Re: right to left languages

2007-07-27 Thread Amnon Yaish
Mellel is fully adapted to multilingual text processing; it is perfect for right to left languages (it is made by an israeli company), and treats beautifully asian languages as well. It is fully Unicode compliant (including SIP characters). It is an excellent word processor, far superior to Word. H

Vertical spacing inconsistencies [more]

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:19 -0500 27/7/07, Peter Gold wrote: >I hope I understand your meaning. If you mean that the inter-paragraph >space varies for the same consecutive paragraphs formats, depending on >where they are within a column or text frame, perhaps one or more of >these options are turned on: Format > Cus

Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:19 -0500 27/7/07, Peter Gold wrote: >I'm not aware of bugs in this area (but there could be). > >I hope I understand your meaning. If you mean that the inter-paragraph >space varies for the same consecutive paragraphs formats, depending on >where they are within a column or text frame,... I

Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:42 -0400 27/7/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote: > >>. Edit the color to C:50, M:100, rest 0 >> >>. I now see Ink name: None, print as spot > >Although your ink name changes when you edit the definition (it doesn't change >here), you can call it whatever you want, I think. Try copying the name bef

Corrupted Word file fixes - was: Converted Word file grows enormously

2007-07-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
Diane, This should go into a FM FAQ somewhere. Alan On 27/07/2007, at 6:28 PM, Diane Gaskill wrote: > Michael, > > I have seen this MANY times. We are converting to FM at my company > now (finally - thank God) but we have many large (400 to 800 page) > Word docs that contain lots of embedd

Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:58 -0400 27/7/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote: >It doesn't here. I just made a new color from the Pantone Uncoated library, >typed in 164, and got a nice red PANTONE 164 CVU. I chose Print as Spot and >changed the CMYK color definition to make 50,100,0,0 purple. Then I formatted >some text in

Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:03 -0400 27/7/07, Art Campbell wrote: >Is the page that you're working on imported from another program? Nope. >Could it have hidden characters? (You have view all text characters >turned on?) Yep. Nothing odd visible. >Does the page print with the same inconsistencies? Not tried. >Is

Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
I'm probably breaking rules here by posting two queries in succession. Sorry. Today is not a good day with FrameMaker. TGIF. I am working up a template, and am seeing visibly inconsistent vertical spacing between headings and body paras in the same document despite the fact that there are no ov

Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:28 -0400 27/7/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote: >I'm confused. What does it matter what the CMYK conversion is? PMS 164 is a >printer's ink mix and there's nothing you can do on your computer to change >that mix. Thanks Kenneth... Quite. However, if you change the spec in FrameMaker to 'corre

Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve: The Friday thing also struck me, it seems. I never got around to suggesting what to ACTUALLY DO at the end of my long analytic look at what possible combined workings of idiosyncratic font height calculation, line height settings there might be to consider. Just ran out of gas. I think

Questions About Structured Frame Applications

2007-07-27 Thread acti...@aol.com
Hello Framers, A while back I posted some questions about creating a Structured Frame application so that we can share xml files between Structured Frame and our XML publishing system that was created in-house. We also have some legacy material in unstructured Frame that we would need to co

Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
FrameMaker 7.0, Mac I have been asked to use Pantone 164 for a design. There appears to be an oddity with FrameMaker's Pantone libraries, which give Pantone 164CVU, for example, as C:0 M:47 Y:76 K:0, which is a browny-orange, instead of the correct purple tint, C:50 M:100 Y:0 K:0, as in, for ex

RE: right to left languages

2007-07-27 Thread Sam Beard
Graeme, I recently bought an issue of a UK Mac magazine that included a CD with a fully licensed version of Mellel on it. I haven't installed it on my system at home, however. I've considered it, but haven't really felt the need to do so at this time. For my written document needs at home, Appl

Re: Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve: The Friday thing also struck me, it seems. I never got around to suggesting what to ACTUALLY DO at the end of my long analytic look at what possible combined workings of idiosyncratic font height calculation, line height settings there might be to consider. Just ran out of gas. I think

Re: Vertical spacing inconsistencies [more]

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:19 -0500 27/7/07, Peter Gold wrote: >I hope I understand your meaning. If you mean that the inter-paragraph >space varies for the same consecutive paragraphs formats, depending on >where they are within a column or text frame, perhaps one or more of >these options are turned on: Format > Cus

Re: Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:19 -0500 27/7/07, Peter Gold wrote: >I'm not aware of bugs in this area (but there could be). > >I hope I understand your meaning. If you mean that the inter-paragraph >space varies for the same consecutive paragraphs formats, depending on >where they are within a column or text frame,... I

