Re: tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-30 Thread Kris Kennaway
Andy Kosela wrote: On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: I think we still have FreeBSD-3.x machines in production. I know we have FreeBSD-4.3. 99.9% of security issues don't affect us. We have our own package system built on top of FreeBSD's pkg_add format and have the ability to

Re: tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-30 Thread Eugene Grosbein
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:26:05PM +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote: It would be easy to maintain 4.x compatibility in Yahoo's package system. They probably only need a relatively small number of ports, and there is no need to stay in sync with changes to the ports infrastructure. Those

Re: tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-30 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: No. Why on earth would we do that? if we wanted to cause ourselves that much pain for no good reason, we'd go get a pencil and stab ourselves in the eye. We don't upgrade machines that have been deployed unless there is a good reason to. This

tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-29 Thread Andy Kosela
On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: I think we still have FreeBSD-3.x machines in production. I know we have FreeBSD-4.3. 99.9% of security issues don't affect us. We have our own package system built on top of FreeBSD's pkg_add format and have the ability to push packages to

Re: tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-26 Thread Peter Wemm
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Jo Rhett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: Correct. We roll our own build snapshots periodically, but we also keep a pretty careful eye on what's going on in the -stable branches. Okay, that makes sense to me ;-) I

tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-25 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jun 23, 2008, at 7:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote: FWIW, Yahoo! tracks -stable branches, not point releases. I'm curious about this (and stealing the dead thread). How does one track -stable in an enterprise environment? I assume that what you mean is we pick points in -stable that we

Re: tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-25 Thread Peter Wemm
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Jo Rhett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 23, 2008, at 7:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote: FWIW, Yahoo! tracks -stable branches, not point releases. I'm curious about this (and stealing the dead thread). How does one track -stable in an enterprise environment? I

Re: tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-25 Thread Claus Guttesen
FWIW, Yahoo! tracks -stable branches, not point releases. I'm curious about this (and stealing the dead thread). How does one track -stable in an enterprise environment? I assume that what you mean is we pick points in -stable that we believe are stable enough and create a snapshot from

Re: tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-25 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Claus Guttesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, Yahoo! tracks -stable branches, not point releases. I'm curious about this (and stealing the dead thread). How does one track -stable in an enterprise environment? I assume that what you mean is we pick points in

Re: tracking -stable in the enterprise

2008-06-25 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: Correct. We roll our own build snapshots periodically, but we also keep a pretty careful eye on what's going on in the -stable branches. Okay, that makes sense to me ;-) I mean, I guess Yahoo has enough resources to literally run every commit