ned quite often)
* preview features are not that welcomed in default bundle IMHO - mainly
embed case
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features in
their own jar, even if they are enabled by reflection or something a bit
more indirect.
Wdyt?
Immediate issue with graal native-image for example
is org.apache.tomcat.util.net.openssl.panama.OpenSSLContext which relies on
Arena and friends which are not in java 17 for ex.
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Thanks Mark.
+1 then, tested on several embed servers which use the standard artifacts
(Yupiik Fusion, Apache Meecrowave apps, ...).
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Hi Christopher,
Is it possible to close the staging repo please (I get a 404)?
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+1 (non binding), mainly tested downstream tomcat embedded cases (but using
plain artifacts not embed ones).
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Proposed that as well, not yet sure since means there is no more cetifiable
version but let see.
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Le ven. 29 mars 2024 à 13:41, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit :
> Romain,
>
> On 3/29/24 03:18, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Side note: what I meant about ASF is that there was a help habit between
> > communities. I know it got "broken
13, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit :
> Romain,
>
> On 3/27/24 15:29, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > FYI here is the diff between servlet 5 and 6 API jars:
> >
> > New API: - jakarta.servlet.ServletConnection Dele
e - didn't have time to check yet - is if the new API
are used directly from jakarta package (if so it would fail running with
servlet 5 api else it will run smoothly and could be a win-win?).
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Ok, let see if we can maybe have an exceptional certification status with
servlet 6 as an exception but I doubt (but would make everyone happy) :(
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Hi Chris,
Le mer. 27 mars 2024 à 13:13, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit :
> Romain,
>
> On 3/27/24 06:13, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Le mer. 27 mars 2024 à 10:58, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> >
> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 9:
Le mer. 27 mars 2024 à 10:58, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 9:49 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Checkout out TomEE's notifications I realized Tomcat is in a weirdish
> > situation where Tomcat 9 is Servlet
rest in supporting 10.0.x
is likely wrong from a community standpoint and at least TomEE would be
interested in dropping its fork of Tomcat 10 for that reason.
Any way we get back a 10.0 or a 10.1 runnable with Servlet 5.0 API (guess
it would be better for everyone)?
Romain Manni-Bucau
@
gnature TCK.
Wdyt?
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Chris, added some comments inline.
Le mer. 20 mars 2024 à 19:41, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit :
> Romain,
>
> On 3/20/24 13:34, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Thread dumps being dump of threads - literally os threads - and virtual
> > t
Le mer. 20 mars 2024 à 18:43, Rainer Jung a
écrit :
> Am 20.03.24 um 18:34 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > Thread dumps being dump of threads - literally os threads - and virtual
> > threads not being threads at all - they are runnables in a dedicate
attern for ex.
But if you come from a plain sync application it can be very interesting if
it stays compatible and you don't need to add throttling to control the
memory - often in the old style you throttle with the number of threads,
now you need a semaphore or alike.
Will not be a free lunch
l for performance related work but not for hanging
investigation (for good since it enables a better scalability in general)
so guess it is mainly a habit switch in terms of tools, no?
Hope it makes sense.
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+1 (non-binding), tested on several apps with "AsfEE" stack and Yupiik
Fusion, no issue so far.
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Le lun. 26 févr. 2024 à 13:16, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 4:39 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sounds very good overall but would be great to not do it at the cost to
> > break tomcat IDE support maybe - c
make
contributions easy ;).
Indeed just my 2cts feedback.
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to another module until it is
final wouldnt be bad IMHO, in particular while no LTS supports the required
code and it still moves, no?
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Whole handler = message -> {
};
Assert.assertEquals(Object.class, Util.getMessageType(handler));
}
So guess we can play the status-quo.
Side note: seems ide-intellij ant task got broken with java 22 API usage of
the source.
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but makes
it more concrete.
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x the root cause of your issue but a side effect.
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Think it had been done since the report seems to concern v8/v9, this is why
from my window sonatype missed a data in their db and it triggers false
positives for any recent tomcat build.
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more than an actual issue or did I miss something?
Should we send a mail to ossin...@sonatype.org to get it fixed?
