I'm trying to optimize the following program:
http://github.com/feuerbach/particles/blob/303c8a17c9b732e22457b5409bdce4b7520be94a/run.hs
Of course general suggestions are welcome (BTW I'm going to give a try
to vector), but currently I'm concerned with two questions:
1. Heavy allocations in
* Roman Cheplyaka r...@ro-che.info [2010-06-17 12:40:59+0300]
I'm trying to optimize the following program:
http://github.com/feuerbach/particles/blob/303c8a17c9b732e22457b5409bdce4b7520be94a/run.hs
Of course general suggestions are welcome (BTW I'm going to give a try
to vector), but
I mean that a link [[X]] leads to HaskellWiki if X exists in HaskellWiki
and to Wikipedia otherwise. Interwiki links requires to change all
occurrences of [[X]] when X is created.
|[[wikipedia:|{{PAGENAME}}|]]| may be handy on existing pages, it
provides a link to additional material.
On
I do not agree. They are not confused by other languages, they treat all
languages as born equal. Do not forget, mathematics is the common source
of knowledge for all programmers, creating our separate source of
knowledge leads to isolationism and narrow-minded vision. If my words
are too
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Marc Weber wrote:
Hi Aditya Siram,
- maybe shell scripting: running ghci takes longer than starting bash.
Compiling is not always an option because executables are bigger than
shell scripts or C executables
Is Hugs better in this respect?
Hi list,
I'm facing a really tough problem. About 3 years ago I stopped doing
freelance and quite nicely paid projects in Java, PHP and C#.
Now I'm dire straits, again, and need to get back into the project
market which seems to have picked up again, quite a lot of projects out
there and it
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Henning Thielemann
lemm...@henning-thielemann.de wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Marc Weber wrote:
Hi Aditya Siram,
- maybe shell scripting: running ghci takes longer than starting bash.
Compiling is not always an option because executables are bigger than
Become the farmer. The life in village brings advantage for health more.
(I too am serious. :) )
2010/6/17 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
Hi list,
I'm facing a really tough problem. About 3 years ago I stopped doing
freelance and quite nicely paid projects in Java, PHP and C#.
Now I'm
2010/6/17 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
Anyway the problem is that I am totally reluctant to code in anything else
but haskell. It has always been a problem to me getting up early in the
You're not alone.
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On Thursday 17 June 2010 11:43:09, Roman Cheplyaka wrote:
* Roman Cheplyaka r...@ro-che.info [2010-06-17 12:40:59+0300]
I'm trying to optimize the following program:
http://github.com/feuerbach/particles/blob/303c8a17c9b732e22457b5409bd
ce4b7520be94a/run.hs
Of course general suggestions
Maybe you should trying getting on Scala or Clojure projects ? Though they
aren't many of them for now :(
2010/6/17 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de
Hi list,
I'm facing a really tough problem. About 3 years ago I stopped doing
freelance and quite nicely paid projects in Java, PHP and C#.
2010/6/17 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
Hi list,
I'm facing a really tough problem. About 3 years ago I stopped doing
freelance and quite nicely paid projects in Java, PHP and C#.
Now I'm dire straits, again, and need to get back into the project market
which seems to have picked up
Haven't tried this, but maybe it can help you... Online freelance jobs search
engine, I'ts supposed to be good...
http://www.donanza.com/
Good Luck $$$,
Hector Guilarte
Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry.
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From: Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de
Date:
Hi all,
I was afraid of that.
The tenor here is there is no way to get off haskell so either do
woodwork or try to get a haskell job.
:(
Günther
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On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:17 , David Virebayre wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Henning Thielemann
lemm...@henning-thielemann.de wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Marc Weber wrote:
Hi Aditya Siram,
- maybe shell scripting: running ghci takes longer than starting
bash.
Compiling is not always
Hi,
Keep in mind that you have to invest some time in learning Haskell
before you can reap the benefits. For an example of the latter, see also
Paul Hudak, Mark P. Jones.
