Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: [General-discussion] Graph analysis of stolen credit cards

2006-05-26 Thread Lance James
James Eaton-Lee wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 12:49 +0100, James Eaton-Lee wrote: > >> On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 10:22 +0100, Justin Mason wrote: >> >>> (volume of accounts in thousands). However that's from 7 years >>> ago :( >>> >>> There may be more recent figures but a quick google can't

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: [General-discussion] Graph analysis of stolen credit cards

2006-05-26 Thread James Eaton-Lee
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 12:49 +0100, James Eaton-Lee wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 10:22 +0100, Justin Mason wrote: > > (volume of accounts in thousands). However that's from 7 years > > ago :( > > > > There may be more recent figures but a quick google can't find 'em. > > Wikipedia has some g

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: [General-discussion] Graph analysis of stolen credit cards

2006-05-26 Thread James Eaton-Lee
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 10:22 +0100, Justin Mason wrote: > (volume of accounts in thousands). However that's from 7 years > ago :( > > There may be more recent figures but a quick google can't find 'em. Wikipedia has some good ones on the 'Bank' page: -- James (njan) Eaton-Lee | 10807960 |

[Full-disclosure] Re: [General-discussion] Graph analysis of stolen credit cards

2006-05-26 Thread Justin Mason
hi Lance -- interesting data! It might be worth scaling that against each bank's credit-card issuance volumes, to compensate for their relative sizes. This report -- http://www.chicagofed.org/publications/publicpolicystudies/emergingpayments/pdf/eps-2001-2.pdf -- gives these account volumes fo

[Full-disclosure] Re: [General-discussion] Graph analysis of stolen credit cards

2006-05-26 Thread Lance James
Lance James wrote: > One thing to add: > correction 21,000 cards per 3 months. > This is one group, with 21,000 cards per month (that we know about) and > law enforcement estimates about $500.00 per card in average loss. At > that rate, in 3 months, one carding group causes $10,500,000.00 in los

[Full-disclosure] Re: [General-discussion] Graph analysis of stolen credit cards

2006-05-26 Thread Lance James
One thing to add: This is one group, with 21,000 cards per month (that we know about) and law enforcement estimates about $500.00 per card in average loss. At that rate, in 3 months, one carding group causes $10,500,000.00 in loss. And this carding group is at the low end of the totem poll. Lanc