On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 08:56, Martin Friebe wrote:
> To heat the discussion up:
> From the wiki:
>>
>>
>> Watches/Local variables/Registers
>>
>> All three are a lists of name/value pairs used at debug time.
>>
>> They should be merged together in a single list with appropriate
>> filtering c
Hi Leonardo:
I run Lazarus 0.9.27 in Ubuntu 9.04 without problem (GTK2). But i run
Windows XP in VirtualBox and some applications are very slow and take
the CPU to 100%.
I tried VMPlayer and it works very well. I think that there are some
bugs in VirtualBox that remains from old versions.
Tr
Leslie Kaye schrieb:
> Pleas do not have docking in the UI!!! It might look cool bot it is a
> pain to use and program.
Program what?
> Windows accidentally un-dock and attach to your mouse then end up
> anywhere so you spend ages trying to get it back to how it was.
This happens only with th
2009/5/6 Héctor Fiandor Rosario :
>
> I read the documentation mentioned about gif, but really, I dont feel sure
> to do that.
That is only meant for creating animated gifs for the wiki page - not
for embedding them into your application.
> I want to attach the "running leopard" in my applicatio
2009/5/6 Héctor Fiandor Rosario :
>
> I read the documentation mentioned about gif, but really, I dont feel sure
> to do that.
That is only meant for creating animated gifs for the wiki page - not
for embedding them into your application.
> I want to attach the "running leopard" in my applicatio
To heat the discussion up:
From the wiki:
>
>
> Watches/Local variables/Registers
>
> All three are a lists of name/value pairs used at debug time.
>
> They should be merged together in a single list with appropriate
> filtering capabilities.
>
That would make debugging so much harder.
Let's
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
wrote:
> only QT/GTK based apps, which don't seem to have the problem you mention.
The only explanation I have for this is theming. I wrote a 20 line
application talking directly to XLib (not via fpGUI) and reproduced
the problem. Maybe if Qt ba
Dear Mr. Graeme Geldenhuys:
I read the documentation mentioned about gif, but really, I dont feel sure
to do that.
I want to attach the "running leopard" in my applications. Its possible?
thanks in advance,
yours truly,
Ing. Héctor F. Fiandor
hfian...@infomed.sld.cu
---
Martin Friebe wrote:
> Alexander
> Klenin wrote:
>> I think that while Lazarus IDE has many great features, they are not
>> well
>> organized. Various Lazarus developers added convenience features with
>> a separate user interfaces, so the features are dispersed all over UI
>> and hard to discove
On Wed, 6 May 2009, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> 2009/5/6 Michael Van Canneyt :
> >
> > Or install KUbuntu 9.04, which works lightning fast, and so far
> > without visible bugs. I updated a PC and a Laptop, and all went
> > smoothly...
>
> Sorry Michael, but it has the same problem here. Run a fp
Alexander Klenin schrieb:
>> IMO the scroll buttons should scroll the editor tabs by pages, not
>> activate the next left/right tab.
>
> I prefer the current way. I guess that depends on the number of
> units opened a once -- I usually try not to have too many.
Unit Controls plus the *.inc files
Mattias Gärtner schrieb:
> I plan more tools like the code browser - that scans whole source
> trees and need two or three hundred megabytes. But these tools will
> not be invoked by default and they share the same memory.
The code explorer can be seen as the map in a master-detail view. Then
Alexander Klenin wrote:
> 2009/5/7 Bogusław Brandys :
>> In fact we see here old problem of two rights - both groups are right ,
>> partially.
>>
>> While it would be nice to have as many nice features placed in one "Code
>> explorer" as possible - that WILL double windows, because someone not
>> u
Alexander Klenin wrote:
> 2009/5/7 Bogusław Brandys :
>
>> In fact we see here old problem of two rights - both groups are right ,
>> partially.
>>
>> While it would be nice to have as many nice features placed in one "Code
>> explorer" as possible - that WILL double windows, because someone not
Zitat von Bogusław Brandys :
> Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Martin Friebe wrote:
1) "Find procedure" should be merged into "Code explorer"
>>> Ok by me. (I never used it :) ) It's partly there anyway.