Haskell vs. Ada vs. C++ vs. Awk vs. ...,
An Experiment in Software Prototyping Productivity
On 17 June 2010 16:12, Patrick LeBoutillier
patrick.leboutill...@gmail.com wrote:
This paper was very interesting to me. Does anyone know if the full source
code
for the Haskell prototype is available somewhere?
Chapter 8 of Paul Hudak's School of Expression contains a version of
the region
If you're willing to use Haskell as a synonym for FP of sorts, you
can now get cool jobs writing Scala -- e.g. Sony uses it to manage all
of their disk farms; Clojure is awesome, although very different
(dynamic and macro); and Jane Street is always hiring in New York,
London and Tokyo doing
At this very moment I'm struggling with fitting a huge graph of
Twitter communications into a Haskell program. Apparently it gets
into a loop freeing memory. As I suspected, JVM garbage collector got
more testing than Haskell at this scale; since not many people load it
up as much, it may be
On 17.06.10 12:40, Roman Cheplyaka wrote:
From reading core I got the impression that everything is strict
unboxed. Perhaps this is related to creating some closures? How to get
rid of those allocations?
Yes, distance creates a closure of type @Double - Double# - Double@
which is obviously
Another way to be happy is to get a family to support, then any idea
of making a quick pfennig with C# and then luxuriating in Rio with a
laptop full of Haskell will only work if your company goes public! :)
-- Alexy
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deliverable:
At this very moment I'm struggling with fitting a huge graph of
Twitter communications into a Haskell program. Apparently it gets
into a loop freeing memory. As I suspected, JVM garbage collector got
more testing than Haskell at this scale; since not many people load it
up as
* Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de [2010-06-17 16:27:01+0200]
On Thursday 17 June 2010 11:43:09, Roman Cheplyaka wrote:
* Roman Cheplyaka r...@ro-che.info [2010-06-17 12:40:59+0300]
I'm trying to optimize the following program:
(Looks like my previous reply didn't go through yet) -- yes, we're
working on it! :)
Cheers,
Alexy
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On Jun 17, 12:20 pm, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
Did you talk to Simon Marlow yet? Unlike the JVM, we provide direct
access to the GC developers when you run into trouble. :)
Yes -- Simon's very helpful, he showed how to identify the loop and
debug it further. Hopefully we'll work
:)
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The functional-object style seems to be gaining momentum.
Is there any way to convert monads into objects, so that beginners
have an easier time with the syntax and thus we can attract more
people to the language?
:)
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:45:16 -0400
cas...@istar.ca wrote:
:)
Objection!
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/BASIC
A simplified version of the original BASIC embedded in Haskell.
--
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aditya siram wrote:
But I wanted to ask people are more experienced with Haskell - what
kinds of problems is it unsuited for?
Judging by the other thread, getting hired might be a valid answer here...
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Don Stewart wrote:
Did you talk to Simon Marlow yet? Unlike the JVM, we provide direct
access to the GC developers when you run into trouble. :)
Surely the GHC developers are amoung the busiest people on the planet
though...
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I'll work with Simon to investigate the runtime, but would welcome any
ideas on further speeding up cafe4.
Just a wild guess, but those foldWithKeys make me nervous.
The result is strict, the step function tries to be strict, but if
you look at the code for Data.IntMap.foldr, it doesn't really
No argument there - I'm even afraid to stick it on my resume. At least
Clojure can be snuck into the JVM without people noticing - Haskell,
unfortunately, is not that shy.
-deech
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Andrew Coppin
andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote:
aditya siram wrote:
But I wanted
Since folks got interested, I've added a doc/ subdirectory (on the
intern branch) with a PDF defining my karmic social capital
mathematically. It is this definition which is faithfully computed
both in Clojure and Haskell.
