Re: org-assert-version considered harmful

2022-09-24 Thread Timothy
Hi Ihor, > Should we use the next planned release version number on main branch as > a convention? For what it’s worth, in my own build of Org I set `org-release' to `MAJOR.(MINOR+1).0', e.g. when the last tag is `9.5.5' I set `org-release' to `9.6.0'. The `.0' suffix serves to differentiate

Re: IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done)

2022-09-24 Thread Timothy
Hi Ihor, > Jean Louis writes: > >> For IRC, there are ways to record history, and I am sure that >> such history may be recorded with referencable hyperlinks. >> >> Look at this example from Guix IRC channel: >> > > AFAIU, this should be supported by the IRC server.

Re: IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done)

2022-09-24 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Jean Louis writes: > For IRC, there are ways to record history, and I am sure that > such history may be recorded with referencable hyperlinks. > > Look at this example from Guix IRC channel: > https://logs.guix.gnu.org/ AFAIU, this should be supported by the IRC server. Does irc.libera.chat

Re: [Patch] Pre-/postpend arbitrary LaTeX code to a section

2022-09-24 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Juan Manuel Macías writes: >> #+ATTR_BACKEND: :export_template "can also work on non-headings" >> Paragraph. > > In this case I would not see it necessary, IMHO. For simple things (of > the begin/end style) there are the special blocks. And for more complex > pre- and/or post- code we have

Re: [BUG] Face attribute customization is ignored [9.5.5 (9.5.5-gbe2246 @ /home/dav/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

2022-09-24 Thread Ihor Radchenko
David Vicente writes: > On 24/09/22 02:58, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> Yes, it does. Just set it to nil, and you will be good to go. > > > Won't that have other effects? Hmm. A single side effect will be that the fonts will not be applied to the newline characters after the begin/end block lines.

Re: org-assert-version considered harmful

2022-09-24 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Bastien writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Then, I am inclined towards easing the version check to (org-version) >> instead of (org-git-version). > > FWIW strong +1 here. There is one more concern we may need to solve prior to changing org-git-version to org-version. Currently, main and

Re: [PATCH] ob-clojure.el: Add support for babashka and nbb backend

2022-09-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Daniel, Daniel Kraus writes: > Attached is the patch changed the logic to use a temp file with > org-babel-eval. Applied in main as 764642f5, thanks a lot and sorry for the delay. I also added you to https://orgmode.org/worg/contributors.html. Would you consider taking over the

Re: Suggested Syntax for cancelled checkboxes: [-] as non-blocking dependency

2022-09-24 Thread Bastien
Ihor Radchenko writes: > For reference, I am seeing this feature as a step towards better > modularity of org-list.el. Modularity is good if we have use-cases for it, at least one feature relying on it. I wouldn't implement a feature just to add modularity. > The current list code is rather

Re: [External] : Re: strange errors with org-element-cache-reset and jit-lock-function void-variable org-element-citation-prefix-re

2022-09-24 Thread Bastien Guerry
Ihor Radchenko writes: > I am leaning towards removing `this-command' check, unless there are > important reasons to keep it. Yes, please go ahead. -- Bastien

Re: org-assert-version considered harmful

2022-09-24 Thread Bastien
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Then, I am inclined towards easing the version check to (org-version) > instead of (org-git-version). FWIW strong +1 here. -- Bastien

Re: [PATCH] babel output seems to drop anything before % (in session)

2022-09-24 Thread Bastien Guerry
Ihor Radchenko writes: > May you clarify if we are following the FSF copyright assignment rules > for test? Yes, we should. Tests are just source code. -- Bastien

Re: [PATCH] babel output seems to drop anything before % (in session)

2022-09-24 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Applied onto main via a35d16368. > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=a35d163685908386833a3d549ed110931bf3915a > > I did not do anything with Daniele's patch because it requires FSF > copyright. Bastien, If I recall correctly, our tests are

Re: IM dev discussions?

