Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Berin Loritsch
Nick Chalko wrote: > >>-Original Message- >>From: Rich Persaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:26 PM >>To: Jakarta General List >>Subject: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ??? >> >>Preferred pain is a known pain with an experience-based cap. >>

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Berin Loritsch
Daniel Rall wrote: > Berin Loritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Pier Fumagalli wrote: >> >>>On 8/10/02 1:30 am, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> on 2002/10/7 5:21 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >JSPs are the "root of all evil" be

Re: About bug handling survey

2002-10-10 Thread A. Gunes Koru
On 10 Oct 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 10:39, A. Gunes Koru wrote: > > I am also in this list and I don't see the number of surveys blooming. > > This is totally an incorrect statement. The e-mails I sent is related to > > the questions at the very heart of development. S

Re: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
"Santiago Gala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You're assuming, of course, that you can't have commercial software that >> *is* open source :-). Such models do exist -- so I'm assuming you are >> primarily talking about closed source commercial software. > > This is a very meaningful distinction

Re: About bug handling survey

2002-10-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 10:39, A. Gunes Koru wrote: > > Dear Andy, > > First of all, I would prefer to discuss these matters individually not on > the list. However, because you are sending e-mails to the list I need to > write it to the list too. > Then you might have taken my smartassed rema

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Just goes to show you. A sad comment on software development: The only thing worse than our still crappy tools for doing things are our crappy methods of doing them. -Andy On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 10:38, Steve Downey wrote: > >From Scott Adams > Wally: I recommedend we build a tracking database.

About bug handling survey

2002-10-10 Thread A. Gunes Koru
Dear Andy, First of all, I would prefer to discuss these matters individually not on the list. However, because you are sending e-mails to the list I need to write it to the list too. I am also in this list and I don't see the number of surveys blooming. This is totally an incorrect stateme

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Steve Downey
From Scott Adams Wally: I recommedend we build a tracking database. Dilbert: We could put it on the network! PHB: Wouldn't you like to know what the problem is first? Dilbert: We like databases. Databases get used in lots of wrongheaded ways. No argument. But OO people tend to fall into the othe

RE: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Tom Copeland
Since we're OT already, I have to interject a good Jamie Zawinski database quote: === It was a hard sell, since he's a database person, and as far as I've seen, once those database worms eat into your brain, it's hard to ever get anything practical done again. To a database person, every

Re: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-10 Thread Santiago Gala
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: >On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Danny Angus wrote: > > > >>Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:45:48 +0100 >>From: Danny Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20