Hello All,
After many years (10+) of hosting the user mailing list at SEUL, the
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DJ has graciously volunteered to host two new gEDA mailing lists on
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1) A new list called: geda-help
The geda-help mailing list is for people seek
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> b) The names of the copper groups in
> File -> Preferences -> Groups
>
> c) The help text in
> File -> Preferences -> Info
patch atttached for the preference dialog
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On 09/18/2011 09:01 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
This patch replaces "component" and "solder" in the leftmost item of the
status line of the GTK HID with "top" and "bottom".
Thanks for work to improve the GUI Kai-Martin.
JG
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DJ Delorie wrote:
> From the user's point of view, we use top/bottom [hopefully]
> consistently.
There are at least three places in the GTK-GUI that still expose
"solder/component":
a) The first item on the left in the status line, which gives a
hint on the side the canvas shows. (patch attac
On 09/18/2011 08:16 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> You're +1'ing something we already have,
Whoops.
On 09/18/2011 08:16 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
So... go get the release and test it
OK. There's another unfinished/overdue project on my to do list...
I will attempt to swap sleep/insomnia for executing p
> > DJ's clarification aside, I would vote for "top/bottom", with each
> > of those symbolically being placed in the list. That is, for an
> > 8-layer default: Top, Layer 2, Layer 3, ..., Layer 7, Bottom
>
> +1
You're +1'ing something we already have, and not what Kai was taking
about. From th
On 09/18/2011 10:04 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote:
Well, C itself doesn't seem to be used too much outside of> 10 year
old code. Nowadays the language du jour seems to be Python, and C is
only used for library-type projects that want many language bindings.
IMHO everything should be Lisp.;)
:-)
JG
On 09/18/2011 07:56 PM, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote:
DJ's clarification aside, I would vote for "top/bottom", with each of those
symbolically being placed in the list. That is, for an 8-layer default: Top, Layer 2,
Layer 3, ..., Layer 7, Bottom
+1
JG
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 01:24:51 +0200
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Just got fooled by the classic solder/component vs top/bottom, again.
> It just won't stick with me, that "solder" is supposed to be a synonym
> to "top".
DJ's clarification aside, I would vote for "top/bottom", with each of those
s
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 08:47:36PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
> > Still unhappy with moderation of geda-user.
> > Why? Because it is completely intransparent.
>
> Please do not mix your political agenda with technical questions.
>
In Kai's defense, his message was in his signature, which
is cle
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 01:24:51AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Just got fooled by the classic solder/component vs top/bottom, again.
> It just won't stick with me, that "solder" is supposed to be a synonym
> to "top". I addressed the issue before about a year ago:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gm
> It just won't stick with me, that "solder" is supposed to be a
> synonym to "top".
Good, because "solder" is a synonym for "bottom". ;-)
> Still unhappy with moderation of geda-user.
> Why? Because it is completely intransparent.
Please do not mix your political agenda with technical questi
Just got fooled by the classic solder/component vs top/bottom, again.
It just won't stick with me, that "solder" is supposed to be a synonym
to "top". I addressed the issue before about a year ago:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.geda.user/31354/focus=31356
Consensus seemed to be that top/b
PCB 20110918 has been Released! Many thanks to everyone who put
effort into this release, from the huge new feature sets to the
tiniest doc fixes, every little bit helps! This release saw about
three times the number of commits over the previous two releases, and
many first-time contributors
> Is there a serious road block?
Yes - the code just doesn't work. The PCB window is very messed up,
including no menus or sidebar and a misaligned crosshair.
> Can I tell potential users that this will most likely be rectified
> on a reasonable time frame -- Say in, in a few months?
Official
On 09/18/2011 11:04 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote:
Well, C itself doesn't seem to be used too much outside of> 10 year
old code. Nowadays the language du jour seems to be Python, and C is
only used for library-type projects that want many language bindings.
