Re: [Flashcoders] MVC style Correction

2012-02-17 Thread Kevin Newman
That idea that the one thing MVC interpretations have in common - that models can only be updated by the controller makes sense. I tried to learn MVC a few times before it really stuck in my head. These where the problems I encountered: - What does MVC apply to? Is it an application level frame

Re: [Flashcoders] MVC style Correction

2012-02-17 Thread Ross Sclafani
Can somebody show me a View class that doesn't update itself? What does it do? Are all of its properties public? Conversely, can someone show me a controller class that does the work of both modifying the model and manipulating the view? Does it lead to a ton of code in one class? I'm not sug

Re: [Flashcoders] MVC style Correction

2012-02-17 Thread Kevin Newman
I just rewatched the video, and it turns out that I forgot about the more complicated version with data sources. But still, if I got it right, the general idea is the controller adjusts the data into the generic formats for generic views (either all at once if you skip the data source glue, or

Re: [Flashcoders] MVC style Correction

2012-02-17 Thread Kevin Newman
Hands down the best explanation of MVC I've ever seen anywhere, is in this iTunes U series (item 43 at the bottom of the list) - you can just grab the slides too, but you'll miss all the emotion and humor of the delivery :-) http://itunes.apple.com/us/itunes-u/ipad-iphone-application-developmen

Re: [Flashcoders] MVC style Correction

2012-02-17 Thread Ben Sand
This is particular to RobotLegs. RobotLegs links a lot of the components in the Context* and then handles dependency injection. Other MVC frameworks may have different approaches, here's a good comparison of Flash MVC frameworks: http://www.slideshare.net/RichardLord/application-frameworks-the-go

Re: [Flashcoders] MVC style Correction

2012-02-17 Thread John McCormack
That is a great picture. Does a controller know an instance of a model? Orr does the model register with the controller as a subscriber for specific data changes or events? Most of all, I wonder how all the parts gets to know each other. John On 17/02/2012 09:11, Ben Sand wrote: maybe this

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-17 Thread Ross Sclafani
I'm firmly against views treating models as anything but read only. Personal preference I guess Ross P. Sclafani Owner / Creative Director Neuromantic Industries http://www.neuromantic.com http://ross.sclafani.net http://www.twitter.com/rosssclafani 347.204.5714 On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:11 PM, "Pet

Re: [Flashcoders] Fwd: MVC

2012-02-17 Thread Peter Ginneberge
Main problem that I see with the code that was posted is that it breaks a major MVC rule and teaches a real bad habit: Views shouldn't have any knowledge of Models Not sure where you get the idea that a View shouldn't communictate with the Model directly: This states otherwise: http://st-ww

RE: [Flashcoders] MVC style Correction

2012-02-17 Thread Cor
Thank you! Another piece of the puzzle is filled in. Best regards, Cor van Dooren -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ben Sand Sent: vrijdag 17 februari 2012 10:11 To: Flash Coders List Subject

Re: [Flashcoders] Sound control problem

2012-02-17 Thread Glen Pike
Hi, I think you need to set the soundTransform of the MovieClip that contains the timeline sound? Also look at the SoundMixer class for "global" controls - you may need the stopAll functionality when you add and remove MC's with sound to/from the stage. Glen On 16/02/2012 19:48, natalia V

Re: [Flashcoders] MVC style Correction

2012-02-17 Thread Ben Sand
maybe this will help: http://www.robotlegs.org/diagram/ the solid lines are method calls, the dashed lines are events On 17 February 2012 18:58, Cor wrote: > Jord, > > This is exactly what I don't understand to do in actionscript! > And that's why I think some example will visualize it to me. >

RE: [Flashcoders] MVC style Correction

2012-02-17 Thread Cor
Jord, This is exactly what I don't understand to do in actionscript! And that's why I think some example will visualize it to me. So I can analyze the flow of it all. Feel free to contact me offlist if you prefer. Best regards, Cor van Dooren -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...