Re: Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:42 -0400 27/7/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote: > >>. Edit the color to C:50, M:100, rest 0 >> >>. I now see Ink name: None, print as spot > >Although your ink name changes when you edit the definition (it doesn't change >here), you can call it whatever you want, I think. Try copying the name bef

Questions About Structured Frame Applications

2007-07-27 Thread ActionA
Hello Framers, A while back I posted some questions about creating a Structured Frame application so that we can share xml files between Structured Frame and our XML publishing system that was created in-house. We also have some legacy material in unstructured Frame that we would need to c

Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Steve Rickaby wrote: > . Edit the color to C:50, M:100, rest 0 > > . I now see Ink name: None, print as spot Although your ink name changes when you edit the definition (it doesn't change here), you can call it whatever you want, I think. Try copying the name before you edit the definition, a

Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Steve Rickaby wrote: > What I see is visibly different, over-large, vertical leading between > some, but not all, A, B and C headings and the BodyFirst paras that > follow them. To reiterate, there are *no* para overrides. There are > no master page overrides either. Have you got Baseline Synchr

Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Art Campbell
Steve, Is the page that you're working on imported from another program? Could it have hidden characters? (You have view all text characters turned on?) Does the page print with the same inconsistencies? Is your ini file set to use printer metrics on the display? (And is Adobe PDF set as the defa

Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Steve Rickaby wrote: > Quite. However, if you change the spec in FrameMaker to 'correct' the > mix, it drops the ink name and you get 4-plate in the PDF [quite It doesn't here. I just made a new color from the Pantone Uncoated library, typed in 164, and got a nice red PANTONE 164 CVU. I chose P

Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Steve Rickaby wrote: > I have been asked to use Pantone 164 for a design. There appears to > be an oddity with FrameMaker's Pantone libraries, which give Pantone > 164CVU, for example, as C:0 M:47 Y:76 K:0, which is a browny-orange, > instead of the correct purple tint, C:50 M:100 Y:0 K:0, as in,

Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve: I'm not aware of bugs in this area (but there could be). I hope I understand your meaning. If you mean that the inter-paragraph space varies for the same consecutive paragraphs formats, depending on where they are within a column or text frame, perhaps one or more of these options are

right to left languages

2007-07-27 Thread Sam Beard
Graeme, I recently bought an issue of a UK Mac magazine that included a CD with a fully licensed version of Mellel on it. I haven't installed it on my system at home, however. I've considered it, but haven't really felt the need to do so at this time. For my written document needs at home, Appl

Re: Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve: I'm not aware of bugs in this area (but there could be). I hope I understand your meaning. If you mean that the inter-paragraph space varies for the same consecutive paragraphs formats, depending on where they are within a column or text frame, perhaps one or more of these options are

Re: Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Steve Rickaby wrote: . Edit the color to C:50, M:100, rest 0 . I now see Ink name: None, print as spot Although your ink name changes when you edit the definition (it doesn't change here), you can call it whatever you want, I think. Try copying the name before you edit the definition, and

Re: Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:58 -0400 27/7/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote: >It doesn't here. I just made a new color from the Pantone Uncoated library, >typed in 164, and got a nice red PANTONE 164 CVU. I chose Print as Spot and >changed the CMYK color definition to make 50,100,0,0 purple. Then I formatted >some text in

Re: Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:03 -0400 27/7/07, Art Campbell wrote: >Is the page that you're working on imported from another program? Nope. >Could it have hidden characters? (You have view all text characters >turned on?) Yep. Nothing odd visible. >Does the page print with the same inconsistencies? Not tried. >Is

Re: Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Steve Rickaby wrote: What I see is visibly different, over-large, vertical leading between some, but not all, A, B and C headings and the BodyFirst paras that follow them. To reiterate, there are *no* para overrides. There are no master page overrides either. Have you got Baseline Synchroniza

Re: Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Art Campbell
Steve, Is the page that you're working on imported from another program? Could it have hidden characters? (You have view all text characters turned on?) Does the page print with the same inconsistencies? Is your ini file set to use printer metrics on the display? (And is Adobe PDF set as the defa

Re: Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Steve Rickaby wrote: Quite. However, if you change the spec in FrameMaker to 'correct' the mix, it drops the ink name and you get 4-plate in the PDF [quite It doesn't here. I just made a new color from the Pantone Uncoated library, typed in 164, and got a nice red PANTONE 164 CVU. I chose Pr

