Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 19:32 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: $ env|grep GNOME GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-JmCobi GNOME_KEYRING_PID=2040 However neither PID 2040, nor file /tmp/keyring-JmCobi exist (a bunch of other /tmp/keyring* files do exist). This looks like it's worth

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hi Patrick, I've been following this thread, but only a little bit. So let me apologize if this ignores something you've explained. I suspect I am seeing some of the same difficulties that you are. Actually, nothing related to Evolution or KDE (my box can't inhibit auto-suspending under

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
Quoting Ross Vandegrift r...@kallisti.us: I've been following this thread, but only a little bit. So let me apologize if this ignores something you've explained. ... I am, at this point, confident that if I could convince gnome-session to start correctly, my issues would be fixed. KDE

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 14:21 -0500, Ross Vandegrift wrote: 2) Minimal window managers like FVWM typically get installed with Xsessions which instruct GDM to handle session management. AFAICT, this uses gnome-session to start FVWM. This way, all the fdo stuff gets started, and then the other

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 16:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 14:21 -0500, Ross Vandegrift wrote: 2) Minimal window managers like FVWM typically get installed with Xsessions which instruct GDM to handle session management. AFAICT, this uses gnome-session to start

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 09:56 +, Pete Biggs wrote: I know you've said previously that you have two instances of gnome-keyring-daemon running - is that still the case? Do you know when they are started? Immediately after logging in, but before running Evo, I have: 23795

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 09:23 +, Pete Biggs wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 00:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 17:12 +, Pete Biggs wrote: What I think is also happening for some people who use KDE, is that the login keyring is not unlocked by PAM, so when

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-07 Thread Pete Biggs
... and we're back. I updated my system and on logging in again Evo once more asked me for my login password, which it had not done on the earlier test (honest, guv). Back to the drawing board. I know you've said previously that you have two instances of gnome-keyring-daemon running - is

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 14:07 +, Pete Biggs wrote: ... and we're back. I updated my system and on logging in again Evo once more asked me for my login password, which it had not done on the earlier test (honest, guv). Back to the drawing board. I know you've said previously that

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-06 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 00:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 17:12 +, Pete Biggs wrote: What I think is also happening for some people who use KDE, is that the login keyring is not unlocked by PAM, so when Evo starts, the gnome-keyring daemon is started and that

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-05 Thread Lailah
May I bother you a little, boys? I have two keyrings too, login and default, and it doesn't ask me twice. It only ask once to unlock the keyring and that's all. I think that this is very weird. It has to have some kind of logic somewhere but I just can't see it. Regards Sylvia

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-05 Thread Lailah
Well, the keyring password is because there are all the passwords of all of your accounts. You can see this, typing wrong password twice; you will have a prompt asking you for the password of every account you have, to receive and to send. So it has logic. Is the login password that I don't see

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-05 Thread Pete Biggs
I have two keyrings too, login and default, and it doesn't ask me twice. It only ask once to unlock the keyring and that's all. I think that this is very weird. It has to have some kind of logic somewhere but I just can't see it. As I understand it If PAM is setup correctly,

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 17:12 +, Pete Biggs wrote: What I think is also happening for some people who use KDE, is that the login keyring is not unlocked by PAM, so when Evo starts, the gnome-keyring daemon is started and that asks for the password to the 'login' keyring, to try and find the

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 00:46 +, Pete Biggs wrote: I too have two keyrings - 'login' and 'default' - all my passwords are in 'default' and I get asked for a password every time I start up Gnome - so I thought I would do a bit of reading ... It appears that unfortunately the PAM

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Lailah
Patrick: My operative system is Fedora 16, may be they manage some issues better than other systems. Now I'm having a little and strange problem: in Gnome sometimes appears something saying that Gconf is not running so it can't start the Evolution configuration. But it only

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 10:19 -0200, Lailah wrote: Patrick: My operative system is Fedora 16, may be they manage some issues better than other systems. Now I'm having a little and strange problem: in Gnome sometimes appears something saying that Gconf is not running so it can't