For "web apps" and other "trendy" stuf
DJ Delorie wrote:
>> Is the above the exact syntax ?
>
> PCB follows the GNU coding standards,
(.. snip ..)
> The only exception, usually, is comments
Is this also true for the c portion of gschem, gnetlist, gerbvierw, etc. ?
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DJ Delorie wrote:
>> The most obvious difference between the windows version of PCB and
>> the one built for linux is transparency. Why is this so?
>
> We couldn't get it working correctly in time.
Is there a serious road block?
Can I tell potential users that this will most likely be rectified
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:06:49PM -0700, Jared Casper wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> >> I assume there are PCB devs that prefer the gnu style?
> >
> > 1. I prefer GNU style. Emacs automatically does this style when
> > coding, too.
> >
Initially I hated it, but
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>> I assume there are PCB devs that prefer the gnu style?
>
> 1. I prefer GNU style. Emacs automatically does this style when
> coding, too.
>
Good enough. Note that Emacs automatically does whatever style you
tell it to, including the linux
> I assume there are PCB devs that prefer the gnu style?
1. I prefer GNU style. Emacs automatically does this style when
coding, too.
2. GNU style seems to be popular elsewhere too, which reduces the
learning curve for many new developers
3. Historically, that's what we've used.
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Peter Clifton wrote:
> Just for the record, I don't like PCB's code formatting style myself
> either ;)
>
I assume there are PCB devs that prefer the gnu style? Or is it only
enforced to be consistent with all the legacy code?
Jared
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> Can the style conventions be found anywhere in a halfway comprehensive
> written form?
http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/
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> The most obvious difference between the windows version of PCB and
> the one built for linux is transparency. Why is this so?
We couldn't get it working correctly in time.
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> Is the above the exact syntax ?
PCB follows the GNU coding standards, Run the source through "indent"
and it should come out correct.
The only exception, usually, is comments (since we build docs from
them) and table-formatted structure data, since GNU style creates much
more whitespace than w
Hi, congrats too,
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Darryl Gibson
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:45 PM
> To: gEDA user mailing list
> Subject: gEDA-user: Happy 20th
>
> Happy Birthday to Linux,
> Can the style conventions be found anywhere in a halfway comprehensive
> written form?
http://astyle.sourceforge.net/
Better would be to write a AStyle configuration file, that matches the
standard style of the code, that could then be applied to
the code so all of it is completely self-consist
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> provides accelerated drivers for windows.
> Wouldn't openGL "just work" in such an environment?
GLEW is typically used:
http://glew.sourceforge.net/
You can find an example of its usage in the Toped project:
http://toped.org.uk/
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Peter Clifton wrote:
> PCB mostly has a consistent style, and we won't apply patches which
> don't follow that.
>
> Two space indents,
>
> if (test)
> {
> statements (like, this);
> }
> else
> {
> even_if_they_ARE_horrid ();
> }
Can the style conventions be found anywhere in a halfway comprehen
Happy Birthday to Linux, 20 years old today. (9/17)
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The most obvious difference between the windows version of PCB and
the one built for linux is transparency. Why is this so? If I read
the opengl description correctly, all windows versions should be
able to deal with opengl commands even if a driver for hardware
acceleration is missing. And of
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 01:25 -0700, Jared Casper wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Bert Timmerman
> wrote:
> >> PCB mostly has a consistent style, and we won't apply patches
> >> which don't follow that.
> > This is the next patch on my todo list.
> >
> > Is the above the exact syntax ?
> >
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Bert Timmerman
wrote:
>> PCB mostly has a consistent style, and we won't apply patches
>> which don't follow that.
> This is the next patch on my todo list.
>
> Is the above the exact syntax ?
>
No worries, I changed the style in the first place (when a good chunk
Hi all,
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Peter Clifton
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:16 AM
> To: geda-user@moria.seul.org
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: help with pcb dsn plugin
>
> On Fri, 2011-09-
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