Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 21:33 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 21:02 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:3

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > > > > > Backups, time to maintain, bandwidth for the backups, testing when we make > > > changes, people to notify should our Infrastructure get compromised again, > > > etc, the unknown. > > > > Backups really ar

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > > > Backups, time to maintain, bandwidth for the backups, testing when we make > > changes, people to notify should our Infrastructure get compromised again, > > etc, the unknown. > > Backups really are equivalent to disk space. Testing for changes -- > m

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 21:20 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > I don't see why that project would get removed. I really think I'm > > getting misunderstood here. > > I think that part of the misunderstanding is that I don't see "six > months" as equivalent to

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 21:33 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 21:02 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 21:20 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > I don't see why that project would get removed. I really think I'm > getting misunderstood here. I think that part of the misunderstanding is that I don't see "six months" as equivalent to "stale". We're not even to the seven year point of

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 21:02 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Nope, the terms of use are already pretty clear. And no one h

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 21:02 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nope, the terms of use are already pretty clear. And no one has provided > > > a compelling reason to keep these pr

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Nigel Jones
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 22:11 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 20:34 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In general from the infrastructure side I'd say we want t

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 20:34 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In general from the infrastructure side I'd say we want to keep the > >

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 20:34 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In general from the infrastructure side I'd say we want to keep the > > > barrier to enter low but the quality high. C

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nope, the terms of use are already pretty clear. And no one has provided > > a compelling reason to keep these projects around, just lots of > > suggestions on how to keep them a

RE: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Brett Lentz
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:fedora- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike McGrath > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:37 PM > To: Fedora Infrastructure > Subject: RE: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted. > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Brett Lentz wrote: > > > >

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Robin Norwood
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope, the terms of use are already pretty clear. And no one has provided > a compelling reason to keep these projects around, just lots of > suggestions on how to keep them around. Deleted is what we want, not > delisted or

RE: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Brett Lentz wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:fedora- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Norwood > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:11 PM > > To: Fedora Infrastructure > > Subject: Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

RE: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Brett Lentz wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:fedora- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Norwood > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:11 PM > > To: Fedora Infrastructure > > Subject: Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In general from the infrastructure side I'd say we want to keep the > > barrier to enter low but the quality high. Certainly there's projects > > that don't need to be updated ev

RE: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Brett Lentz
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:fedora- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Norwood > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:11 PM > To: Fedora Infrastructure > Subject: Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted. > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Mike McGrath <

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Robin Norwood
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In general from the infrastructure side I'd say we want to keep the > barrier to enter low but the quality high. Certainly there's projects > that don't need to be updated every 6 months but we can identify those and > deal

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Karel Zak
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:35:56PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:02:04PM -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 20:33 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > As explained by mmcgrath, Fedora has a policy to remove _any_ hosted > > > projects that are > > > not a

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Ian Weller wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:35:41PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > This is one of the things we're hoping to prevent with fedorahosted. The > > hope is that the fedorahosted brand will be known for good, active > > projects. Not vaporware. > > > > We'll cer

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Ian Weller
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:35:41PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > This is one of the things we're hoping to prevent with fedorahosted. The > hope is that the fedorahosted brand will be known for good, active > projects. Not vaporware. > > We'll certainly be contacting the project members and let t

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Ian Weller wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 10:20:25PM +0530, Debarshi Ray wrote: > > The thing with Opyum is that its functionality has been very nicely > > ported to PackageKit by one of my friends during this year's Google > > Summer of Code. Fedora 8 still caries Opyum, but

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Ian Weller
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 10:20:25PM +0530, Debarshi Ray wrote: > The thing with Opyum is that its functionality has been very nicely > ported to PackageKit by one of my friends during this year's Google > Summer of Code. Fedora 8 still caries Opyum, but its useless for > Fedora 9 and onwards. I just

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:02:04PM -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 20:33 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > As explained by mmcgrath, Fedora has a policy to remove _any_ hosted > > projects that are > > not altered or updated for last six months. > > Hmmm -- this seems a little

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Debarshi Ray
> As explained by mmcgrath, Fedora has a policy to remove _any_ hosted > projects that are > not altered or updated for last six months. I am pleasantly suprised to see that Opyum is not in that list. :-) The thing with Opyum is that its functionality has been very nicely ported to PackageKit by

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 20:33 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > As explained by mmcgrath, Fedora has a policy to remove _any_ hosted > > projects that are > > not altered or updated for last six months. > > Hmmm -- this seems a little problematic. It's de

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 20:33 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > As explained by mmcgrath, Fedora has a policy to remove _any_ hosted > projects that are > not altered or updated for last six months. Hmmm -- this seems a little problematic. It's definitely possible to have a "mature" project which

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike McGrath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > [1]https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/714 > > So I guess the best thing from here is to send an email to each group > notifying them of what has happened and why we'd like to remove their > project. tell them how to get the code off i

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > This is w.r.t to ticket #714[1]. > > As explained by mmcgrath, Fedora has a policy to remove _any_ hosted > projects that are > not altered or updated for last six months. > > Here is the list of projects, which falls into this category and t

Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread susmit shannigrahi
Hi, This is w.r.t to ticket #714[1]. As explained by mmcgrath, Fedora has a policy to remove _any_ hosted projects that are not altered or updated for last six months. Here is the list of projects, which falls into this category and they will soon be removed. ---

Re: Environments Doc

2008-09-09 Thread Bret McMillan
Mike McGrath wrote: Collab1 is a server focused around our collaboration tools. Right now it has some mailing lists and a sobby server. It will probably also have our pastebin in the future once it gets ready. Cool, definitely sounds like I need to ping you more online about this. Next th