I've also added a LICENSE file basically stating that this research is
to
aditya siram wrote:
No argument there - I'm even afraid to stick it on my resume. At least
Clojure can be snuck into the JVM without people noticing - Haskell,
unfortunately, is not that shy.
Oh, I don't know... Few companies will want you to *use* Haskell, but
lots of people seemed to be
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 01:38:23PM -0500, aditya siram wrote:
Judging by the other thread, getting hired might be a valid answer here...
No argument there - I'm even afraid to stick it on my resume. At least
Clojure can be snuck into the JVM without people noticing - Haskell,
unfortunately,
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On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:35 , Roman Cheplyaka wrote:
That's exactly what I'm asking about. 'abs' in C does not require any
allocations, does it? So why does it require any allocations in
Haskell,
assuming we've got no lazyness, typeclass
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Darrin Chandler
dwchand...@stilyagin.comwrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 01:38:23PM -0500, aditya siram wrote:
Judging by the other thread, getting hired might be a valid answer
here...
No argument there - I'm even afraid to stick it on my resume. At
Hello all
The standard map function applies a single function to a list of arguments.
But what if I want to apply a list of functions to a single argument. I can
of course write such a function, but I wonder if there is a standard way of
doing this,
Related to that is the problem, that the
On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Martin Drautzburg wrote:
The standard map function applies a single function to a list of
arguments.
But what if I want to apply a list of functions to a single
argument. I can
of course write such a function, but I wonder if there is a standard
way of
doing
Martin.Drautzburg:
Hello all
The standard map function applies a single function to a list of arguments.
But what if I want to apply a list of functions to a single argument. I can
of course write such a function, but I wonder if there is a standard way of
doing this,
map ($ 2)
Martin Drautzburg wrote:
Hello all
The standard map function applies a single function to a list of arguments.
But what if I want to apply a list of functions to a single argument. I can
of course write such a function, but I wonder if there is a standard way of
doing this,
The magical
Martin Drautzburg wrote:
The standard map function applies a single function to a list of arguments.
But what if I want to apply a list of functions to a single argument.
So your list of arguments is actually a list of functions. But since
functions are first-class values, that shouldn't be
listFs = [f1, f2, f3]
map ($ x) listFs -- same as [f1 x, f2 x, f3 x]
f x y z = ...
map (\x - f x u v) xs
On 17 Jun 2010, at 23:02, Martin Drautzburg wrote:
Hello all
The standard map function applies a single function to a list of
arguments.
But what if I want to apply a list of functions
Martin Drautzburg martin.drautzb...@web.de writes:
Hello all
The standard map function applies a single function to a list of arguments.
But what if I want to apply a list of functions to a single argument. I can
of course write such a function, but I wonder if there is a standard way of
map (\function - function argument) functions
map ($ argument) functions
map (\firstArgument
- function firstArgument secondArgument thirdArgument) xs
On 17.06.10 22:02, Martin Drautzburg wrote:
Hello all
The standard map function applies a single function to a list of arguments.
But what
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:01:53PM -0700, David Leimbach wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Darrin Chandler
dwchand...@stilyagin.comwrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 01:38:23PM -0500, aditya siram wrote:
Judging by the other thread, getting hired might be a valid answer
here...
On 17.06.10 19:12, Roman Beslik wrote:
On 17.06.10 12:40, Roman Cheplyaka wrote:
From reading core I got the impression that everything is strict
unboxed. Perhaps this is related to creating some closures? How to get
rid of those allocations?
Yes, distance creates a closure of type @Double -
Günther Schmidt gue.schmidt at web.de writes:
So how does one get off haskell? Are there people in similar situations
that have managed? How did you do it?
Günther
Same feelings here. I work in a company that uses C++/Java and the best I could
manage was to use Haskell for
Excerpts from Paul Lotti's message of Thu Jun 17 15:33:30 -0400 2010:
Same feelings here. I work in a company that uses C++/Java and the best I
could
manage was to use Haskell for prototyping and then deliver in Java. This
worked
out twice so far. The downside is having to translate it
So how does one get off haskell? Are there people in similar situations
that have managed? How did you do it?
