Re: Upgrading from 3590B to 3590H

2008-01-20 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, Thanx to everyone who replied The drives are not in an ATL and we will not be going to FICON. Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET I

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-20 Thread Bill Neiman
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:10:47 +0100, Barbara Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >before I take this offline, let me say this: >Last time I checked structure sizes (back in September last year), the location of the sizer was somewhere else (it also looked different), so in the first place, I had a ha

Tony West is out of the office.

2008-01-20 Thread Tony West
I will be out of the office starting 21/01/2008 and will not return until 04/02/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. ___ Unencrypted electronic mail is not secure and may not be authentic. If you have an

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread David Logan
You are of course correct, a TS will set to all ones. I had forgotten. Apologies. CS is the instruction you would want to use in all cases. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne & Lynn Wheeler Sent: Sunday, January 2

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Logan) writes: > While all of that is interesting, and useful in its own right, none of that > matters when a you want to perform a simple a

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Logan) writes: > While all of that is interesting, and useful in its own right, none of that > matters when a you want to perform a simple a

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread David Logan
While all of that is interesting, and useful in its own right, none of that matters when a you want to perform a simple atomic "test and set" of a the posted bit in an ECB. Both instructions are atomic for this purpose. You're not going to have any threading problems when using either instruction

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Binyamin Dissen wrote: In the past (370 pre PLO), CS was the only way to do this function. While it certainly is possible for IBM to rewrite WAIT/POST to use the PLO instruction, I certainly doubt that such a code change will occur. Especially since PLO and CS do not serialize each other's

Re: BPXOINIT shutdown failure

2008-01-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Yuhas wrote: The following contains excerpts the SYSLOG from a shutdown from Saturday night, 1/19: F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKS [snip] What do I do now to end BPXOINIT? I would abandon the idea of selectively shutting down forked procedures in favor of just simply shutting down OMVS

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Logan) writes: > Test and set works just fine too. They are both atomic. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#31 How does ATTACH pas

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread David Logan
Test and set works just fine too. They are both atomic. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne & Lynn Wheeler Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does ATTACH pass address

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin) writes: > This is the Principles of Operation; it is not the Assembler Services > manual. Note carefully the "provided that" clau

Re: Upgrading from 3590B to 3590H

2008-01-20 Thread R.S.
גדי בן אבי wrote: Hi, We received an offer to upgrade our 3590B's to 3590H's. If we go along with this upgrade, would I have to make any changes in the IO configuration? No changes in, unless you upgrade from ESCON to FICON also. However, assuming you have the drives in IBM ATL (3494), you

Re: Upgrading from 3590B to 3590H

2008-01-20 Thread Russell Witt
Gadi, You don't mention if these drives are inside an ATL or not. That will make a slight difference. If they are inside an OAM managed IBM robot, you need to turn on a "compatibility" indicator (CA-1 always sets this indicator on, so it might already be on). This means that for compatibility purp

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Peter Relson
To summarize, since all the appends I have read through have been correct, For the ECB mentioned in ATTACH,EP=CHILD,ECB=ECB1 WAIT ECB=ECB1 DETACH (R1) the answer to the subject question is: "You don't". The child should not be looking at this ECB. This ECB is for use by the system when the attach

Re: BPXOINIT shutdown failure

2008-01-20 Thread Michael Saraco
If you got the all available functions complete to shut down JES I would not be to worried about it. That is normal to see that when you do a D OMVS,ASID=ALL after BPXAS FORK SERVICE has been shutdown. D OMVS,ASID=ALL BPXO040I 18.41.50 DISPLAY OMVS 454 OMVS 000E FORK SHUTDOWN OMVS=(00,FS)

Re: CFW with Syncsort

2008-01-20 Thread Art Celestini
As I indicated, my primary exposure to this stuff was when CFW and DFW were first introduced. At that time, the respective caches were comparatively small. What I found was that once the cache was "flooded," the control unit would "hold off" new writes (delay execution of the channel program righ

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread David Logan
The bottom line is that one task needs to be suspended until some event occurs. WAIT causes MVS to suspend the task until the ECB is posted POST causes MVS to resume the task that has been waiting. If you ignore the chatter that has been going on, this is the basis of the system. Task "A" must wai

