Hi,
On 02 June 2012 PM 10:52:48 Chris Rees wrote:
> On 2 June 2012 10:42, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote:
> >> On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky"
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to
> >
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 PM 9:50:22 Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > The point he made was actually not a matter of people not reading
> > UPDATING but that UPDATING is oftentimes not updated until after
> > the disruptive/potentially dangerous change has already hit the
> > ports tree.
> >
> > I'm not
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 PM 2:56:01 Chris Nehren wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 14:11:06 -0400 , Paul Mather wrote:
> > I'm not sure what the solution is for the end user. I know I get
> > somewhat leery of updating my ports if I see a large number of changes
> > coming via portsnap (like the 4000+
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 PM 4:18:45 O. Hartmann wrote:
> On 06/02/12 14:47, Daniel Kalchev wrote:
> > On 02.06.12 15:32, Erich wrote:
> >> I know that the ports tree is a moving target. But it stops moving
> >> during the release period. This could be used to give a fall back
> >> solution.
> >>
> >> O
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 PM 4:07:23 Alexander Yerenkow wrote:
> I'll try to be short.
> I'm using FreeBSD both at servers and as a desktop, but I see
> struggling of my friends with it in some things.
>
> 1. Ports mess. You can very easily render system unusable, or broken
> if you trying to use lates
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:43:43AM +0200, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
> So there could be lots of overlap and just looking at the two numbers
> you posted doesn't really tell the whole story.
No, I agree that it doesn't. I was just trying to add an aside, and
point out that the task would not be trivial
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 PM 3:47:27 Daniel Kalchev wrote:
>
> On 02.06.12 15:32, Erich wrote:
> > I know that the ports tree is a moving target. But it stops moving during
> > the release period. This could be used to give a fall back solution.
> >
> > Or do I see this really too simple?
>
> The por
You wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:20:39PM +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > Maybe FreeBSD should consider migrating to pkgsrc?
>
> I'm not arguing that your other points are invalid (in particular,
> I agree that the xorg change was really painful, and for a long time
> amd64 lagged i386 badly
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On 2 June 2012 10:42, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote:
>> On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky"
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to
>> the releases. This leads to situations in which a small
Hi!
> For example if one wants an e-mail server, that is better
> served in the long run by IMAP+MTA than any form of Exchange, because
> you are not tied to one single platform and that vendor's lunacy.
In the field, many customers are drawn into the world of
Exchange and related technologies
Hi!
> The point he made was actually not a matter of people not reading
> UPDATING but that UPDATING is oftentimes not updated until after
> the disruptive/potentially dangerous change has already hit the
> ports tree.
>
> I'm not sure what the solution is for the end user.
We have our reference
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 14:11:06 -0400 , Paul Mather wrote:
> I'm not sure what the solution is for the end user. I know I get
> somewhat leery of updating my ports if I see a large number of changes
> coming via portsnap (like the 4000+ that accompanied the recent libpng
> upgrade) and there is n
On Jun 2, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Chris Rees wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2012 3:19 PM, "O. Hartmann" wrote:
>>
>> On 06/02/12 14:47, Daniel Kalchev wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02.06.12 15:32, Erich wrote:
I know that the ports tree is a moving target. But it stops moving
during the release period. This c
[Reply-To: advocacy@]
Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> The previous threads before this message should have been on a web form
> or questions@ as they are completely out of control.
Assuming you are referring to the recent "Why I (don't) use FreeBSD"
threads:
Thank you, I agree. I read the first coupl
On Jun 2, 2012 3:19 PM, "O. Hartmann" wrote:
>
> On 06/02/12 14:47, Daniel Kalchev wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 02.06.12 15:32, Erich wrote:
> >> I know that the ports tree is a moving target. But it stops moving
> >> during the release period. This could be used to give a fall back
> >> solution.
> >>
>
--- Sab 2/6/12, O. Hartmann ha scritto:
>
> Since I'm with FreeBSD, StarOffice, OpenOffice and even now
> LibreOffice is a MESS! ...
Can you be more specific about what is wrong with
Apache OpenOffice?
best regards,
Pedro.
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On 1-6-2012 20:57, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
> We used to have FreeBSD exclusively on desktops...
>
> Now, we have migrated to other desktops (mac) with FreeBSD running
> the build and file server...
>
> Why?
>
> Because - the mac updates itself! No pain, no installation,
> no keeping-up with
On 06/02/12 14:47, Daniel Kalchev wrote:
>
>
> On 02.06.12 15:32, Erich wrote:
>> I know that the ports tree is a moving target. But it stops moving
>> during the release period. This could be used to give a fall back
>> solution.
>>
>> Or do I see this really too simple?
