Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM +, Alexander Best wrote: > you think so? judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact > imo. On Linux. Have you ever seen those sorts of UI problems on FreeBSD? I don't watch much video on my systems, but I haven't seen that. FreeBSD has a

Re: Console options for legacy-free mini-itx server?

2010-11-18 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:07:27 pm Andrew Reilly wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > On 18/11/2010, at 23:59 , John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > You used devinfo -v, so it shows the devices that exist even if they > > > failed > > > to attach. Try j

Re: Call for testers: FPU changes

2010-11-18 Thread Daryl Richards
Not sure if this is the kind of testing you were looking for; but I've run both mprime and boinc/setiathome for the last two days without any problem... It's not a notebook so I can't test suspend/resume.. On 10-11-15 4:13 PM, Kostik Belousov wrote: > Hello, > this is a call for testers of the me

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread David Magda
On Nov 18, 2010, at 18:43, Julian Elischer wrote: we are part of the way there.. at least we did abstract the scheduler to the point where we have two completely different ones. you are welcome to develop a 'framework as you describe and plug it into the abstraction we already have. It

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Nov 18 10, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 11/18/10 3:37 PM, Alexander Best wrote: > >On Fri Nov 19 10, Daniel Nebdal wrote: > >>On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Alexander Kabaev > >>wrote: > >>>On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 + > >>>Alexander Best wrote: > >>> > On Thu Nov 18 10, Matth

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:59:43PM +, Alexander Best wrote: >> >> well i did exactly what they did in the video. watch a 1080p video and move >> the output window around while compiling the kernel. >> > > It is trivial to bring ULE to its k

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/18/10 3:37 PM, Alexander Best wrote: On Fri Nov 19 10, Daniel Nebdal wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Alexander Kabaev wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 + Alexander Best wrote: On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard t

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Alexander Best
On Fri Nov 19 10, Daniel Nebdal wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 + > > Alexander Best wrote: > > > >> On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > >> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of > >> > Alexa

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Daniel Nebdal
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 + > Alexander Best wrote: > >> On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: >> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of >> > Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus: >> > > >> > > judgi

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:59:43PM +, Alexander Best wrote: > > well i did exactly what they did in the video. watch a 1080p video and move > the output window around while compiling the kernel. > It is trivial to bring ULE to its knees. If you have N cores then all you need is N+1 cpu int

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Nov 18 10, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 + > Alexander Best wrote: > > > On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of > > > Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > > > > > judging from th

Re: How to get suspend/resume work on IBM T60?

2010-11-18 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 14:12:23 Bruce Cran wrote: > According to whitelist.c in the linux suspend package, the T60 needs "s3 > bios" and "s3 mode" for the video to work on resume, which I don't think > has been implemented. Actually it looks like "s3 bios" is just a POST of the video card wh

Problem creating mbr partition with gpart

2010-11-18 Thread Krzysztof Dajka
Hi Today I had problem with creating mbr partition on my pendrive. I tried using gpart as I am most familiar with this tool. On clean device I did: [~] # gpart create -s mbr da1 da1 created [~] # gpart add -t mbr da1 gpart: Invalid argument What the heck? In gpart(8) under partition types I ca

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Alexander Kabaev
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 + Alexander Best wrote: > On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of > > Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > > > judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo. > > >

Re: Console options for legacy-free mini-itx server?

2010-11-18 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:07:27 pm Andrew Reilly wrote: > Hi John, > > On 18/11/2010, at 23:59 , John Baldwin wrote: > > > You used devinfo -v, so it shows the devices that exist even if they failed > > to attach. Try just using 'devinfo' and seeing if est1 still shows up. > > OK, you're

Re: Console options for legacy-free mini-itx server?

2010-11-18 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 07:41:02PM -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > On Tuesday 16 November 2010 06:55 pm, Andrew Reilly wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 06:36:16PM -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > > You may try "sysctl hw.acpi.handle_reboot=1". If it works, just > > > add it in /etc/sysctl.conf. > > > >

Re: Call for testers: FPU changes

2010-11-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 11/17/2010 11:35 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote: > > Meantime, the similar change may be beneficial for padlock(4) too. > f you are going to test it, please note that most likely, openssl padlock > engine does not use padlock(4), I do not know for sure. I did some more tests since someone said the

Re: How to get suspend/resume work on IBM T60?

2010-11-18 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 04:20:17 Yue Wu wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD stable on IBM T60, `acpiconf -s 3` can let T60 into > suspend mode, but then it can't be waked up anyhow. > > so my question is, anyone use FreeBSD on IBM T60 and make the > suspend/resume work on it? According to whitelist.c

Re: Console options for legacy-free mini-itx server?

2010-11-18 Thread Andrew Reilly
Hi John, On 18/11/2010, at 23:59 , John Baldwin wrote: > You used devinfo -v, so it shows the devices that exist even if they failed > to attach. Try just using 'devinfo' and seeing if est1 still shows up. OK, you're right: running without -v shows only est0: nexus0 apic0 ram0 acpi0

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/18/10 10:55 AM, Lucius Windschuh wrote: 2010/11/18 Andriy Gapon: [Grouping of processes into TTY groups] Well, I think that those improvements apply only to a very specific usage pattern and are greatly over-hyped. But there are serious issue if you use FreeBSD as a desktop OS with SMP

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread O. Hartmann
On 11/18/10 19:55, Lucius Windschuh wrote: 2010/11/18 Andriy Gapon: [Grouping of processes into TTY groups] Well, I think that those improvements apply only to a very specific usage pattern and are greatly over-hyped. But there are serious issue if you use FreeBSD as a desktop OS with SMP an