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
I was curious for what reason or when one would use the POST macro. I've been reading this bit in the docs, but it isn't quite clear, yet. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2A670/6.1 I'm quite clear on how to use ATTACH and WAIT now, thank to all who helped me. -O

Re: Upgrading from 3590B to 3590H

2008-01-20 Thread Jim Phoenix
If your existing drives are FICON attached, probably not. If ESCON attached, you really want to go FICON. A single 3590H drive, with compressible data on tape, can easily outperform ESCON throughput. 3590 drives always read/write in streaming mode. For the drive to be constantly stopping th

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:07:07 -0600 Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:38:15 -0500, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: :>>A.6.3.1 Bypass Post Routine :>>http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DZ9ZR003/A.6.3.1?SHELF=DZ9ZBK03&DT=20040504121320&CASE= :>>fr

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread David Logan
The answer to your first paragraph is: Yes. -- Except that the ECB isn't passed in as a parameter, nor should it be. You would have to pass that address to your attached task as part of a parameter list, but I can't think of any reason you would do that.

Re: CFW with Syncsort

2008-01-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Terry, So you're saying that with IBM Storage, CFW is not remitted to the Remote Storage. If you turn it off then it just becomes another DFW. With HDS this was always an option. BTW, CFW will be destaged to disk just like any other write. A cache Fast write is only written to Cache and not NVS

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Let me see if I am understanding it all. There really isn't a need for the daughter task to POST because the system does automatically when the daughter process ends. And just about the only information that the daughter can get from the ECB is whether the parent has issued a WAIT or not. I fo

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:38:15 -0500, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > >A.6.3.1 Bypass Post Routine >http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DZ9ZR003/A.6.3.1?SHELF=DZ9ZBK03&DT=20040504121320&CASE= > >from above: > >The following routine allows the SVC "POST" as used in MVS/ESA to be >b

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:00:41 +0100, Lindy Mayfield wrote: >Ok, thanks, I see now. ATTACH doesn't put it there automatically, I put >it there unless I use a parameter list, and then I would make it a part >of that list. > Now that you can find it, what use can you make of it? You shouldn't POST i

Re: CFW with Syncsort

2008-01-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 1/18/2008 8:52:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, SyncSort does use CFW. I wrote the code myself in a previous life, 17 or so years ago. However, IIRC, there may be circumstances where it is turned off due to other performance consideration

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Ok, thanks, I see now. ATTACH doesn't put it there automatically, I put it there unless I use a parameter list, and then I would make it a part of that list. That makes sense. I guess the docs assume a certain level of competence on my part. (-: Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Larry Crilley
Not sure if someone responded or not... When the daughter is entered, the ECB address will be off of R1. L R2,0(,R1) R2 should now have the address of the ECB. You can use this to POST different return codes, should your logic require it. Larry Crilley Dino-Software Corporation 800.4

After more fixes and more features, QA can not find more easy errors (MFNetDisk).

2008-01-20 Thread Shai Hess
These are the FIXINFO.DOC's updates. Stress tests are running now without any problems using the 3 MFNetDisk modes all together (Sync, ASync and FastSync). I am sure that there are more bugs, but I need your help to find the bugs. We need more tests, different computers, different OS, different

Upgrading from 3590B to 3590H

2008-01-20 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, We received an offer to upgrade our 3590B's to 3590H's. If we go along with this upgrade, would I have to make any changes in the IO configuration? Would I have to reinitialize the tapes, or would that happen automagically? We are running z/OS 1.7 and CA-1 v11.5. TIA Gadi --

Re: IDC3009I return code *5*??

2008-01-20 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 15:34 -0600, Dave Kopischke wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:28:28 -0500, David Andrews wrote: > >NONVSAM --- ..'{... ..2. > I've seen something similar to this before. Are these catalog component or > cluster names ??? Certainly not curren

Re: z890 2086-160 w/ 2 IFLs on eBay

2008-01-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
>My question is: If you have two z890s, A with 1 CP and 1 IFL and B with 2 >IFL, then in a disaster where A is under a pile of rubble, can you get IBM >to turn on a CP and an IFL in B and still pay the same price for z/OS & z/VM? Yes, although it's a good idea to contract for that in advance using