I used to get annoyed about all the java boilerplate and awkwardness.
But then I learned that if I relax and stop thinking so much about the
aesthetics of what I'm writing, I can just
I'm trying to receive small segments of Haskell code over a socket, and be
able to evaluate them in real time in GHCI.
I've already downloaded Hint and have run the test code, and it's working
great. I'm also using the socket server code from Ch.27 of Real World
Haskell
and that is working well
cas...@istar.ca writes:
The functional-object style seems to be gaining momentum.
Is there any way to convert monads into objects, so that beginners
have an easier time with the syntax and thus we can attract more
people to the language?
I seriously have no idea what you're talking about
If you want to use cool languages, you may have to get a cool job. I
know: it's easy to say and harder to accomplish.
Most functional languages (e.g. Lisp, Haskell, ...) have a challenging
time in industry since they require some savvy with multiple levels of
higher abstractions and some
http://icfpcontest.org/2010/
will start roughly 12 hours from now.
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At CREATE-NET we're hiring Haskellers. If you fancy working in Trento
(Italy) and you have experience, apply here. Try these trivial
questions http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=26317 The
question list doesn't indicate expertise but it does filter out
newbies. Don't bother if you
Andrew Coppin wrote:
aditya siram wrote:
No argument there - I'm even afraid to stick it on my resume. At least
Clojure can be snuck into the JVM without people noticing - Haskell,
unfortunately, is not that shy.
Oh, I don't know... Few companies will want you to *use* Haskell, but
Hi Tom,
There is probably more than one way to do this. Did you try using the
package hint-server? [1] It has a very simple interface: you start a
server and obtain a handle; then you can run an interpreter action
using the handle. Something like this:
runIn handle (interpret msg (as
I share this just for the sake of fun.
In Costa Rica (Central America) a new series of bills are to be
emitted and to celebrate bio-diversity some animal drawings are going
to be used. Look at the new 10.000 colones bill:
http://www.bccr.fi.cr/WebPages/PaginaInicio/NuevaFamilia/10.html
Choose
Hello All,
I'm trying to get up and running with the very interesting llvm
package[1] but I'm running into problems during the linking stage.
ke...@sugarglider-2:~/projects/third-party/llvm-hs-bindings/examples/
make clean all
rm -f HelloJIT Fibonacci BrainF Vector Array DotProd Arith Align
On Jun 17, 2:36 pm, Claus Reinke claus.rei...@talk21.com wrote:
I'll work with Simon to investigate the runtime, but would welcome any
ideas on further speeding up cafe4.
Just a wild guess, but those foldWithKeys make me nervous.
The result is strict, the step function tries to be strict,
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Roman Beslik ber...@ukr.net wrote:
I mean that a link [[X]] leads to HaskellWiki if X exists in HaskellWiki
and to Wikipedia otherwise. Interwiki links requires to change all
occurrences of [[X]] when X is created.
[[wikipedia:{{PAGENAME}}]] may be handy on
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Erik de Castro Lopo
mle...@mega-nerd.commle%2...@mega-nerd.com
wrote:
Andrew Coppin wrote:
aditya siram wrote:
No argument there - I'm even afraid to stick it on my resume. At least
Clojure can be snuck into the JVM without people noticing - Haskell,
Hello Leonel,
Friday, June 18, 2010, 6:46:31 AM, you wrote:
to be used. Look at the new 10.000 colones bill:
and this one - http://www.bccr.fi.cr/WebPages/PaginaInicio/NuevaFamilia/5.html
is for C++ programmers :)
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Hello Martin,
Thursday, June 17, 2010, 11:02:31 PM, you wrote:
But what if I want to apply a list of functions to a single argument. I can
one more answer is swing map:
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Pointfree#Swing
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