[H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Thane Sherrington
This is lovely. The new MS rule on regenerating Auth numbers for people with CDs and lost numbers. You fax in a proof of purchase (must be a receipt) and pay then $15 and if you call the US number, they'll generate the number and call back in FOUR WEEKS! Here in Canada, it's FOUR to SIX week

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thane Sherrington wrote: This is lovely. The new MS rule on regenerating Auth numbers for people with CDs and lost numbers. You fax in a proof of purchase (must be a receipt) and pay then $15 and if you call the US number, they'll generate the number and call back in FOUR WEEKS! Here in Cana

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: [H] New MS rule This is lovely. The new MS rule on regenerating Auth numbers for people with CDs and lost numbers. You fax in a proof of purchase (mu

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:58 AM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: US number, they'll generate the number and call back in FOUR WEEKS! Here in Canada, it's FOUR to SIX weeks! So if you've lost your auth number, you're screwed. Does anyone see this as simply a drive to make people to upgrade to XP. Yes. Also,

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Al
Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's all true, but the fact remains that people who have legally > purchased the software are being penalized for being human. I have no > problem with the proof of purchase or the $15, Penalty being the proof and the $15. >but the time frame

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
> Does anyone > see this as simply a drive to make people to upgrade to XP. > And a drive for an easy $15 ;-)

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread CW
ECTED] Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:00:23 -0500 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New MS rule > > Does anyone > > see this as simply a drive to make people to upgrade to XP. > > > > And a drive for an easy $15 ;-) >

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread j m g
gt; > CW > > > -Original message- > From: "G.Waleed Kavalec" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:00:23 -0500 > To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] New MS rule > > > > Does anyone > > > see

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:25 PM 05/05/2005, CW wrote: Seriously (and here's where I will get catcalls) this is why I wish MS -did- have a way to force more people to literally upgrade; If you're still running Win98, etc. I'd prefer they almost say "sorry, we don't support that product at all anymore" They do for Wi

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thane Sherrington wrote: But MS doesn't allow aftermarket, so that's not a fair comparison. If all I do is Word Processing and Email, why should I have to upgrade my Pentium 233 to XP (which would require a hardware upgrade as well?) Keeping the auth number generator software costs MS nothing,

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:38 PM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: How can you be sure the support time is really covered by $15? These problems go away of the customer keeps up with their own info... Hmmm... underpaid Indian worker gives fax number to caller - 3 minutes looks at fax - 1 minute Loads keygen progra

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
On 5/5/05, Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:38 PM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > >How can you be sure the support time is really covered by $15? These > >problems go away of the customer keeps up with their own info... > > Hmmm... > underpaid Indian worker gives fax

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:38 PM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: How can you be sure the support time is really covered by $15? These problems go away of the customer keeps up with their own info... Hmmm... underpaid Indian worker gives fax number to caller - 3 minutes looks at fax - 1

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:54 PM 05/05/2005, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote: > Hmmm... > underpaid Indian worker gives fax number to caller - 3 minutes > looks at fax - 1 minute > Loads keygen program - 30 seconds > presses "Generate Key" - 2 seconds > Writes down key number in email or letter to be faxed - 1 minute > Sends fa

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:54 PM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You really think those are all the costs involved? The generated income must pay for *all* costs involved... Oh Christ, Anthony, you win. MS is losing billions a year on this stuff, I'm sure. T --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude A

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:54 PM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You really think those are all the costs involved? The generated income must pay for *all* costs involved... Oh Christ, Anthony, you win. MS is losing billions a year on this stuff, I'm sure. It it were a profit winner,

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread CW
p.com Subject: Re: [H] New MS rule > At 02:25 PM 05/05/2005, CW wrote: > >Seriously (and here's where I will get catcalls) this is why I wish MS > >-did- have a way to force more people to literally upgrade; If you're > >still running Win98, etc. I'd prefer they alm

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "CW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [H] New MS rule OK, I guess I've just missed the point. Can anyone show me a single instance where MS has prosecuted a home

RE: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Chris Reeves
(note: this is for Windows98 only, and applies for initially legally valid copies) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:59 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] New MS rule OK, I guess I've just misse

RE: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Chris Reeves
ns of people who have a key you can "use" then they ought to charge you $ for wasting their time ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:37 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re:

RE: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-06 Thread Michael Decker
It'll either make people upgrade or make people use a fake/pirated/stolen number. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:57 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New MS rule Th

Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck

2005-05-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
FORC5 wrote: customers should NOT need numbers, KEYS SUCK. and always have IMO >:-} I agree.

Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck

2005-05-05 Thread FORC5
customers should NOT need numbers, KEYS SUCK. and always have IMO >:-} At 06:58 AM 5/5/2005, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with: Thane Sherrington wrote: This is lovely.  The new MS rule on regenerating Auth numbers for people with CDs and lost numbers.  You fax in a proof of purchase (must b

Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck

2005-05-05 Thread Francisco Tapia
I'm comming into this conversation way late... So are they charging for the KEY or the authentication number?On 5/5/05, Anthony Q. Martin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FORC5 wrote: customers should NOT need numbers, KEYS SUCK. and always have IMO >:-} I agree. -- -Franciscohttp://pcthis

Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck

2005-05-05 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "FORC5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck Yes. Also, customers shouldn't lose those numbers. Why don't vendors simply put a sticker on