Re: Is ES3 good enough? Was incrementally strengthening ES3 paradigms considered?

2007-11-14 Thread P T Withington
On 2007-11-14, at 00:35 EST, Brendan Eich wrote: > At this point cue Alex Russell to argue for something I proposed > earlier, but didn't push hard enough: optional method bodies for > interfaces, for generic programming and default implementation code- > sharing. Actually, I think that was me.

Re: Is ES3 good enough? Was incrementally strengthening ES3 paradigms considered?

2007-11-14 Thread P T Withington
On 2007-11-14, at 00:14 EST, Yuh-Ruey Chen wrote: > Oh come on :) I was referring to the syntax of the class system, which > is undoubtedly Java-esque. Lot of Java haters in the functional (no > 1st-class functions!) and scripting (too verbose!) programming crowd. > Pretty much everyone's first im

Re: Is ES3 good enough? Was incrementally strengthening ES3 paradigms considered?

2007-11-13 Thread Yuh-Ruey Chen
Brendan Eich wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007, at 1:56 PM, YR Chen wrote: > > > Personally, I'm still mixed on the introduction of the whole > > nominal type system with classes and whatnot. I'm very sympathetic > > to views that ES4 should concentrate on ES3's weak points. At > > times, I feel that

Re: Is ES3 good enough? Was incrementally strengthening ES3 paradigms considered?

2007-11-13 Thread Brendan Eich
[Dude, overciting kills electric trees -- cut more of my deathless prose when replying, please! :-)] On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:14 PM, Yuh-Ruey Chen wrote: > 3) Completely abandoning ES3 in favor of another language(s). I'm > definitely not in favor for this, but this has been a very common > th

Re: Is ES3 good enough? Was incrementally strengthening ES3 paradigms considered?

2007-11-13 Thread Dave Herman
> Could the Scheme aspect of ES be strengthened? Tail recursion and let > statements seem like good additions. What about macros? Please! I can speak to the topic of macros. The group has been open to the possibility of macros for a future version of ES, but not Edition 4. There are not very man

Re: Is ES3 good enough? Was incrementally strengthening ES3 paradigms considered?

2007-11-12 Thread Brendan Eich
On Nov 12, 2007, at 1:56 PM, YR Chen wrote: > Personally, I'm still mixed on the introduction of the whole > nominal type system with classes and whatnot. I'm very sympathetic > to views that ES4 should concentrate on ES3's weak points. At > times, I feel that ES3 is just too "alien" a base

Re: Is ES3 good enough? Was incrementally strengthening ES3 paradigms considered?

2007-11-12 Thread YR Chen
On Nov 12, 2007 3:56 PM, YR Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm very sympathetic to views that ES4 should concentrate on ES3's weak > points. Oops, I meant that strong points, not weak points. ___ Es4-discuss mailing list Es4-discuss@mozilla.org http

Re: Is ES3 good enough? Was incrementally strengthening ES3 paradigms considered?

2007-11-12 Thread YR Chen
Personally, I'm still mixed on the introduction of the whole nominal type system with classes and whatnot. I'm very sympathetic to views that ES4 should concentrate on ES3's weak points. At times, I feel that ES3 is just too "alien" a base to build the "programming in the large" features that ES4 a

Is ES3 good enough? Was incrementally strengthening ES3 paradigms considered?

2007-11-08 Thread Peter Michaux
I've been reading the blogs and fuss over the the ES4 proposal. It seems to me that if ES3 was so horribly inadequate then big changes to the language would be welcomed unanimously. It must be that ES3 is sufficient to get by well enough that we have the luxury to argue about the worth of the propo