[gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-10 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, I think we're mostly aware what the use and benefits of the *use.stable.mask files are. They would be at least really useful in Python ebuilds, where we have to either: a) forcedly stabilize a particular Python implementation (like pypy), b) don't support it all, c) or just keep two pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/12/12 04:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > I think we're mostly aware what the use and benefits of the > *use.stable.mask files are. > > They would be at least really useful in Python ebuilds, where we > have to either: > > a) forcedl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:01:34 -0500 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 10/12/12 04:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I think we're mostly aware what the use and benefits of the > > *use.stable.mask files are. > > > > They would be at l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-10 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled wrapper > profiles which will provide the *use.stable.mask files. Require users > to migrate to those profiles after getting an EAPI 5 capable package > manager (how?). Possibly mask the re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled wrapper > > profiles which will provide the *use.stable.mask files. Require users > > to migrate to those profiles after getting a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-11 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/11/2012 01:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled wrapper >>> profiles which will provide the *use.stable.mask files. Require use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:25 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > On 12/11/2012 01:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 > > Zac Medico wrote: > > > >> On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled wrapper > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-12 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/12/2012 01:32 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:25 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 12/11/2012 01:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 >>> Zac Medico wrote: >>> On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > 1) duplicate most of the m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: > > Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just > > the same. Except for the fact that it will be a bit cleaner, not require > > EAPI=5 at all and probably make arch testing a bit easier for a few > > people. > > Soun

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: > > > Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just > > > the same. Except for the fact that it will be a bit cleaner, not require > > > EAPI=5 at all an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > >> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just the same. Except for the fact that it will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 13 December 2012 21:46, Zac Medico wrote: > On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 >> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: >> >>> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: > Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:38:24 + Markos Chandras wrote: > On 13 December 2012 21:46, Zac Medico wrote: > > On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 > >> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > >> > >>> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 14 December 2012 14:29, Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:38:24 + > Markos Chandras wrote: > >> On 13 December 2012 21:46, Zac Medico wrote: >> > On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> >> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 >> >> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: >> >> >> >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Remind me and the list again pls, why is this necessary rather than just using use.stable.mask and EAPI5 ebuilds in the regular profiles? This shouldn't break the tree with a non-EAPI5 portage as the files would just be ignored, as would the EAPI5 eb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:36:49 + Markos Chandras wrote: > On 14 December 2012 14:29, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:38:24 + > > Markos Chandras wrote: > > > >> On 13 December 2012 21:46, Zac Medico wrote: > >> > On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> >> On Thu,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:39:56 -0500 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > Remind me and the list again pls, why is this necessary rather than > just using use.stable.mask and EAPI5 ebuilds in the regular profiles? > This shouldn't break the tree with a non-EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 14 December 2012 14:59, Michał Górny wrote: > >> We already have plenty of understaffed arches, I don't think it is >> wise to throw more responsibilities to them. Unless of course all >> developers are allowed to touch these *stable* profiles which >> personally I don't like because arches wil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:08:24 + Markos Chandras wrote: > On 14 December 2012 14:59, Michał Górny wrote: > > > >> We already have plenty of understaffed arches, I don't think it is > >> wise to throw more responsibilities to them. Unless of course all > >> developers are allowed to touch these