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+1, thanks for the quick fix
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Thanks a lot Mark. In the mean time using tomcat-jdbc v10.1.13 works as a
workaround (but needs to take care of transitive deps).
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PS: if it eases the analyzis I guess it is an autoimport/refactor issue:
https://github.com/apache/tomcat/commit/a5821ce8ec4626b615a71c9920279a3066735b11#diff-6ec6f1cfd5466f7bef8987d0931a9847d1691c5a81385e4ffd6a7fdb6ddb6cecL371
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Hi,
in 10.1.14 PooledConnection is a class but it is used to create a jvm
proxy (org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.ConnectionPool#getProxyConstructor) so
it does not work, is it a typo?
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char set
more than the algo?
Anyway while it does not add much code a perf boost is always good so +1
too for the reasons you mentionned.
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Ok, and doing a tomcat-catalina-xxx which wouldnt target spec explicitly,
would more be a http server reusable is not an option too I guess?
So for the record I guess the best option is to switch
to SimpleInstanceManager automatically.
Thanks for the clarification Mark.
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Le mer. 12 juil. 2023 à 17:53, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit :
> Romain,
>
> On 7/11/23 08:57, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > on commons fileupload list there was the need to have streaming for
> Parts.
> >
> > As of today Servle
Le mer. 12 juil. 2023 à 10:47, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> On 07/07/2023 09:33, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Do you think we can make jakarta.annotations optional from
> tomcat-catalina?
> > Would ease IDE completion when this is not supported and tomcat i
want to provide this thru the current API implementing a LazyList
(while only Iterator is touched the list is not materialized)?
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Hi,
Do you think we can make jakarta.annotations optional from tomcat-catalina?
Would ease IDE completion when this is not supported and tomcat is wrapped
in another web api.
Technically it does not look crazy but wonder if it can end upstream.
If it helps, here is a draft: https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/630
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?
It would enable to not only rely on local filesystem but also more exotic
ones (in mem for ex).
Was it already discussed/studied? Would it makes sense in tomcat codebase?
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the annotation processor, really
nothing crazy IMHO on that part (hard one is to use Blackhole properly and
tune the jvm for the bench) but happy to help if needed.
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ts which haven't been
> migrated yet) run in just over 5 mins and I haven't even looked at
> tuning (parallel) options yet.
>
> Mark
>
> >
> > Rémy
> >
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16/06/2023 20:18, Mark Thomas
; Mark
>
>
>
> On 16/06/2023 16:34, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > On TomEE side (and other spec impl ones) we had a hybrid approach:
> >
> > * Add arquillian container properties when reusable (ex: context
> > customization for tomcat
arquillian.xml for this particular case or if not willed,
let tomcat-tck module patch the default container to do it programmatically
specifically for tck runner. Kind of least worse compromise IMHO.
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+1 for java 21, since tomcat 11 is still in the "dont use" area I think it
can start with 21 and thanks to the backport policy if java 17 is needed
later, work will not be crazy IMHO.
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a fix it since this one is very trivial to do in the failing
project ([1]).
[1]
https://github.com/CodeGerm/osgi-server/blob/master/plugins/org.cg.dao.webcontainer/src/org/cg/dao/webcontainer/tomcat/DaoClassLoader.java#L132
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Le ven. 28 avr. 2023 à 11:55, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 9:02 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
> >
> > Le ven. 28 avr. 2023 à 08:36, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> >
> > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 8:10 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
Le ven. 28 avr. 2023 à 08:36, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 8:10 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Guess this utility should be there very early so before other
> starts/stops
> > sounds good but ultimately init/destro
Hi
Guess this utility should be there very early so before other starts/stops
sounds good but ultimately init/destroy is better since it avoids to create
custom utility threads in subcomponents init/destroy (more destroy for real
cases I think, not sure for init).
What about getting it injected f
jeu. 20 avr. 2023 à 22:30, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit :
> Rmoain,
>
> On 4/20/23 15:27, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > I just notice using nio connector+sendfile+asynccontext seems quite not
> > functional, is it intended?
> >
&g
sendfile issue with such a mode.
Is it intended or just part of the code which didnt get enough love?