>
> The ports tree is a
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I'll try to be short.
I'm using FreeBSD both at servers and as a desktop, but I see
struggling of my friends with it in some things.
1. Ports mess. You can very easily render system unusable, or broken
if you trying to use latest ports. And then you had to became "a port
master" to fix all. Of cou
On 02.06.12 15:32, Erich wrote:
I know that the ports tree is a moving target. But it stops moving during the
release period. This could be used to give a fall back solution.
Or do I see this really too simple?
The ports tree is a moving target during release periods still, although
there
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 PM 2:53:48 Daniel Kalchev wrote:
>
> You don't have to use the (arguable old) 'release' ports tree. Ports get
> fixed/adapted for the new version usually months after release.
>
I think we are talking here about two totally different problems. Your hint
with sysinstall wou
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 PM 12:50:16 David Chisnall wrote:
> On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:19, Erich wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 02 June 2012 PM 12:04:26 David Chisnall wrote:
> >> On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:01, Erich wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would even accept to get the 'release' ports tree without security
> >>> fix
On Sunday, May 27, 2012 06:43:43 PM Sean Bruno wrote:
> I'm trying to understand the newbus and acpi interactions on this Dell
> R620 that result in the Broadcom adapter board being probed "backwards"
> or just plain out of order in comparison to the connector layout and the
> linux tg3 driver.
>
On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:19, Erich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 02 June 2012 PM 12:04:26 David Chisnall wrote:
>> On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:01, Erich wrote:
>>
>>> I would even accept to get the 'release' ports tree without security fixes
>>> just to have a system which is up and running fast after I tried an up
On 02.06.12 12:42, Erich Dollansky wrote:
On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote:
On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky"
wrote:
But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to
the releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic
library
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 PM 12:04:26 David Chisnall wrote:
> On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:01, Erich wrote:
>
> > I would even accept to get the 'release' ports tree without security fixes
> > just to have a system which is up and running fast after I tried an upgrade
> > like what is happening at the moment
On 02.06.12 10:21, Marc Santhoff wrote:
Am Freitag, den 01.06.2012, 13:56 -0400 schrieb Michael R. Wayne:
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:03:26AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please
list those areas with most important firs
On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:01, Erich wrote:
> I would even accept to get the 'release' ports tree without security fixes
> just to have a system which is up and running fast after I tried an upgrade
> like what is happening at the moment with PNG dependent ports.
You have this already. Just install
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 09:19:15PM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote:
> > Pardon my ignorance to not knowing what gluster is, but is this
> > conceptually similar to HAST?
>
> Similar in concept, but different layers in the storage stack.
>
> HAST sits between the physical disks and the filesystem, repli
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 AM 11:39:16 David Chisnall wrote:
> On 2 Jun 2012, at 03:56, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>
> > But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to
> > the releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic
> > library will result in a comp
On 02.06.12 12:27, O. Hartmann wrote:
1a) On "scietific production systems", FreeBSD has been banned due to
the lack of HPC compilers and appropriate mathematical libraries. The
lack of professional/academic support, like that from NAG in the late
1990s, has been droped for FreeBSD as well as
On 2 Jun 2012, at 03:56, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to the
> releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic library
> will result in a complete update of the installed ports. I expressed this
> already m
On 02.06.12 09:23, David Magda wrote:
On Jun 2, 2012, at 00:51, Daniel Kalchev wrote:
On 02.06.2012, at 07:19, Freddie Cash wrote:
Glustre sits above the storage system, replicating data between systems.
So, disks -- ZFS (via Zvols) -- Glustre.
How is this different than ZFS using remote
Hi,
On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky"
> wrote:
> >
> > But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to
> the releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic
> library will result in a complete u
On 06/01/12 21:46, Lars Engels wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 08:32:08PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
>> On 1 June 2012 16:20, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Dear All ,
There is a thread
"Why Are You Using FreeBSD ?"
I think another thread with the specified subject '"
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:12:14PM -0700, Dave Hayes wrote:
>
> 1) I don't use FreeBSD for virtualization as the host OS. I really want
> to, becaus I want to be able to somewhat trust the kernel hosting my
> virtual machines. FreeBSD technology, support, and documentation for
> this idea appears
On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky"
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 30 May 2012 PM 7:20:31 David Chisnall wrote:
> >
> > This is off-topic, so please feel free to disregard it, but I'm sending
it to this list in the hope that it will reach a largish number of users.
> >
> > I am currently looking at u
Am Freitag, den 01.06.2012, 13:56 -0400 schrieb Michael R. Wayne:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:03:26AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
> >
> > If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please
> > list those areas with most important first to least important last ?
>
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