Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-30 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Do we need to think of why a horse may not want to speed up, and get to >>> the cause, before reverting to a whip to encourage it? Absolutely. Liz does a section in some of her clinics about "finding the joy" in our lives as a way to get our energy up, to get the horses to move out more e

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-30 Thread Janice McDonald
well like my jas. he is just lazy and I always let him get away with it. its such a petty offense when I ride with so many heathens. but stonewall oh jeez he needs to learn things bad. janice

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-30 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>Its just with a cue from behind they are magically being pushed, instead of >>>having cues from the seat or on their sides, which I do not believe are >>>really intuitive for a horse to get especially in the beginning of their >>>training. OK, I can see it for horses that aren't finished in

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-30 Thread Lynn Kinsky
> Oh come one - I'm a huge Gene Autry fan. I never carry a whip with > Hunter, > but every now and then he just goes to sleep under me (can't believe > I'd > ever write that) and short of cutting a switch off a tree, the only > thing I > have at hand it the short bight on my reins, which I do i

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-30 Thread Nancy Sturm
with jas in times when I had to ask him to really move it I swung the reins from one side of withers to the other. like gene autry hyi! Oh come one - I'm a huge Gene Autry fan. I never carry a whip with Hunter, but every now and then he just goes to sleep under me (can't believe I'd ever

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-30 Thread Janice McDonald
asking teev to go fast I would kick and he would put his ears back, forward, back like " wait lets get this straight... you are telling MOI what to do?! " then would sorta launch into the next gear like "hold on to your dentures granny" haha. man his canter was powerful. I saw my donkey do a rare

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-30 Thread Janice McDonald
with jas in times when I had to ask him to really move it I swung the reins from one side of withers to the other. like gene autry hyi! hyi! chasing banditos. it made him burst into a blistering 2 mph land speed record, an all time personal high. janice

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-30 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never use it to hit them, only as an aid for proper > cues. It just seems like it is more natural for a horse to > learn aids from behind. > Interesting. I haven't heard this before. > Which cues are from behind? The ones that say

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-29 Thread Janice McDonald
> > Interesting. I haven't heard this before. > > Which cues are from behind? waving the whip in the air toward nasi's butt as I pony him and he starts to lag behind. Other than that I guess it is tapping the butt to make them go? I always just tap with the feet. Janice-- even good horses have

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-29 Thread Judy Ryder
> Well, I ride with a small whip with 2 of my horses. Some of Baldurs cues are > from behind, and it is much easier with a whip than not to have one. > I never use it to hit them, only as an aid for proper cues. It just seems > like it is more natural for a horse to learn aids from behind. I

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-29 Thread Janice McDonald
Linda Tellington Jones has a white riding whip that is very nice to ride with. << they are good for ponying too. For holding out in case the ponied horse wants to pass too forward or wave like Skye said, from behind to get them to quit dragging and make slack in the rope. But hey Skye, Jeffers

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-29 Thread Janice McDonald
funny how if i smack jas on the shoulder for snatching bites, he puts his ears back a little and swishes his tail. Or if really maddern fire will snake his head a little. But I can whack a yellowfly between his ears with all my might and he doesnt notice it at all. :) Yes, they are masters at per

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-29 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Interesting topic on the dressage list, with this comment: > > "... interesting that the riders I have ridden with or > taught and that have had trouble holding a whip saying "It is distracting > and too much in my hands" are the on

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-29 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> i think a coincidence... because i ride with a crop and if it doesnt have >>> a handle it >>> is a huge pita to me! But i need one for brushing spider webs out of the >>> way and >>> whacking jas when he snatches bites off blueberry bushes. I tend to think it coincidence too. When I wa

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-29 Thread Nancy Sturm
But i need one for brushingspider webs out of the way and whacking jas when he snatches bites off blueberry bushes. The girl I ride with uses hers for spider webs, to push berry vines out of the trail and to brush flies off her horse's face. I've never seen her use it in any other way. M

Re: [IceHorses] Riding With a Whip

2008-06-28 Thread Janice McDonald
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting topic on the dressage list, with this comment: > > "... interesting that the riders I have ridden with or taught and that have > had trouble holding a whip saying "It is distracting and too much in my > hands" are