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Overall +1 but in the meantime what's the option, not using req.getReader?
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ot sure if RequestFacade would be casted as such or if some Unwrap API
can help but it would really help to promote this API without enforcing
InputStream usage which can make the code not respecting the encoding quite
easily - or enforce to duplicate servlet logic and its optimizations.
Wdyt?
Best,
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ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit :
> Romain,
>
> On 3/8/23 04:10, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Seems doing it only there will get back to the issue the synchronization
> > was introduced (there are other synch
ust (but more complex) solution so not sure which
compromise is the best.
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only
the pool to configure IMHO and tomcat could autoswitch to loom when
available :).
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Le lun. 27 févr. 2023 à 20:21, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> On 27/02/2023 18:02, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:> Le lun. 27 févr. 2023 à
> 18:38, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> >
> >> On 27/02/2023 17:09, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>&g
Le lun. 27 févr. 2023 à 18:38, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> On 27/02/2023 17:09, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > AFAIK loom or a standard thread pool are exactly the same except when you
> > use loom you need to ensure you pass the contextual executor to use
>
/ThreadBuilders(Executor) to configure it
and pass a standard executor to it.
Hope it makes sense.
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Le mar. 24 janv. 2023 à 14:48, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:37 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
> >
> > here is the idea https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/576
>
> People care about stats these days and the performance benefit of
> disabling
here is the idea https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/576
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If you care about the (perf) diff, shouldnt tomcat have a config to be able
to disable stats overhead at all (using a Runnable or Counter {incr(),
get()} as abstraction is sufficient) when it is not used (most of the time
in dev+prod - ie not sizing/tuning phases)?
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau
Guess it was more about default java for linux distro, build is only
reproducible if target --release flag is <= java distro version which will
not be the case for java 21 soon enough probably, not really a build issue
by itself more an ecosystem one - distro consumming sources.
Le mer. 11 janv. 2
Side question from an user standpoint: does it mean tomcat 11 must not be
used today too since it will abruptally switch its baseline (potentially
against the app baseline)? Isnt it against the 11 releases idea? Thinking
out loud and understanding jakarta decision is likely "weird"/inconsistent
but
Hi,
As an user we are adopting Tomcat 11 (even if still "on the edge") with
Java 17 (in particular for some lib/stacks) and the more reactive servlet
6.1 is very interesting so hope it can be made Java 17 compliant until
technically blocked.
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ore\\/RestrictedServlets\\.properties"},
{"pattern":
"org\\/apache\\/catalina\\/core\\/RestrictedFilters\\.properties"},
{"pattern":
"org\\/apache\\/catalina\\/core\\/RestrictedListeners\\.properties"},
{"pattern": "org
orlds if possible.
I don't see a big negative effect to support tomcat extensions in the
abstract impl so I'm proposing it as an option.
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sted and I need to do a PR, would be more than
happy to help if relevant.
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[X] Stable (non binding)
tested on a few downstream projects (like Yupiik Uship or Apache
OpenWebBeans Meecrowave - based on 10.x as of today) and detected no issue.
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Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 16:58, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 10:19 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
> >
> > Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 10:13, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> >
> > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 11:10 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > w
Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 10:13, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 11:10 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, it is not that simple.
> >
> > Two notes on that:
> >
> > 1. One point is the API, injector and instance manager are th
ava/org/apache/meecrowave/tomcat/CDIInstanceManager.java
and it is very few lines so not sure the injector would help much more for
a tomcat-cdi integration.
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<ht
ly for JSP. Guess you don't have this issue but
something making it easier to handle can also probably be welcomed by
consumers.
Le mar. 22 nov. 2022 à 17:26, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 4:30 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rémy,
> >
Hi Rémy,
I put a few comments inline hoping it helps
Le mar. 22 nov. 2022 à 16:11, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Following a post on the user list, I have looked into CDI and
> injection processing in Tomcat standalone (or standalone extended by
> CDI) and found the following issues:
>
>
Hi,
If it helps, commons weaver (
https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-weaver/commons-weaver-parent/commons-weaver-modules-parent/commons-weaver-privilizer-parent/index.html)
can help for the backport part (enable or not the run in build.xml).
