On 3/2/07, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I say is if we really want to 'shape up' and survive, then
> > compassion, democracy, ethics and scientific method are four essential
> > ingredients without which our modern world will go the way of all those
> > other civilisations your m
Brent: 'But they lasted a lot longer than we have.'
MP: Indeed this is probably true in most cases, but what none of them
had, which we DO have access to, is scientific method. Now I know Bruno
is dismissive of scientific method as applied in the modern world, but I
think Bruno is being idealis
Mark Peaty wrote:
> No Brent, what I AM saying is that they are GONE! Well and truly
> gorrnn!
But they lasted a lot longer than we have.
>
> We could get side tracked into all sorts of discussions about how each
> of the civilisations you named, waxed and waned more than once in
No Brent, what I AM saying is that they are GONE! Well and truly
gorrnn!
We could get side tracked into all sorts of discussions about how each
of the civilisations you named, waxed and waned more than once in the
face of environmental changes and the inherent instability of feudal
of Hell. ("Brimstone" requires oxygen, to burn - at
least in THIS universe.)
John M
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From: Saibal Mitra
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: Believing in Divine Destiny
The only connection I c
Are you saying I just dreamed that Sumer, Ur, Egypt, Babylon, Rome, Sparta,
Cathay, and the Indus Valley where civilization first developed and lasted for
thousands of years (much longer than the U.S. which is the oldest existing
democracy) were not democratic and pre-dated the scientific metho
Torgny Tholerus wrote:
> Mark Peaty skrev:
>> However, we must call a spade a spade; all this guff that gets called
>> 'theology' and 'spirituality' is ultimately a bunch of assertions that
>> can neither be proved nor disproved in any concrete sense because they
>> are all expressions of belie
Well [EMAIL PROTECTED] your response has been even more disappointing
than even my very low expectation prepared me for. You have not even
recognised what my questions were about, let alone made any significant
attempt to address them.
As an ex-Christian I know what it is like to be sucked int
OK, tell me where all those civilisations of the past have gone to,
because THEY did NOT survived.
Tell me what makes YOU so sure this current global civilisation can
survive. I am more than happy to be shown where I am wrong, but if you
TRULY disagree with what I am saying, I would like you to
Dream on Brent ...
Regards
Mark Peaty CDES
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.arach.net.au/~mpeaty/
Brent Meeker wrote:
> Klortho wrote:
>
>>> The other thing I do is check to what extent a person's speech and
>>> writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of
>>> civilisation:
The only connection I can think of is as follows. For any given religious
text there should exist a universe which "best fits" those text.
Saibal
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From: "Wei Dai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:55 PM
Subjec
> A year ago or so Wei Dai put an end to religious discussions on the list.
I don't remember if I did that a year ago or not, but I certainly think the
current discussion is off-topic. This mailing list is based on the premise
that all possible universes exist. Unless someone can think of a con
John Mikes wrote:
> Stathis:
> You, of all people, should realize that one belief system cannot reach
> over to
> another one. Logic - mindset is different, "facts" come in different
> shades, "evidence" is
> adjusted to the 'system', a belief system is a whole world.
> Brent makes the same mist
no recourse). It is just as not religious as the commi
world was (unless you call that, too, religion).
More dangerous, because of the promised rewards in the 'afterworld' which is
believable, but not checkable.
John
- Original Message -
From: Stathis Papaioannou
To:
On 2/28/07, John Mikes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Stathis:
> You, of all people, should realize that one belief system cannot reach
> over to
> another one. Logic - mindset is different, "facts" come in different
> shades, "evidence" is
> adjusted to the 'system', a belief system is a whole world.
Stathis:
You, of all people, should realize that one belief system cannot reach over
to
another one. Logic - mindset is different, "facts" come in different shades,
"evidence" is
adjusted to the 'system', a belief system is a whole world.
Brent makes the same mistake: to argue from his 'scientific'
[EMAIL PROTECTED], I rarely pass up an opportunity for religious debate,
but I am honestly overwhelmed by your recent posts. I hope you have not done
all this work just to be relegated to the list archive. How did you find us,
anyway?
Stathis Papaioannou
--~--~-~--~~~-
foolish to just accept it, even if it can be shown that I genuinely believe
what I am claiming.
Stathis Papaioannou
On 2/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2:06 am, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (Jn.10:30), therefore, is not
> Jesus the same, or, "co-equal" in status with his Father?
> Answer No.1
> In Greek, `heis' means `one' numerically (masc.)
> `hen' means `one' in unity or essence (neut.)
> Here the word used by John
How can we argue for God's existence and unity in a way everyone can
understand?
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.
So God sets forth parables for men in order that they may bear (them)
in mind and take lessons (through them). (14:25)
Such parables do we set forth for men so th
is 'holding forth' and purporting to describe my world for me.
>
> The other thing I do is check to what extent a person's speech and
> writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of
> civilisation:
> Compassion, democracy, ethics and scientific method
On Feb 25, 2:06 am, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in
> > accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined
> > by God, the All-Mighty. While t
Klortho wrote:
>
>> The other thing I do is check to what extent a person's speech and
>> writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of
>> civilisation:
>> Compassion, democracy, ethics and scientific method. No civilisation can
>> survive without all four of these.
>>
>
> Talk
> The other thing I do is check to what extent a person's speech and
> writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of
> civilisation:
> Compassion, democracy, ethics and scientific method. No civilisation can
> survive without all four of these.
>
Talk about assertions without a
eech and
writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of
civilisation:
Compassion, democracy, ethics and scientific method. No civilisation can
survive without all four of these.
Regards
Mark Peaty CDES
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.arach.net.au/~mpeaty/
[EMAIL PROTECTE
On 2/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in
> accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined
> by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute evidences
> of Des
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in
> accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined
> by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute evidences
> of Destiny, it may be sufficient
Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in
accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined
by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute evidences
of Destiny, it may be sufficient to make some introductory remarks to
demonstrate how
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