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Pete Biggs
I am also using Fedora 16. All my mail accounts but one are IMAP. The odd one out is POP. However I doubt that that is the problem since Evo is not asking me for any of the account passwords, it's asking 1) for my login password, and 2) for my keyring password. Perhaps your keyring has two

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 18:36 +, Pete Biggs wrote: Evo should be storing everything in the key labelled 'default'. Not quite. We always talk to the default keyring, whatever it happens to be labeled. Default keyring is a separate setting from the keyring label. Nowadays the default keyring

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 13:43 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 18:36 +, Pete Biggs wrote: Evo should be storing everything in the key labelled 'default'. Not quite. We always talk to the default keyring, whatever it happens to be labeled. Default keyring is a separate

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Pete Biggs
Not quite. We always talk to the default keyring, whatever it happens to be labeled. Default keyring is a separate setting from the keyring label. Nowadays the default keyring is usually labeled 'login' so you get the PAM login integration I mentioned earlier. Maybe that's a

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Pete Biggs
I too have two keyrings - 'login' and 'default' - all my passwords are in 'default' and I get asked for a password every time I start up Gnome - so I thought I would do a bit of reading ... It appears that unfortunately the PAM Gnome-Keyring integration will only unlock the 'login'

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-29 Thread Matt Needles
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 05:57 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 09:39 -0200, Lailah wrote: I was doing some proofs in my system in which live together KDE, Gnome 3 and Cinnamon. When I start Evolution in Gnome and click on Send/Receiving it asks to me for keyring

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-28 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 09:39 -0200, Lailah wrote: I was doing some proofs in my system in which live together KDE, Gnome 3 and Cinnamon. When I start Evolution in Gnome and click on Send/Receiving it asks to me for keyring password and then start normally. When I start Evolution in KDE and

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 09:39 -0200, Lailah wrote: Patrick: I was doing some proofs in my system in which live together KDE, Gnome 3 and Cinnamon. When I start Evolution in Gnome and click on Send/Receiving it asks to me for keyring password and then start normally. When I

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-27 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 00:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My understanding is that under Gnome you should only ever have to give the keyring password, and if it's the same as the login pw then you won't have to give anything, i.e. it Just Works. Since I never use the Gnome desktop

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-26 Thread Lailah
Patrick: I was doing some proofs in my system in which live together KDE, Gnome 3 and Cinnamon. When I start Evolution in Gnome and click on Send/Receiving it asks to me for keyring password and then start normally. When I start Evolution in KDE and click on Send/Receiving it

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 18:47 -0600, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 19:41 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: As has been commented several times on this list over the years, none of KDE knows anything about the Gnome keyring. KDE has its own entirely separate keystore, the KDE

[Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Paulo Crespi
Dear John, dear Adam, I ran into the same problem after upgrading to evolution 3.2.1 on OpenSuse 12.1 and KDE 4.7.2. After many (in my opinion useless) attempts to solve the keyring issue, I eventually deleted gconf, restarted evolution and set up my mail accounts. As expected Evolution

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 16:38 +0100, Paulo Crespi wrote: I ran into the same problem after upgrading to evolution 3.2.1 on OpenSuse 12.1 and KDE 4.7.2. After many (in my opinion useless) attempts to solve the keyring issue, I eventually deleted gconf, restarted evolution and set up my mail

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 11:37 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 16:38 +0100, Paulo Crespi wrote: I ran into the same problem after upgrading to evolution 3.2.1 on OpenSuse 12.1 and KDE 4.7.2. After many (in my opinion useless) attempts to solve the keyring issue, I

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 19:41 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: As has been commented several times on this list over the years, none of KDE knows anything about the Gnome keyring. KDE has its own entirely separate keystore, the KDE Wallet. The existence of two subsystems with essentially the

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-04 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 15:32 -0800, John Stile wrote: Every time I start evolution I am prompted for passwords for accounts on one of the IMAP servers. My evolution is configured for multiple IMAP accounts on two different servers. At startup evolution hangs for a long time, but finally

[Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-03 Thread John Stile
Every time I start evolution I am prompted for passwords for accounts on one of the IMAP servers. My evolution is configured for multiple IMAP accounts on two different servers. At startup evolution hangs for a long time, but finally prompts for the passwords, which are already lists as dots, so