Vertical spacing inconsistencies

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
I'm probably breaking rules here by posting two queries in succession. Sorry. Today is not a good day with FrameMaker. TGIF. I am working up a template, and am seeing visibly inconsistent vertical spacing between headings and body paras in the same document despite the fact that there are no ov

Re: Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:28 -0400 27/7/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote: >I'm confused. What does it matter what the CMYK conversion is? PMS 164 is a >printer's ink mix and there's nothing you can do on your computer to change >that mix. Thanks Kenneth... Quite. However, if you change the spec in FrameMaker to 'corre

Ann: TOOLBOX_for FrameMaker 8 | DITA PACKAGE | 3D-Services

2007-07-27 Thread frameus...@systec-gmbh.com
We announce the new TOOLBOX for? FrameMaker 8 ... ... and the SYSTEC DITA PACKAGE the package with all mulitlingual documentation and templates and tools: Get your information: DITA PACKAGE with DITA Cookbook http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/framemaker.php TOOLBOX for? FrameMaker - the TOOLBOX

Re: Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Steve Rickaby wrote: I have been asked to use Pantone 164 for a design. There appears to be an oddity with FrameMaker's Pantone libraries, which give Pantone 164CVU, for example, as C:0 M:47 Y:76 K:0, which is a browny-orange, instead of the correct purple tint, C:50 M:100 Y:0 K:0, as in, for ex

right to left languages

2007-07-27 Thread ric
It would be great if the future FM versions support the Arabic / Persian languages. Presently, we are forcing the FM to create Arabic language by using a Mirrored method, together with customised fonts. It's difficult but still workable as compared to Indesign ME. :) - Ric - Original Messag

Pantone bug?

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
FrameMaker 7.0, Mac I have been asked to use Pantone 164 for a design. There appears to be an oddity with FrameMaker's Pantone libraries, which give Pantone 164CVU, for example, as C:0 M:47 Y:76 K:0, which is a browny-orange, instead of the correct purple tint, C:50 M:100 Y:0 K:0, as in, for ex

Corrupted Word file fixes - was: Converted Word file grows enormously

2007-07-27 Thread Fred Ridder
I have no major issues with anything Diane has said in her very informative posting. But my suggestion is to take a fresh look at your basic strategy for converting from Word to FrameMaker. Directly convering a monolithic Word document to FrameMaker has never made much sense to me because it ignore

right to left languages

2007-07-27 Thread Amnon Yaish
Is there any info on CJK languages support in FM8 ? Amnon.

Converted Word file grows enormously

2007-07-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
Another thought. Is there Word art used anywhere, or any graphics that have been drawn within Word? These use proprietary compression algorithms, which may be decompressed to illustrate their true size. Or, are there special characters (say, embedded math) that are being converted graphics?

Re: ePublisher question

2007-07-27 Thread Chris Borokowski
First - http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/wwp-users/ Second - 1. Go into C:\Program Files\WebWorks\ePublisher Pro\Formats 2. Copy WebWorks Help 5.0 or other source format to a new directory. 3. Modify there according to instructions at webworks.com 4. Change C:\Program Files\WebWorks\ePublisher

ePublisher question

2007-07-27 Thread Chris Borokowski
First - http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/wwp-users/ Second - 1. Go into C:\Program Files\WebWorks\ePublisher Pro\Formats 2. Copy WebWorks Help 5.0 or other source format to a new directory. 3. Modify there according to instructions at webworks.com 4. Change C:\Program Files\WebWorks\ePublisher

RE: Corrupted Word file fixes - was: Converted Word file grows enormously

2007-07-27 Thread Fred Ridder
I have no major issues with anything Diane has said in her very informative posting. But my suggestion is to take a fresh look at your basic strategy for converting from Word to FrameMaker. Directly convering a monolithic Word document to FrameMaker has never made much sense to me because it ignor

Corrupted Word file fixes - was: Converted Word file grows enormously

2007-07-27 Thread Diane Gaskill
Michael, I have seen this MANY times. We are converting to FM at my company now (finally - thank God) but we have many large (400 to 800 page) Word docs that contain lots of embedded drawings, screenshots, and even photos. Documents like this are easily corrupted because Word has some really

Ann: TOOLBOX_for FrameMaker 8 | DITA PACKAGE | 3D-Services

2007-07-27 Thread frameusers
We announce the new TOOLBOX forĀ® FrameMaker 8 ... ... and the SYSTEC DITA PACKAGE the package with all mulitlingual documentation and templates and tools: Get your information: DITA PACKAGE with DITA Cookbook http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/framemaker.php TOOLBOX forĀ® FrameMaker - the TOOLBOX