Re: [Gimp-developer] Documentation of the GIMP-1.3 internals

2003-08-18 Thread Carol Spears
-- GObject GimpBaseConfig GimpCoreConfig GimpDisplayConfig GimpGuiConfig GimpPluginConfig GimpRc GimpObject Gimp GimpViewable GimpData GimpBrush GimpBrushGenerated

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 02.31 schrieb Sven Neumann: > I think I explained the reasoning in my last mail. Oh well, let me do it > again then... This does *not* make sense. > The helpbrowser will have to choose the language based on > the users locale, it thus needs to know how the files are organi

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 01.35 schrieb Sven Neumann: > I have a plan but I felt it's up to you to provide a sample XML mapping > file and some sample help pages for us to play with. Let's discuss this XML mapping, I'm still clueless... > What I care about is how the generated HTML files in differen

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 02:03, Daniel Egger wrote: > > The helpbrowser will have to know about this > > I can't see a reason why, unless you want to mix languages, but even > then one can point to a different directory, so... I think I explained the reasoning in my last mail. Oh well, let me

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 00.44 schrieb Sven Neumann: > From looking at the CVS module I didn't have the impression that the > file structure is prepared for i18n. If you decided to keep all > translations of a topic together in the same file that's fine, but > shouldn't the C directory be completely

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:52, Daniel Egger wrote: > I though you had a plan? Since I couldn't convince you to render DocBook > directly as yelp does it sounded pretty much like you would know how to > realise your mapping idea. I'd be more than happy to discuss any > additional infrastructure

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2003-08-18 um 23.54 schrieb Sven Neumann: > The discussion about the new help system stopped at some point and we > haven't outlined a detailed plan yet. I though you had a plan? Since I couldn't convince you to render DocBook directly as yelp does it sounded pretty much like you would kn

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: gimp-help2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 00.15 schrieb Branko Collin: > > Didn't work for GIMP 1.2 so I doubt it will here. We haven't received > > a single contribution for the help in whatever form; maybe the "Eek" > > scared people off or something... > Do you mean the following text? Yeah, that was the eek tex

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 23:50, Daniel Egger wrote: > At the moment we're at full speed towards some usable content both in > English and German. Roman is doing a fantastic job in translating and > filling the gaps and Dave greatly helped drawing some attention. >From looking at the CVS module I

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, sorry for catching up late on this thread. I failed to follow it while being mostly offline during camp preparation. Roman Joost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. The German Umlauts are really annoying. Are there some > pre-processors, which checks the umlauts and replaces them with a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: gimp-help2

2003-08-18 Thread Branko Collin
On 21 Jul 2003, at 19:27, Daniel Egger wrote: > Am Mon, 2003-07-21 um 17.23 schrieb Sven Neumann: > > > We could setup some text that is displayed for all missing pages and > > that explicitely encourages people to write help on this topic. > > Didn't work for GIMP 1.2 so I doubt it will here. We

Re: [Gimp-developer] Allow Maximise in Dialogs, like in Paint ShopPro 8

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 20:30, Tom Mraz wrote: > > Please file it against metacity. > But don't hope for fix because Havoc won't allow to change > this *#$! behaviour. Well, I really don't see what The GIMP could do about this but of course I might be missing something important. We don't disa

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 20:12, Roman Joost wrote: > I think, that Daniel Egger and Mel Boyce setup the newer gimp-help-2 > module. For this reason, i think that Daniel know exactly what he is > doing, to get a good documentation done. I am sure that Daniel knows what he is doing but I am afraid

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2003-08-18 um 18.38 schrieb Sven Neumann: > I think we should discuss how to proceed with the help system for gimp2. At the moment we're at full speed towards some usable content both in English and German. Roman is doing a fantastic job in translating and filling the gaps and Dave greatl

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Branko Collin
On 18 Aug 2003, at 20:25, Raphaël Quinet wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:12:06 +0200, Roman Joost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> I'll setup up some pages for the module, but where >> can i upload these pages? A good way to update the >> status of the docs is an account, where i can sync >> my hel

Re: [Gimp-developer] Allow Maximise in Dialogs, like in Paint Shop Pro 8

2003-08-18 Thread Tom Mraz
Sven Neumann wrote: The imagemap plug-in creates a TOPLEVEL window while most other GIMP dialogs are of type DIALOG and I think this is correct. Any WM that thinks that dialog windows shouldn't have minimise and maximize buttons is probably on crack. I've always thought the same about metacity whic

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:12:06 +0200, Roman Joost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll setup up some pages for the module, but where can i upload these pages? > A good way to update the status of the docs is an account, where i can > sync my help and the help docs on the server. > If it isn't possible t

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Roman Joost
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:40:14PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: > I don't really care. I just wanted to be sure that you considered using > these tools. If you dislike them and decided to go for a different > solution, I'm fine with that. I think, that Daniel Egger and Mel Boyce setup the newer gimp-

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 19:15, Roman Joost wrote: > Maybe you mean, writing the translation to *.po files? I saw this, > during the work on a new setup of a zope server. We used "Plone" and they > translated all these english stuff into other languages using *.po files. I > don't know which wil

[Gimp-developer] Documentation of the GIMP-1.3 internals

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, there is something I hacked up during GimpCon and I thought it might be of interest to some of you although it's not yet finished (and perhaps never will be): If you have a working gtk-doc setup that is able to handle DocBook/XML you can now generate documentation for the app directory and its

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Roman Joost
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 06:38:06PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: > Translation of the help pages is another subject that should be > discussed beforehand. I don't think the current approach of translating > the XML source in place will scale well when the number of translations > increases. There are

[Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, I think we should discuss how to proceed with the help system for gimp2. I saw that Roman started to work on a german translation and of course I am happy about this since it means that something happens. However I think that it doesn't make much sense to blindly work on the help pages until w