Re: true or false: pkgconfig(foo) vs foo-devel

2019-07-18 Thread Remi Collet
Le 18/07/2019 à 18:26, Nicolas Chauvet a écrit : >> "Build dependencies on Fedora packages which provide pkg-config files SHOULD >> be expressed >> as pkgconfig(foo) and not foo-devel, whether the dependent package uses >> pkg-config or not." > > This is true for the fast majority of cases. Spe

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Till Hofmann
On 7/18/19 6:44 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote: > On 7/18/19 10:28 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote: >> >> On 7/18/19 4:10 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: >>> Hello, Zdenek Dohnal. >>> >>> Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:51:33 +0200 you wrote: >>> Even the new .spec files, which do not have to be RPM spec files?

Re: true or false: pkgconfig(foo) vs foo-devel

2019-07-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > Depending on the package name is not a way to state you're not using > pkgconfig, it's a way to get broken builds when the package you depend > on gets restructured. On the other hand, there are also cases where pkgconfig(foo) can break: * if compatibility librar

Re: Options for 64-bit time_t support on 32-bit architectures

2019-07-18 Thread Florian Weimer
* Florian Weimer: > For Fedora, that would affect the i686 architecture only. It was pointed out off-list that I forgot armhfp. Sorry! The external pressure to keep armhfp going indefinitely and switch to a 64-bit time_t is probably larger on armhfp than on i686. The reason is that new armhfp

Re: Options for 64-bit time_t support on 32-bit architectures

2019-07-18 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Cronenworth: > On 7/18/19 4:05 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: >> Old binaries with a 32-bit time_t will continue to run, but new >> binaries built against a current glibc will always use a 64-bit time_t >> under this approach. > How would this affect Wine's handling of 32-bit PE binaries? I'

Re: i686 hw builders running out of ram in cpio?

2019-07-18 Thread John Reiser
Anyone else seeing this? It seems to only happen on physical i686 machines, not vm's, but that's based on only three builds so far. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=36329825 BUILDSTDERR: create archive failed: cpio: write failed - Cannot allocate memory Very similar to

i686 hw builders running out of ram in cpio?

2019-07-18 Thread DJ Delorie
Anyone else seeing this? It seems to only happen on physical i686 machines, not vm's, but that's based on only three builds so far. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=36329825 BUILDSTDERR: create archive failed: cpio: write failed - Cannot allocate memory (this is after t

Re: Options for 64-bit time_t support on 32-bit architectures

2019-07-18 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 7/18/19 4:05 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: Old binaries with a 32-bit time_t will continue to run, but new binaries built against a current glibc will always use a 64-bit time_t under this approach. How would this affect Wine's handling of 32-bit PE binaries? I'm assuming they will also break

Options for 64-bit time_t support on 32-bit architectures

2019-07-18 Thread Florian Weimer
There is an effort under way to enhance glibc so that it can use the Y2038 support in the kernel. The result will be that more 32-bit architectures can use a 64-bit time_t. (Currently, it's x86-64 x32 only.) Originally, the plan was to support both ABIs in glibc for building new applications, si

Re: Self Introduction: Dee'Kej (looking for sponsor)

2019-07-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Welcome back to Fedora. I've clicked the necessary sponsorship buttons. - J< ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "ZD" == Zdenek Dohnal writes: ZD> Hi all, I would like to ask as Vim co-maintainer, do you find useful ZD> for Vim to do: ZD> - when you open new file with .spec suffix, Vim will get you basic ZD> spec file structure? Personally I have always found that behavior annoying. If I open a new

Re: MPFR 4

2019-07-18 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:07 AM Jerry James wrote: > I'm down to these 3 still to go: arm-none-eabi-gcc-cs, avr-gcc, and > cross-gcc. Those gcc builds take a long time. :-) So far the builds > have gone smoothly. All the builds have completed without trouble. I did have to patch a couple of pa

