a responsibility to monitor the entirety of the
internet to follow various discussion minutia or unfounded rumors, and
it's not trolling to not assume that responsibility for oneself.
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moral fortitude and professional capability? Please let me
know when the pot is done calling the kettle black, until then I'll be
out back laughing until I hurt.
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(but I seem to remember they would allow GFDL source too).
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of
charitable organizations, so there isn't a lot of direct precedent to
compare to. I doubt any of the larger projects ever get to even 10%
turnout for their various community discussions, and important
decisions are routinely made in the project with far fewer votes then
that.
--Andrew Whitworth
Excellent job organizing this, Mike. I can make it at 21:00 UTC,
although I might be a little bit late. I hope lots of other people can
make it too, since it's at a different time.
--Andrew Whitworth
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Mike.lifeguard
mikelifegu...@fastmail.fm wrote:
From
mailinglist thread that they find disagreeable. This is a
group of people that tend not to make their opinions well-known, but
scarcity is directly proportional to importance here.
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in silence?
That, alone, speaks volumes.
And what response do you want from him? This isn't his problem to solve.
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, then the problems
are likely to be unfixable.
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be the average number of edits from
among the various good or featured articles, since these are the
articles that people are going to want to print/distribute.
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who risks potential problems (and admittedly as an ISP
the WMF's risk is probably very low), it's the people who are being
depicted abusively that are going to have the biggest problems with
these images.
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want to do that if
the authors or copyright owners are unhappy with it.
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Maybe a silly question, but nobody is stopping anyone to copy it to
Wikibooks. The question is mainly, should it be deleted
OKFN hosted an open-textbooks meeting on IRC a while back. I attended,
and I think one or two other Wikibookians attended as well. I haven't
had any contact with them since, but I've wanted to either host or
join another similar meeting with them in the future.
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On Mon, Jan 26
has descended far below the threshold of usefulness
now. If there's nothing else to talk about besides thinly-veiled ad
hominems and I know more philosophy then you mental masturbation,
could this discussion please go off-list?
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financially is not
surprising in this economy either, so I don't know why you even bring
that up.
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in a digital
version of a Kafkaesque nightmare. If your team would stop censoring
WP:BADTHOUGHTS, maybe there wouldn't be such a rush to the media?
So all this time it's been our fault that we get trolled? Shame on the victim!
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handled by a well-designed web interface? Is it better for
reusers to determine what is the best way to give credit, when we can
give credit in a very positive and well thought-out way and let
reusers simply tap into that?
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?
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so if authors want to be benefitted by their work here,
they need to make it happen and not rely on other people properly
applying attribution for them.
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this situation on Wikibooks, I think
we could end up in a situation where different projects could handle
their attribution requirements differently. The situation over there
is sufficiently different for a number of reasons that it's probably
not a good parallel anyway.
--Andrew Whitworth
where the new contributors and
new donation dollars will be heading. I don't want to threaten or mock
here, but I also don't want to see anybody's valuable contributions be
wasted.
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is not reasonable is a wasted exercise: The best we
can do it put the issue to a vote and go with the opinion expressed by
the voting majority.
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organize better then those people do themselves.
Organizers will tell us what's right for them, we do not tell them
what is right for them (although we can always make thoughtful
suggestions).
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it or not, and this has
consequences for us.
And countries are divided into states and provinces and
municipalities, like it or not, and this has consequences for us.
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possibilities, but it's worth noting that
sub-national chapters have these kinds of options.
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like India and Canada,
they also get to be second-class Wikimedians forever? Sure sounds like
a lousy solution to me.
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. The smaller the geographical area
is, the fewer potential members you have, the less money you are
likely to be able to raise, and the fewer outreach activities you will
have available to you.
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to disenfranchise certain groups when it
comes to global educational initiatives.
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to become a member of WMNYC soon.
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and misleading.
2) What national commercial deals?
3) It does not represent a country. It also doesn't represent a
language or a religion or a skin color. These are not important to us.
It does represent a group of active Wikimedians, and this IS important
to us.
--Andrew Whitworth
the hypothetical development of subnational chapters, then
I am relieved. If we are lucky enough to have 4 active chapters in the
south east region of the USA, then this is quite a good problem to
have!
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opinion of them improve? If I called our current chapters sub-global
or sub-continental, would that change your opinion of them too?
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place to do extension testing, and in fact has been used in the
past as a beta test site for new extensions. You can't load just any
software onto Wikipedia and expect the servers to handle it well.
Wikipedia is simply too huge for that kind of avant garde management.
--Andrew Whitworth
, but about scaling them to fit Wikipedia (which
is no trivial task), and ensuring that they meet the needs of our
users. These things don't happen by insulting our developers or making
demands on a mailing list alone.
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editing Wikipedia, but opening up a few back
channels for them to use at the expense of increasing our flow of spam
and vandalism is really not a great solution to any problems.
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collateral damage we are going to sustain. If vandals aim to disrupt
the project, then sweeping range blocks on IPs is victory for them.
No solution is perfect, and the best we can do is to eliminate the
most common cases in a reasonable way.
--Andrew Whitworth
at Wikipedia is awfully short-sighted.
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projects in small languages so we could write learning
resources to teach people the big languages.
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