thread Swapnil Daingade
I think I ended up replying only to Ted last night. -- Forwarded message -- From: Swapnil Daingade Date: Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:07 AM Subject: Re: Is Apache Myriad dead? To: Ted Dunning Please see inline On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > > On T

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

2017-06-07 Thread Santosh Marella
st night. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Swapnil Daingade > Date: Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:07 AM > Subject: Re: Is Apache Myriad dead? > To: Ted Dunning > > > Please see inline > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Ted Dunning > wrote: > > > >