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Steven A. Falco
On 7/18/19 10:28 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote: > > On 7/18/19 4:10 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: >> Hello, Zdenek Dohnal. >> >> Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:51:33 +0200 you wrote: >> >>> Even the new .spec files, which do not have to be RPM spec files? >>> Because Vim provides spec template for such cases

Re: true or false: pkgconfig(foo) vs foo-devel

2019-07-18 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
Le jeu. 18 juil. 2019 à 17:12, Philip Kovacs via devel a écrit : > > > It does not matter if the config process uses pkgconfig or not. > > Depending on the package name is not a way to state you're not using > > pkgconfig, it's a way to get broken builds when the package you depend > > on gets res

Re: Compiling with AddressSanitizer

2019-07-18 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Thu, 2019-07-18 at 10:25 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Nathanael Noblet: > > >I have been using a library for awhile now and have been > > thinking > >of submitting it to Fedora. Part of what I have been doing with > > it > >was compiling it using -fsanitize=address and leak etc.

Self Introduction: Dee'Kej (looking for sponsor)

2019-07-18 Thread David Kašpar
Hello, my name is David Kaspar (a.k.a. Dee'Kej), and I used to be a package maintainer as a Red Hat employee for 3.5 years. Now that I'm no longer part of Red Hat I can't use my old Red Hat associated accounts to help with the work on Fedora... Therefore I have restored my old 'deekej' FAS accoun

Re: true or false: pkgconfig(foo) vs foo-devel

2019-07-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:26 AM Philip Kovacs via devel wrote: > > A "necessary and sufficient" question on the use of .pc files supplied by > library providers. > > 1. Package foo-devel installs a pkgconfig .pc file as a convenience to > developers. > 2. Package bar requires headers and librar

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Zdenek Dohnal
On 7/18/19 4:10 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > Hello, Zdenek Dohnal. > > Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:51:33 +0200 you wrote: > >> Even the new .spec files, which do not have to be RPM spec files? >> Because Vim provides spec template for such cases. > I never used this feature, so I think it can be

Re: true or false: pkgconfig(foo) vs foo-devel

2019-07-18 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
> It does not matter if the config process uses pkgconfig or not.  > Depending on the package name is not a way to state you're not using > pkgconfig, it's a way to get broken builds when the package you depend > on gets restructured. Then the docs should be strengthened to state the case from

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
Hello, Zdenek Dohnal. Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:51:33 +0200 you wrote: > Even the new .spec files, which do not have to be RPM spec files? > Because Vim provides spec template for such cases. I never used this feature, so I think it can be disabled by default. But syntax highlighting for RPM SPEC file

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le 2019-07-18 15:51, Zdenek Dohnal a écrit : On 7/18/19 3:39 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Hello, Zdenek Dohnal. Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:44:56 +0200 you wrote: What's your opinion? Is it useful feature of Vim and it should stay as default, or it needs to be disabled? I think, that *.spec f

Re: true or false: pkgconfig(foo) vs foo-devel

2019-07-18 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
As stated in https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/PkgConfigBuildRequires/ pkgconfig(foo) is a more reliable marker of what ships the devel files, than the package name. It does not matter if the config process uses pkgconfig or not. Depending on the package name is not

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Zdenek Dohnal
On 7/18/19 3:39 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > Hello, Zdenek Dohnal. > > Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:44:56 +0200 you wrote: > >> What's your opinion? Is it useful feature of Vim and it should stay as >> default, or it needs to be disabled? > I think, that *.spec files on Fedora should be treated as

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Zdenek Dohnal
On 7/18/19 3:25 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote: > On 7/18/19 7:44 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I would like to ask as Vim co-maintainer, do you find useful for Vim to do: >> >> - when you open new file with .spec suffix, Vim will get you basic spec >> file structure? >> >> Recently I found