>>
>> Lets discuss it first - I use "procedure list" a *lo
2009/5/6 Michael Van Canneyt :
>
> Or install KUbuntu 9.04, which works lightning fast, and so far
> without visible bugs. I updated a PC and a Laptop, and all went
> smoothly...
Sorry Michael, but it has the same problem here. Run a fpGUI based
application or Windows application under WINE. Look
Christian U. wrote:
> Lazarus is only so slow in VirtualBox.
> Its no Lazarus Version issue or an PC issue.
> Its works in every VirtualBox very slow and every other GTK2 app is fast.
> also generated executables are very slow.
>
> best regards
> Christian
I bet ONLY GUI related executables,right
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 02:25, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
>
>> The problem with "Code Explorer" and "FPDoc Editor" type windows is
>> that they use processing power as you navigate or switch units.
>
> Apropos switch units: who made the editor tab shifting almost usele
2009/5/7 Bogusław Brandys :
> In fact we see here old problem of two rights - both groups are right ,
> partially.
>
> While it would be nice to have as many nice features placed in one "Code
> explorer" as possible - that WILL double windows, because someone not
> using docking (due to limited fre
Lazarus is only so slow in VirtualBox.
Its no Lazarus Version issue or an PC issue.
Its works in every VirtualBox very slow and every other GTK2 app is fast.
also generated executables are very slow.
best regards
Christian
- Original Message -
From: ""Leonardo M. Ramé""
To: "General mai
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Martin Friebe wrote:
>>> 1) "Find procedure" should be merged into "Code explorer"
>> Ok by me. (I never used it :) ) It's partly there anyway.
>
> Lets discuss it first - I use "procedure list" a *lot*. And at the
> moment it's behavi
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
> The problem with "Code Explorer" and "FPDoc Editor" type windows is
> that they use processing power as you navigate or switch units.
Apropos switch units: who made the editor tab shifting almost useless?
IMO the scroll buttons should scroll the editor tabs by pages,
Zitat von Hans-Peter Diettrich :
> Martin Friebe schrieb:
>
>>> 2) "Find in files", "Messages" and "Code observer" should be
>>> merged together,
>>> with interface most resembling "Find in files"
>>>
>> IMHO, this (point 2) would be even more a specialization. Also I can't
>> see how those 3 r
Hi,
Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
> BTW, do you know a repository with the latest FPC and Lazarus versions?
See
http://wiki.freepascal.org/Getting_Lazarus#Getting_Lazarus_from_our_Ubuntu_repository
. It also has a more recent version than the official Ubuntu repository,
(which crashed quite often o
Alexander Klenin schrieb:
>> All floating windows should be dockable. We have already a docking
>> manager. The missing part is to finish the save/restore of the layout.
>
> I started to look at fixing save/restore once, but dropped it since docking
> is being rewritten by Hans-Peter Diettrich
I
> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM, "Leonardo M. Ramé"
> > wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone faced the same problem?
>
> I don't have slowness, but I do have other graphics problems with
> fpGUI Toolkit and MSEgui and applications run under WINE. Ubun
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Reenen Laurie wrote:
>
> What does Enclose Selection do?
Click it - I dare you! ;-)
It allows you to choose with what you want to wrap the currently selected code.
eg: try..finaly, try..except, repeat..until, while..do, {} etc..
I learnt that one today
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:44 PM, "Leonardo M. Ramé" wrote:
> Thanks Graeme. BTW, do you know a repository with the latest FPC and
> Lazarus versions?
No, I always use SVN & Git repositories directly for FPC and Lazarus.
I know FPC is in the apt repository, but I'm not sure what version. I
think 2
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner :
>>> Or with Experts: Ctrl+Alt+Down and Ctrl+Alt+Up.
>>> I've always intended to implement this, but...
>>
>> Me too! :) I used to use that a lot in Delphi 7 + GExperts.
>
> Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down is often used in linux for desktop switching.
I know, and that's one of the firs
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
>> Yes, documentation is good.