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread O. Hartmann
On 11/18/10 19:28, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus: judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo. Well, my (admittedly limited, and certainly anecdotal) experience is that Linux's

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Lucius Windschuh
2010/11/18 Andriy Gapon : > [Grouping of processes into TTY groups] > > Well, I think that those improvements apply only to a very specific usage > pattern > and are greatly over-hyped. But there are serious issue if you use FreeBSD as a desktop OS with SMP and SCHED_ULE, or? Because currently, m

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Alexander Best wrote: > On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of >> Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus: >> > >> > judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo. >> >> Well, my

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Nov 18 10, Rob Farmer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:39, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Frankly, I'm also turned off by the attempt to popup a full page ad in > > addition to the rest of the advertising content which surrounds what is > > nominally supposed to be the real content.  That doe

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of > Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo. > > Well, my (admittedly limited, and certainly anecdotal) experience is >

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM +, Alexander Best wrote: > On Thu Nov 18 10, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > on 18/11/2010 13:04 O. Hartmann said the following: > > > On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote: > > >> Just documenting regarding interactive performance things. > > >> This one's from Linux. >

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus: > > judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo. Well, my (admittedly limited, and certainly anecdotal) experience is that Linux's interactive response when under heavy load w

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:39, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Frankly, I'm also turned off by the attempt to popup a full page ad in > addition to the rest of the advertising content which surrounds what is > nominally supposed to be the real content.  That doesn't mean there is > anything wrong with th

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Alexander Best wrote: > On Thu Nov 18 10, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> on 18/11/2010 13:04 O. Hartmann said the following: >>> On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote: Just documenting regarding interactive performance things. This one's from Linux. http://www

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Nov 18 10, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 18/11/2010 13:04 O. Hartmann said the following: > > On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote: > >> Just documenting regarding interactive performance things. > >> This one's from Linux. > >> > >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_vide

Re: chflags on zfs (sappnd)

2010-11-18 Thread George Mamalakis
On 17/11/2010 21:25, Markus Gebert wrote: On 17.11.2010, at 20:00, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 17/11/2010 18:38 Markus Gebert said the following: On 17.11.2010, at 11:49, George Mamalakis wrote: Hi everbody, from http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS I understand that chflags are supported by zfs. But if

Re: acpi(ca) mfc for 8.2

2010-11-18 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 17/11/2010 20:43 Andriy Gapon said the following: > > I want to do MFC of ACPICA imports to stable/8 before 8.2 release. > This would obviously include commits that fix mismerges or remove obsolete > code. > Plus some other small enhancements/fixes in our ACPI code. > > This is what I current

Re: acpi(ca) mfc for 8.2

2010-11-18 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 18/11/2010 01:07 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > I think I know what's going on. > > Andriy, it seems this change is missing from your patchset (maybe > more): > > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/head/sys/contrib/dev/acpica/utilities/utglobal.c?r1=210976&r2=213806 Jung-uk, thanks a lot

Re: Console options for legacy-free mini-itx server?

2010-11-18 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:46:38 pm Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 11:13 +1100, Andrew Reilly wrote: > > Hi Alexandre, > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 06:56:53PM -0500, Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 10:40 +1100, Andrew Reilly wrote:

[releng_7 tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2010-11-18 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2010-11-18 12:37:22 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-legacy.sentex.ca TB --- 2010-11-18 12:37:22 - starting RELENG_7 tinderbox run for sparc64/sparc64 TB --- 2010-11-18 12:37:22 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2010-11-18 12:37:33 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2010-11-18 12:37:33 - /

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 18/11/2010 13:04 O. Hartmann said the following: > On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote: >> Just documenting regarding interactive performance things. >> This one's from Linux. >> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1 > > Well, > it would be nice to have thos

[releng_7 tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2010-11-18 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2010-11-18 11:13:42 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-legacy.sentex.ca TB --- 2010-11-18 11:13:42 - starting RELENG_7 tinderbox run for ia64/ia64 TB --- 2010-11-18 11:13:42 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2010-11-18 11:13:56 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2010-11-18 11:13:56 - /usr/bi

[releng_7 tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2010-11-18 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2010-11-18 11:24:40 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-legacy.sentex.ca TB --- 2010-11-18 11:24:40 - starting RELENG_7 tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2010-11-18 11:24:40 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2010-11-18 11:24:51 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2010-11-18 11:24:51 - /

Re: TTY task group scheduling

2010-11-18 Thread O. Hartmann
On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote: Just documenting regarding interactive performance things. This one's from Linux. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1 Well, it would be nice to have those improvements in FreeBSD, but I doubt this will make it in due tim

[releng_7 tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98

2010-11-18 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2010-11-18 10:13:29 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-legacy.sentex.ca TB --- 2010-11-18 10:13:29 - starting RELENG_7 tinderbox run for i386/pc98 TB --- 2010-11-18 10:13:29 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2010-11-18 10:13:42 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2010-11-18 10:13:42 - /usr/bi

[releng_7 tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2010-11-18 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2010-11-18 10:02:24 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-legacy.sentex.ca TB --- 2010-11-18 10:02:24 - starting RELENG_7 tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2010-11-18 10:02:25 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2010-11-18 10:02:39 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2010-11-18 10:02:39 - /usr/bi

[releng_7 tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2010-11-18 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2010-11-18 08:50:02 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-legacy.sentex.ca TB --- 2010-11-18 08:50:02 - starting RELENG_7 tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2010-11-18 08:50:02 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2010-11-18 08:50:25 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2010-11-18 08:50:25 - /usr/