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
Hello, Zdenek Dohnal. Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:44:56 +0200 you wrote: > What's your opinion? Is it useful feature of Vim and it should stay as > default, or it needs to be disabled? I think, that *.spec files on Fedora should be treated as RPM SPEC files by default. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vi

true or false: pkgconfig(foo) vs foo-devel

2019-07-18 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
A "necessary and sufficient" question on the use of .pc files supplied by library providers. 1. Package foo-devel installs a pkgconfig .pc file as a convenience to developers. 2. Package bar requires headers and libraries provided by foo and is both a build    and runtime dependency of foo.3. Pa

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Steven A. Falco
On 7/18/19 7:44 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to ask as Vim co-maintainer, do you find useful for Vim to do: > > - when you open new file with .spec suffix, Vim will get you basic spec > file structure? > > Recently I found out someone can find it as bad behavior > https://

jaxen-1.2.0 license change

2019-07-18 Thread Marián Konček
The package jaxen at least since version 1.2.0 no longer includes the only differently (under W3C) licensed file from the rest (BSD) which leaves the package with a single license (BSD). -- Marián Konček ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Till Hofmann
On 7/18/19 1:44 PM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to ask as Vim co-maintainer, do you find useful for Vim to do: > > - when you open new file with .spec suffix, Vim will get you basic spec > file structure? > > Recently I found out someone can find it as bad behavior > https:

Orphaning rubygem-{fission,CFPropertyList}

2019-07-18 Thread Vít Ondruch
rubygem-fission + rubygem-CFPropertyList which is its dependency used to be used by rubygem-fog-* packages. Because these were dropped couple of months ago, I don't have any other use for rubygem-{fission,CFPropertyList} therefore I am orphaning them. ___

Vim and spec template

2019-07-18 Thread Zdenek Dohnal
Hi all, I would like to ask as Vim co-maintainer, do you find useful for Vim to do: - when you open new file with .spec suffix, Vim will get you basic spec file structure? Recently I found out someone can find it as bad behavior https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1724126 , so I consider

Orphaning rubygem-ldap_fluff

2019-07-18 Thread Vít Ondruch
I don't have any use for this library, so I have orphaned it. Vít ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/p

Re: Outage: Upgrade of Copr servers - 2019-07-18 05:00 UTC

2019-07-18 Thread Jakub Kadlcik
The outage is done, all our servers are now running Fedora 30 and everything should work again. We apologize for any inconvenience caused by the outage. Jakub On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 10:03 PM Jakub Kadlcik wrote: > > There will be an outage starting at 2019-07-18 05:00 UTC, which will last > app

Orphaned AsciiBinder

2019-07-18 Thread Vít Ondruch
AsciiBinder was introduced into Fedora to help generate Fedora documentation. Nevertheless, it has been long replaced by Antora. I don't have any use for AsciiBinder myself and it is deprecated upstream (the home page should be switched of on July 31, 2019), therefore I have orphaned rubygem-ascii_

Re: Orphaned python2-django1.11

2019-07-18 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
Le mer. 19 juin 2019 à 15:16, Petr Viktorin a écrit : > > Hello, > Back when [Django 2.0] was released in Fedora 28, I took over Django > 1.11 LTS as some important (to me) packages depended on it. I'm no > longer interested in maintaining it, so I've orphaned it. > Let me know if you want to take

Re: Compiling with AddressSanitizer

2019-07-18 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi Nathanael, Nathanael Noblet writes: > Hello, > >I have been using a library for awhile now and have been thinking of > submitting it to Fedora. Part of what I have been doing with it was compiling > it using -fsanitize=address and leak etc. I’m kinda wondering about how that > is handl

Re: Compiling with AddressSanitizer

2019-07-18 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi Nathanael, Nathanael Noblet writes: > Hello, > >I have been using a library for awhile now and have been thinking of > submitting it to Fedora. Part of what I have been doing with it was compiling > it using -fsanitize=address and leak etc. I’m kinda wondering about how that > is handl

Re: Compiling with AddressSanitizer

2019-07-18 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nathanael Noblet: >I have been using a library for awhile now and have been thinking >of submitting it to Fedora. Part of what I have been doing with it >was compiling it using -fsanitize=address and leak etc. I’m kinda >wondering about how that is handled with Fedora packages. A