2022-09-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2022-09-24 05:10]: > messenger is probably just to IM with their parents!). From their > perspective, FB is what their parents use and email is what their > grandparents use! No way will they use a mail list. That may be the trend within a generation. Though there are interest

Re: IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done)

2022-09-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-09-21 11:15]: > The disadvantage of IRC is absence of message history. > Without history, small-sized channels like I am proposing (dedicated to > Org mode devs) are not very useful. We live in different time zones and > countries. >From Org master view point, every

Re: [Patch] Pre-/postpend arbitrary LaTeX code to a section

2022-09-24 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Hi, Ihor, sorry for the late reply, Ihor Radchenko writes: > Having read the available replies in this thread, I am thinking of the > following: > > 1. Instead of explicit prefix and suffix, we can unify extra text around >the exported Org element to a template: > > * headline > :PROPERTIES:

Re: Opening of links

2022-09-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/09/2022 21:49, Guillaume MULLER wrote: - My OS settings are configured so that PDFs are opened in Evince. I configured this with "xfce4-settings-manager > Default Applications" (which runs "xfce4-mime-settings" under the hood) and it can be verified with "xdg-open test.pdf" or by

Re: [BUG] Face attribute customization is ignored [9.5.5 (9.5.5-gbe2246 @ /home/dav/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

2022-09-24 Thread David Vicente
On 24/09/22 02:58, Ihor Radchenko wrote: Yes, it does. Just set it to nil, and you will be good to go. Won't that have other effects?

Re: refresh not working for org-mode from git

2022-09-24 Thread Colin Baxter
The solution is to use `make autoloads'. I suppose that should have been obvious to me at the beginning. After git pull (`+' in vc-dir) the working recipe is: 1. rm *.elc 2. Update in org-mode buffer using C-c C-x ! 3. make clean 4. make autoloads 5. Check update org-mode via C-c C-x! 6. make

Re: [PATCH] Babel evaluation: location and timing information (v2)

2022-09-24 Thread Timothy
Hi All, I’ve now resolved all the documentation issues Ihor raised, and since there were no other concerns raised, I’ve just pushed this as e8a797e1437d7aef2ce414694d2b642683f79976. All the best, Timothy

Re: refresh not working for org-mode from git

2022-09-24 Thread Colin Baxter
Dear Ithor, > Ihor Radchenko writes: > Colin Baxter writes: >> Recently, if I use C-c C-x ! to refresh org-mode after a git >> pull, I get an error. I then have to close down emacs and launch >> again. This rather defeats the object of C-c C-x !. This appears >> to

Re: refresh not working for org-mode from git

2022-09-24 Thread Colin Baxter
Thank you for your detailed reply. > Tim Cross writes: > Colin Baxter writes: >> Recently, if I use C-c C-x ! to refresh org-mode after a git >> pull, I get an error. I then have to close down emacs and launch >> again. This rather defeats the object of C-c C-x !. This

Re: Suggested Syntax for cancelled checkboxes: [-] as non-blocking dependency

2022-09-24 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "TC" == Tim Cross writes: TC> At any rate, at this point, I suspect this is something best TC> handled in individual configurations rather than attempting to TC> impose a specific interpretation on everyone. If someone needs TC> help to write a simple command to 'toggle'

Re: IM dev discussions?

2022-09-24 Thread Payas Relekar
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Is there is possibility to merge multiple rooms in Matrix/IRC? There is! It is called Spaces, which allows arbitrary hierarchy of other rooms (as well as spaces). NixOS organisation and its various sub-groups are already quite successfully utilizing it, if you'd like to

Re: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done

2022-09-24 Thread Timothy
Hi Bastien, > IMHO if someone with UX/UI experience can/wants to interview real Org > newcomers, that will help us a lot for deciding about such tiny changes. Unfortunately, it can be quite hard to find such people on the ML etc. (funny about that ). For what it’s worth, when doing the

Re: IM dev discussions?

2022-09-24 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Mark Barton writes: >> You will likely find more young people >> who use Emacs and org will also use email more, but I don't know if that >> is because the types of people attracted to Emacs and org mode are also >> the types of people more attracted to email for comms. > > > My trend has been

Re: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done

2022-09-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Timothy, Timothy writes: > I think we’d want people to see this, and so I’d actually be inclined to make > the “bug report” button link to this page, and the feedback button just be a > `mailto:' link. Done! > For what it’s worth, I personally consider stuffing lines of “important!” text >

Re: IM dev discussions?

2022-09-24 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Timothy writes: > I find that very interesting to hear. It reminds me that the bcachefs matrix > room (which I hang out in),which has a Jitsi widget. Over there it seems that > occasionally the lead developer and the main other contributor seem to hang > out > there while working on the

Re: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done

2022-09-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Max, Max Nikulin writes: > "Install from ELPA" without "GNU". Fixed, thanks. -- Bastien