>> But it is well-known fact that users do not read documentation ;-)
>
> Exactly why I decided on using animated gifs. User only needs to view
> them and not read content to get the idea of a feature. :)
Users who don't want to waste tim
Martin Friebe schrieb:
>> 2) "Find in files", "Messages" and "Code observer" should be merged together,
>> with interface most resembling "Find in files"
>>
> IMHO, this (point 2) would be even more a specialization. Also I can't
> see how those 3 relate at all.
They can use the same "Search
Thanks Graeme. BTW, do you know a repository with the latest FPC and
Lazarus versions?
Leonardo M. Ramé
Griensu S.A. - Medical IT Córdoba
Tel.: 0351 - 4247979
Graeme Geldenhuys escribió:
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM, "Leonardo M. Ramé" wrote:
>
>> Does anyone faced the same problem?
>
On 5/6/09, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Reenen Laurie wrote:
> > Menu - IDE Tools - Procedure list
> > Menu - IDE Tools - Anchor Viewer
>
> Both of these are already under the \"View\" menu.
Procedure list is not on my view menu... Maybe in a newer revision. :-/
>
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys :
> [...]
>> Or with Experts: Ctrl+Alt+Down and Ctrl+Alt+Up.
>> I've always intended to implement this, but...
>
> Me too! :) I used to use that a lot in Delphi 7 + GExperts.
Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down is often used in linux for desktop switching.
Mattias
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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 13:40, Paul Ishenin wrote:
> Please create a wiki page. After few revisions it can become a part of
> roadmap.
http://wiki.freepascal.org/IDE_UI_Consolidation
--
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2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner :
>> Or with Experts: Ctrl+Alt+Down and Ctrl+Alt+Up.
>> I've always intended to implement this, but...
>
> .. but it was already there:
>
> http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_IDE_Tools#Find_next_.2F_previous_word_occurrence
Yet again you impress me with the Lazaru
Zitat von Flávio Etrusco :
> [...]
> Quick Search would be something that Lazarus seems to still be
> missing: search the identifier under the caret.
> Like in Visual Studio: Ctrl+F3 to search forwared and Ctrl+Shift+F3
> backwards.
> Or with Experts: Ctrl+Alt+Down and Ctrl+Alt+Up.
> I've always
2009/5/6 Flávio Etrusco :
>
> Quick Search would be something that Lazarus seems to still be
> missing: search the identifier under the caret.
Ctrl+F automatically takes what's under the caret and inserts it as
the search text. I think this is configurable somewhere in Lazarus
IDE. Then press Ent
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM, "Leonardo M. Ramé" wrote:
>
> Does anyone faced the same problem?
I don't have slowness, but I do have other graphics problems with
fpGUI Toolkit and MSEgui and applications run under WINE. Ubuntu 9.04
has had some serious graphics bugs since the beta release and h
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 00:02, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> Mattias just mentioned the following page in anther message thread. I
> thought it's worth mentioning it in it's own message thread.
>
> http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_IDE_Tools
>
> WOW!!! I have learnt quite a few new tricks b
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys
wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Martin Friebe wrote:
>>
>> Highlight (as in block-selection) and then search for it => use ctrl-f
>
> Yeah, that's what I normally use...
>
>
>> Quick search (or incremental search) (ctrl-e) means you star
I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on a VirtualBox 2.2.2 Virtual Machine, and
noted that Lazarus 0.9.26, the one you can download by issuing an
"apt-get install lazarus" is painfully slow, unusable, specially when
compiled for GTK2.
Does anyone faced the same problem?
--
Leonardo M. Ramé
Griensu S.
Mattias just mentioned the following page in anther message thread. I
thought it's worth mentioning it in it's own message thread.
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_IDE_Tools
WOW!!! I have learnt quite a few new tricks by reading that page.
Ctrl+Shift+C is so much more powerful that I
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Reenen Laurie wrote:
> Menu - IDE Tools - Procedure list
> Menu - IDE Tools - Anchor Viewer
Both of these are already under the "View" menu.
> Menu - IDE Tools - Identifier Completion (ctrl-space) (says -you need
> have typed half of an identifier for this too
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner wrote:
>
>> Do you mean the shortcut doesn't work or the actual "procedure List"
>> dialog doesn't work on all widgetsets?