Romain
Le dim. 2 oct. 2022 à 06:42, Christopher
Hi Chris,
My x10 dropping it was on java 17.
Romain
Le ven. 26 août 2022 à 02:39, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit :
> Mark,
>
> On 8/22/22 07:54, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > On 22/08/2022 11:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
> >> On 22/08/2022 1
Hi
Went ahead and created https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/547 (if it
helps)
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perf there
too - a lot when enabled.
Side note: graalvm integration is way easier without that check ;).
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ssed items
be cached in some (webapp) classloader to help to exit faster?
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Le ven. 20 mai 2022 à 12:10, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> On 20/05/2022 10:36, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Checking a project with multiple tomcat integrators (spring boot, uship,
> > meecrowave, tomee, ...) I realised Tomcat ecosystem is quite explo
cal.
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Hi
Openj9 is not affected I think so version wouldnt be enough, jvm name
should be tested too.
Le sam. 30 avr. 2022 à 00:18, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> On 29/04/2022 19:41, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>
>
>
> > 1. The underlying JVM is affected
> > 2. A Connector is defined with uses mutual TLS
>
+1 to encourage Oracle to make the JVM support nicer and plural but
I'm not sure it will happen tomorrow so there are still rooms to enhance
tomcat "integrability" way before IMHO.
Hope it makes sense.
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few classes you want.
Also wonder if you tried -notimestamp option.
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Le jeu. 23 déc. 2021 à 22:53, Christopher Schultz <
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> Romain,
>
> On 12/18/21 14:28, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > I wonder if you would be interested in an access log "function" enabling
> to
> > make an access log e
ion which would benefit from some json encoding
is org.apache.catalina.valves.JsonErrorReportValve#report since currently
it produces invalid json depending the message value.
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sense.
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Le mer. 15 sept. 2021 à 13:13, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> On 15/09/2021 11:07, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > I think the last option is maybe the target: modularize tomcat properly.
>
> "Properly" is a highly subjective judgement. There are going to be
> wildly differing
regarding JPMS I think it is either being really modular or not being
modular since the in between state leads to unsatisfied people and the
biggest constraints come from JPMS.
Is it something targettable or do you think it is too much work?
side note: fine for me if it targets only 10.1.
Romain M
but
happy with other solutions not requiring to fork.
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Le jeu. 8 juil. 2021 à 15:36, Rémy Maucherat a écrit :
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 1:21 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > My understanding of the issue is that the isGraal test is not sufficient
> > and should be precised to be isG
is not precise enough
but that the disabling should stay by default for native-image.
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+1 to move forward even if jakarta is not yet adopted (there is a single
time direction - at least at our scale ;))
-0 to break all clones and related toolings/automotion for hypothetical
reasons, didn't pay in all projects which did AFAIK
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+1, new instance manager usage for websocket layer works perfectly!
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ruby, python and more recently
typescript where XML is not so lovely to use so think JSON can help
automotion there.
Wdyt?
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Le mer. 5 mai 2021 à 11:19, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> On 05/05/2021 09:58, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:17 PM Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Still working on getting TomEE certified for Jakarta EE 9.1
> >> We are using latest Tomcat 10.x and we indeed s
+1, xml fix is helping
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Isnt the response buffer size giving a sufficient hint or callback like
(dont rewrite before it is reached or body starts to be read)? Guess filter
must force some size if not set but sounds like something to check, no?
Le mar. 27 avr. 2021 à 21:32, Raymond Augé
a écrit :
> Couldn't you add a ca
uired "glue" to compensate a
drop or is it still "too much" to maintain in your opinion?
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egistration
> > in another jar usable when not relying on tomcat-ws-api. Both options
> work
> > too even if first one would be simpler probably.
> >
> > Le jeu. 22 avr. 2021 à 18:29, Raymond Augé .invalid>
> > a écrit :
> >
> >> Rom
Le lun. 26 avr. 2021 à 18:57, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> On 26/04/2021 17:38, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > JAASRealm is quite commonly used whereas JASPIC is almost never used
>
> References?
>
Sadly not public but all project not using a custom valve/auth where using
jaas and
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