Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-24 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:01 AM, Dan Armbrust wrote: > Go ahead.  I challenge you.  Fill out a random PDF form using Okular. > Make a backup of said filled out form.  Now, lets see you open that I don't like the design either. > And X days later, when someone else shows up with a PDF file that h

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-24 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> I think the real solution is to fix poppler so store the annotations in >> the Document according to the PDF standard  (and use one of the adhoc >> tricks to store annotations in PS files). This is what every user ... > You're

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-24 Thread Dan Armbrust
> Kevin Krammer > Weird, I seem to have backed up my email and browser form completion data > without actually knowing where these programs store them. > But maybe Okular's data is so different that I would escape the same backup > procedure that work for other programs. Time will tell. Go ahead.

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-23 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Monday, 2012-01-23, Dan Armbrust wrote: > > If storing data to prefill form fields would be considered malware, > > people would have a hard time browsing the Internet since malware > > removal tools would have deinstalled all incarnations of browsers > > already. > > One minor point. A PDF vi

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-22 Thread Duncan
Kevin Krammer posted on Mon, 23 Jan 2012 01:43:30 +0100 as excerpted: > My guess is at least 4.10 but I find even 4.11 likely. > An important fact here is that while during "KDE4" times the split of > names or terminology around KDE products was mostly cosmetic, "KDE5" > will very likely make actu

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-22 Thread Dan Armbrust
> If storing data to prefill form fields would be considered malware, people > would > have a hard time browsing the Internet since malware removal tools would have > deinstalled all incarnations of browsers already. One minor point. A PDF viewer is not web browser. Its much more like a documen

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-22 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2012-01-17, Duncan wrote: > Kevin Krammer posted on Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:08:31 +0100 as excerpted: > > On Sunday, 2012-01-15, Dan Armbrust wrote: > >> > Hmm. Most software with autocompletion support does that. E.g. > >> > browsers, > >> > email programs. > >> > >> They also ask your pe

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-17 Thread Duncan
John McCabe-Dansted posted on Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:18:58 +0800 as excerpted: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> Actually, I wonder if this idea could get a bit more traction in view >> of the new ksecrets thing?  That'd play off the whole fascination with >>

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-17 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Actually, I wonder if this idea could get a bit more traction in view of > the new ksecrets thing?  That'd play off the whole fascination with the > new and shiny technology thing, instead of being seen as the drudge-work > tha

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-16 Thread Duncan
Kevin Krammer posted on Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:08:31 +0100 as excerpted: > On Sunday, 2012-01-15, Dan Armbrust wrote: >> > Hmm. Most software with autocompletion support does that. E.g. >> > browsers, >> > email programs. >> >> They also ask your permission first. > > Interesting. Neither Konqueror

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-15 Thread David
It is an important issue. Specially under countries protecting personal data by law, like spain for example in where law says personal data belongs to the person it refers to instead of the company or program having it. Despite it being free software I think it should be fair at least protecting th

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-15 Thread Martin (KDE)
Am 15.01.2012 18:08, schrieb Kevin Krammer: > On Sunday, 2012-01-15, Dan Armbrust wrote: >>> Hmm. Most software with autocompletion support does that. E.g. browsers, >>> email programs. >> >> They also ask your permission first. > > Interesting. Neither Konqueror, Firefox, KMail or Thunderbird hav

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-15 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2012-01-15, Dan Armbrust wrote: > > Hmm. Most software with autocompletion support does that. E.g. browsers, > > email programs. > > They also ask your permission first. Interesting. Neither Konqueror, Firefox, KMail or Thunderbird have asked me whether I wanted to store form data. Ca

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-15 Thread Dan Armbrust
> Hmm. Most software with autocompletion support does that. E.g. browsers, email > programs. They also ask your permission first. And they have an off switch. And, they definitely don't autocomplete fields which are know to contain private info - aka - passwords. Unless you go through another di

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-15 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2012-01-14, Dan Armbrust wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > > When introducing a new party to a converstation, in this case the KDE > > user mailinglist, it is usually very helpful to provide context to said > > new party. > > > > When the discussion h

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-14 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 16:03, Dan Armbrust wrote: >> Dan, I understand you are frustrated. But this here doesn't help to >> solve the problem. In fact it makes it a lot less likely that Albert >> or one of the other Okular developers will work on it. So ultimately >> you are hurting your case. >>

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-13 Thread Dan Armbrust
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > When introducing a new party to a converstation, in this case the KDE user > mailinglist, it is usually very helpful to provide context to said new party. > > When the discussion has happened on one mailinglist so far, a good way to do > tha

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-13 Thread Kevin Krammer
When introducing a new party to a converstation, in this case the KDE user mailinglist, it is usually very helpful to provide context to said new party. When the discussion has happened on one mailinglist so far, a good way to do that is to provide a link to the discussion start in the original

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-13 Thread Dan Armbrust
> > Dude.. if you spent half as much time submitting a patch, as you did > complaining about the issue, it would be fixed yesterday.. > > Quit complaining, you aren't paying for this software. Fix it yourself, or > stop using it. > > No one cares just because you want to whine like a spoiled little

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-13 Thread Chuck Burns
On 1/13/2012 9:03 AM, Dan Armbrust wrote: Dan, I understand you are frustrated. But this here doesn't help to solve the problem. In fact it makes it a lot less likely that Albert or one of the other Okular developers will work on it. So ultimately you are hurting your case. Now let's move this fo

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-13 Thread Dan Armbrust
> Dan, I understand you are frustrated. But this here doesn't help to > solve the problem. In fact it makes it a lot less likely that Albert > or one of the other Okular developers will work on it. So ultimately > you are hurting your case. > Now let's move this forward constructively, please. Ther

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-10 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Dan Armbrust wrote: > So, you have proven that you don't take a security issue seriously. To be fair, fixing this bug wouldn't stop sensitive information appearing in swap. Sensitive information also has a tendency to appear in /tmp and /var as well. The EFF recom

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-10 Thread Dan Armbrust
> Sorry, I can't say that, i know it exists, I've known it for ages, i just > don't feel it is the next think i have to do in my life (next thing is getting > my Kindle and reading some stuff), if you think it is important, do it > yourself or get some money and hire someone to fix it, i know a few

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-10 Thread Dan Armbrust
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > Want me to unsubscribe you from the list? Reached this point in what the only > thing you want to do is harass me i think it is the only sensible thing to do. > > Albert > Now _there_ is a mature response. Users report a serious data

Re: [kde] [Okular-devel] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

2012-01-09 Thread Dan Armbrust
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:26 PM, wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267350 > >--- Comment #1 from Jackson Peacock >2011-04-04 03:11:36 --- >I just noticed the same issue. I had stored some filled out forms on an >encrypted drive. I ran into a bug where the fields I entered didn't we