Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-09-15 Thread Andrew Whitworth
a responsibility to monitor the entirety of the internet to follow various discussion minutia or unfounded rumors, and it's not trolling to not assume that responsibility for oneself. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-09-15 Thread Andrew Whitworth
moral fortitude and professional capability? Please let me know when the pot is done calling the kettle black, until then I'll be out back laughing until I hurt. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderation needed?

2009-09-15 Thread Andrew Whitworth
. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing resolution

2009-05-22 Thread Andrew Whitworth
(but I seem to remember they would allow GFDL source too). --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update vote result

2009-05-21 Thread Andrew Whitworth
of charitable organizations, so there isn't a lot of direct precedent to compare to. I doubt any of the larger projects ever get to even 10% turnout for their various community discussions, and important decisions are routinely made in the project with far fewer votes then that. --Andrew Whitworth

Re: [Foundation-l] [Textbook-l] Another #wikibooks meeting: April 09, 2009 21:00 UTC

2009-04-06 Thread Andrew Whitworth
Excellent job organizing this, Mike. I can make it at 21:00 UTC, although I might be a little bit late. I hope lots of other people can make it too, since it's at a different time. --Andrew Whitworth On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Mike.lifeguard mikelifegu...@fastmail.fm wrote: From

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-04 Thread Andrew Whitworth
mailinglist thread that they find disagreeable. This is a group of people that tend not to make their opinions well-known, but scarcity is directly proportional to importance here. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] FW: [Wikinews-l] Increased incivility at wikinews [en] warning: contains rant

2009-02-05 Thread Andrew Whitworth
in silence? That, alone, speaks volumes. And what response do you want from him? This isn't his problem to solve. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Foundation-l] FW: [Wikinews-l] Increased incivility at wikinews [en] warning: contains rant

2009-02-05 Thread Andrew Whitworth
, then the problems are likely to be unfixable. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Andrew Whitworth
be the average number of edits from among the various good or featured articles, since these are the articles that people are going to want to print/distribute. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Content on Wikimedia

2009-01-30 Thread Andrew Whitworth
who risks potential problems (and admittedly as an ISP the WMF's risk is probably very low), it's the people who are being depicted abusively that are going to have the biggest problems with these images. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Agreement between WMF and O'Reilly Media about Wikipedia: The Missing Manual on Wikipedia?

2009-01-28 Thread Andrew Whitworth
want to do that if the authors or copyright owners are unhappy with it. --Andrew Whitworth On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM, effe iets anders effeietsand...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe a silly question, but nobody is stopping anyone to copy it to Wikibooks. The question is mainly, should it be deleted

Re: [Foundation-l] Open Knowledge Foundation

2009-01-26 Thread Andrew Whitworth
OKFN hosted an open-textbooks meeting on IRC a while back. I attended, and I think one or two other Wikibookians attended as well. I haven't had any contact with them since, but I've wanted to either host or join another similar meeting with them in the future. --Andrew Whitworth On Mon, Jan 26

Re: [Foundation-l] Re-licensing

2009-01-23 Thread Andrew Whitworth
has descended far below the threshold of usefulness now. If there's nothing else to talk about besides thinly-veiled ad hominems and I know more philosophy then you mental masturbation, could this discussion please go off-list? --Andrew Whitworth

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

2009-01-23 Thread Andrew Whitworth
financially is not surprising in this economy either, so I don't know why you even bring that up. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

2009-01-23 Thread Andrew Whitworth
in a digital version of a Kafkaesque nightmare. If your team would stop censoring WP:BADTHOUGHTS, maybe there wouldn't be such a rush to the media? So all this time it's been our fault that we get trolled? Shame on the victim! --Andrew Whitworth

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Whitworth
handled by a well-designed web interface? Is it better for reusers to determine what is the best way to give credit, when we can give credit in a very positive and well thought-out way and let reusers simply tap into that? --Andrew Whitworth

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Whitworth
? --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Whitworth
so if authors want to be benefitted by their work here, they need to make it happen and not rely on other people properly applying attribution for them. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Whitworth
this situation on Wikibooks, I think we could end up in a situation where different projects could handle their attribution requirements differently. The situation over there is sufficiently different for a number of reasons that it's probably not a good parallel anyway. --Andrew Whitworth

Re: [Foundation-l] Re-licensing

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Whitworth
where the new contributors and new donation dollars will be heading. I don't want to threaten or mock here, but I also don't want to see anybody's valuable contributions be wasted. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Re-licensing

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Whitworth
is not reasonable is a wasted exercise: The best we can do it put the issue to a vote and go with the opinion expressed by the voting majority. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-21 Thread Andrew Whitworth
organize better then those people do themselves. Organizers will tell us what's right for them, we do not tell them what is right for them (although we can always make thoughtful suggestions). --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-21 Thread Andrew Whitworth
mention, it is because they do not exist. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-21 Thread Andrew Whitworth
it or not, and this has consequences for us. And countries are divided into states and provinces and municipalities, like it or not, and this has consequences for us. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Whitworth
possibilities, but it's worth noting that sub-national chapters have these kinds of options. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Whitworth
like India and Canada, they also get to be second-class Wikimedians forever? Sure sounds like a lousy solution to me. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Whitworth
. The smaller the geographical area is, the fewer potential members you have, the less money you are likely to be able to raise, and the fewer outreach activities you will have available to you. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Whitworth
to disenfranchise certain groups when it comes to global educational initiatives. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Whitworth
to become a member of WMNYC soon. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Whitworth
and misleading. 2) What national commercial deals? 3) It does not represent a country. It also doesn't represent a language or a religion or a skin color. These are not important to us. It does represent a group of active Wikimedians, and this IS important to us. --Andrew Whitworth

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Whitworth
the hypothetical development of subnational chapters, then I am relieved. If we are lucky enough to have 4 active chapters in the south east region of the USA, then this is quite a good problem to have! --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Whitworth
opinion of them improve? If I called our current chapters sub-global or sub-continental, would that change your opinion of them too? --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-09 Thread Andrew Whitworth
place to do extension testing, and in fact has been used in the past as a beta test site for new extensions. You can't load just any software onto Wikipedia and expect the servers to handle it well. Wikipedia is simply too huge for that kind of avant garde management. --Andrew Whitworth

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-09 Thread Andrew Whitworth
, but about scaling them to fit Wikipedia (which is no trivial task), and ensuring that they meet the needs of our users. These things don't happen by insulting our developers or making demands on a mailing list alone. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing

Re: [Foundation-l] and what if...

2008-12-12 Thread Andrew Whitworth
editing Wikipedia, but opening up a few back channels for them to use at the expense of increasing our flow of spam and vandalism is really not a great solution to any problems. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] and what if...

2008-12-12 Thread Andrew Whitworth
collateral damage we are going to sustain. If vandals aim to disrupt the project, then sweeping range blocks on IPs is victory for them. No solution is perfect, and the best we can do is to eliminate the most common cases in a reasonable way. --Andrew Whitworth

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual images of questionable provenance

2008-12-10 Thread Andrew Whitworth
at Wikipedia is awfully short-sighted. [1] http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=nude+photographyx=0y=0 --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https

Re: [Foundation-l] 80% of our projects are failing

2008-12-01 Thread Andrew Whitworth
projects in small languages so we could write learning resources to teach people the big languages. --Andrew Whitworth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l