RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-15 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
m] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:10 AM To: drcuthb...@micron.com; george.stu...@watchguard.com; michael.hopk...@thermo.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Defining an ESD Threat I am willing to let others set the risetime etc. I am mainly interested in determining the total poten

Re: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-15 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
o simulate the worst a human could do under these circumstances. From: drcuthb...@micron.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:16:27 -0600 To: , , , Subject: RE: Defining an ESD Threat Ken, sounds good. Here's what I would try: Use a person, a goo

RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-15 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
04 9:10 AM To: drcuthbert; george.stu...@watchguard.com; michael.hopk...@thermo.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Defining an ESD Threat I am willing to let others set the risetime etc. I am mainly interested in determining the total potential and charge associated with a human dischar

Re: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-15 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
@listserv.ieee.org Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:04:01 -0600 To: , , , Subject: RE: Defining an ESD Threat You can charge someone up and discharge them into an ESD target. I did this with myself (I don't like going above 10 kV) to develop a better model. A person does not appear as a simple capa

RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-15 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Defining an ESD Threat http://esda.org/esdbasics1.htm and ttp://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/triboelectric_series.htm give further details of the effect of distance apart on the triboelectric series chart. From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.iee

Re: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-15 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Human. But I am wondering if I could simulate a human with some kind of "machine" for the purpose of defining a human ESD threat. > From: drcuthb...@micron.com > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:51:40 -0600 > To: , > Subject: RE: Defining an ESD Threat > > Ken, > >

RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-15 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Ken, Do you mean human ESD or machine? Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:04 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Defining an ESD Threat

Re: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
After looking at the triboelectric series, it seems that the only time a human would charge negatively is after falling off an airplane! Otherwise, you are likely to be positevily charged. Hans Mellberg

RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Behalf Of Mike Hopkins Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:24 PM To: 'Ken Javor'; Mike Hopkins; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Defining an ESD Threat Ah yes, things get more complicated as usual... There is something called the Triboelectric series, which gives you some i

RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
rom: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:33 PM To: Mike Hopkins; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Defining an ESD Threat That makes sense, but it only addresses half of the ESD environment question, which is how high a potential can something be

Re: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
resistor, but in terms of modeling scuffing one's feet and measuring the resultant charge collection? From: Mike Hopkins List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:18:24 -0400 To: "'Ken Javor'" , emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Defining an ESD

RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
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RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
com One Thermo, committed to integrity, intensity, innovation & involvement -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [ mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:04 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Defining an ESD Threat Esteemed List M

Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Esteemed List Members, I am working a problem where it would be helpful to define an ESD threat level in a particular high humidity, metallic surroundings environment - expectation is that ESD levels would be much lower than typical. I have a very high level concept of how it might be done, some