>
> Alt-G does not work. With other short cuts it works.
Does it conflict with OS or Desktop Manager? For example:
Ctrl+Alt+[F1-F12] under Ubuntu is
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Alexander Klenin wrote:
>
>> * Procedure List jumps to Implementation section. Code Explorer to
>> Interface section.
>
> I would prefer to always jump to implementation, but it can be made an option.
Yup, I prefer that too.
>> * In procedure list, when you pres
Erm...
Ok, maybe I know more about UI than others, maybe I know less.
But IMHO, *everything* should be accessible via the menu. So if you
don\'t know a shortcut, you can click
Menu - IDE Tools - Procedure list
Menu - IDE Tools - Anchor Viewer
Menu - IDE Tools - Identifier Completion (ctrl-spa
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys :
> 2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner :
>>
>> It's called 'procedure list' and its default key is Alt-G, which does
>> not work on all widgetsets.
>
> Do you mean the shortcut doesn't work or the actual "procedure List"
> dialog doesn't work on all widgetsets?
Alt-G does not wo
>>> 1) "Find procedure" should be merged into "Code explorer"
>>
>> Ok by me. (I never used it :) ) It's partly there anyway.
>
> Lets discuss it first - I use "procedure list" a *lot*. And at the
> moment it's behaviour is different to code explorer.
Of course, no need to rush.
But notice how e
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner :
>>> 2) "Find in files", "Messages" and "Code observer" should be merged
>>> together,
>>> with interface most resembling "Find in files"
>>
>> I can't see how these can be combined. They are totally different
>> features. Maybe the result windows could be docked though.
>
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner :
>
> It's called 'procedure list' and its default key is Alt-G, which does
> not work on all widgetsets.
Do you mean the shortcut doesn't work or the actual "procedure List"
dialog doesn't work on all widgetsets?
Since I switched from GTK1 to GTK2, "procedure list" doesn
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Martin Friebe wrote:
>
>> 1) "Find procedure" should be merged into "Code explorer"
>
> Ok by me. (I never used it :) ) It's partly there anyway.
Lets discuss it first - I use "procedure list" a *lot*. And at the
moment it's behaviour is different to code explor
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Alexander Klenin wrote:
>
> Yes, documentation is good.
> But it is well-known fact that users do not read documentation ;-)
Exactly why I decided on using animated gifs. User only needs to view
them and not read content to get the idea of a feature. :)
>
> Sorry
Zitat von Martin Friebe :
>
>
> Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, I often use "Quick search" (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
>>>
>>
>> How does "quick search" work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
>> seach for, pressed Ctrl+E. It
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Martin Friebe wrote:
>
> Highlight (as in block-selection) and then search for it => use ctrl-f
Yeah, that's what I normally use...
> Quick search (or incremental search) (ctrl-e) means you start the search
> with an empty search-term, then as you type the edito
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys :
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, I often use "Quick search" (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
>
> How does "quick search" work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
> seach for, pressed Ctrl+E. It showed "seaching" in the editor sta
Alexander Klenin wrote:
> I think that while Lazarus IDE has many great features, they are not well
> organized. Various Lazarus developers added convenience features with
> a separate user interfaces, so the features are dispersed all over UI
> and hard to discover.
>
> IMHO the good way forward i
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 18:28, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, I often use "Quick search" (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
>
> How does "quick search" work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
> seach for, pressed Ctrl+E. It showed "se
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I often use "Quick search" (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
>>
>
> How does "quick search" work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
> seach for, pressed Ctrl+E. It showed "seaching" in the edit
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin wrote:
>
> FWIW, I often use "Quick search" (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
How does "quick search" work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
seach for, pressed Ctrl+E. It showed "seaching" in the editor status
bar, but nothing further. Sometimes
Paul Ishenin wrote:
> Alexander Klenin wrote:
>
>> If there is a general agreement, I can prepare detailed proposal for
>> consolidation,
>> but as a quick sketch:
>> 1) "Find procedure" should be merged into "Code explorer"
>
> What is "Find procedure"? But since I dont use it I am not against :
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