On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:12:26PM -0700, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote:
> 100 mips isn't enough to run VM?
It's not the VM parts I'm worried about -- they'll play nice. It's the
combination of OS/390, z/OS, VSE and Linux guests PLUS a VM system that makes
me say that you may be a tad underpowered here.
> Just got the latest IBM Journal of Research and Development in the
> mail and it's the "IBM eServer z900" issue! Some articles on the web:
> http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/rd46-45.html
Mike: Note that all of the Research servers are down for annual
maintenance until Tuesday morning.
100 mips isn't enough to run VM? My first systems programmer job in 1984 we
had a 4331 running VM/SP 2 with VSE as a guest under it (which was where we
moved all the applications from our old Univac machine.) It only had, I
think, 0.4 mips. That's 400Kips, folks, and 4M of real memory. Worked
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:33:20PM +0200, Phil Payne wrote:
> > Indeed, but there's nothing like a real S/390 and no fear of retribution.
> Even a real S/390 has to be licensed.
I'm pretty sure the "fear of retribution" was not about "Arrr, matey!
I'm a *PIRATE* on the High Seas Of IBM Licensed P
Hi ,
I have successfully installed SuSE Linux 7.0 several times on MP3000
through the PCI Ethernet cards.
I'm now trying to install from the same CDs on an z800 with OSA-Express
Fast Ethernet ports. I get to the point when the three sets of pings are
being done. The first set, i.e. to itself, wo
> Indeed, but there's nothing like a real S/390 and no fear of retribution.
Even a real S/390 has to be licensed.
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A contract like that with CA has resulted in Hennepin County dumping EVERY
CA product we have and going with IBM equivalents. Even AFTER the
conversion costs, we'll save well over a million dollars the first year.
CA couldn't even match IBM's prices on the equivalent products for a new
contract.
Wow, a self-proclaimed Linux punk who is admitting there is something
to learn from the VM community! Woohoo! Life keeps getting better and
better :-)
Thanks Alex! :-)
Christine Brogan
From: "Alex deVries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 08/30/2002
09:07 AM AST
Please respo
Just got the latest IBM Journal of Research and Development in the mail
and it's the "IBM eServer z900" issue! Some articles on the web:
http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/rd46-45.html
Thanks
Mike
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If we blow up, whatever's left of me is kicking your butt!
Indeed, but there's nothing like a real S/390 and no fear of retribution.
On Friday 30 August 2002 10:22 am, you wrote:
> Rich,
>
> That's what you've got that laptop with Hercules for, isn't it? :)
>
> Mark Post
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Rich
On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 14:07, Alex deVries wrote:
> Wow, this is insanely cool. It isn't often I say that about a sales
> presentation that's older than I am.
Most of the presentations I have to suffer feel like they are older than
I am
Alan
Rich,
That's what you've got that laptop with Hercules for, isn't it? :)
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: H50 sandbox
If this is truely a sandbox system and you really
Dave,
I know you can issue a "#cp def stor 64M" (for example) command to set the
amount of virtual storage for a guest. In the past, that normally caused
severe problems for the guest, requiring a re-IPL. I don't know if the same
was/is true for CPs. How the dynamic changes get handled (or not
In a message dated 8/29/2002 10:36:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mark, David,
Thanks for the input.
I'm surprised that 100+mips isn't enough to run what I've laid out,
given dynamically weighting for CP and dynamic storage reconfiguration.
I agree that the flexibilit
At 07:17 30-08-02, P A Carroll wrote:
>missing header for unified diff at line 8 of patch
Ah yes. Unlike the previous patches this is the pure cvs
output I think. Just edit the first two lines out and
make sure to be in the drivers/390/net directory when
you apply the patch (without a -p option)
Patrick,
I would say you need to bump your -p parameter to at least -p3, maybe -p4 (I
always have to play around with that to get it right). The system where I
could play with this is undergoing some glibc surgery right now, so I can't
verify that.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: P
It is important to note, however, that SuSE's YaST product is NOT GPL
and has different re-distribution terms.
-jasons
Post, Mark K wrote:
> To answer the other questions you raised, you are free to redistribute
> anything that is covered by the GPL, or similar license that meets the OSI
> defin
Thanks Rob - that approach seems to work.
There still seems to be a problem with the patch, though.
The patch hits three files: iucv.c. iucv.h, and netiucv.c
The first two (iucv.c and iucv.h) apply fine, but the patch to netiucv.c fails to
verify
Here's the first failing hunk from iucv-2.4.17.p
> I'm surprised that 100+mips isn't enough to run what I've laid out,
> given dynamically weighting for CP and dynamic storage
> reconfiguration.
If all you're running is test instances, it might be enough. The H50 isn't
that big of a box, and while you could technically do this on a P390, you
wo
If this is truely a sandbox system and you really don't give a big hoot about
performance, this system will be great. We should all be so lucky! (are you
listening Bob?)
On Friday 30 August 2002 09:18 am, you wrote:
> I'm not up to speed on VM yet, so three followup questions:
>
Peons are not allowed to discuss these issues with vendors.
Unfortunately rather than listen to me, management decided to sign long term
contracts (3-5 yrs) with vendors (CA, BMC, etc) that say even through we
have about 700 mips, we'll pay y'all for 1000 mips for the length of the
contract. No r
Try getting the newest possible qeth and qdio drivers that will work with
your kernel, either from SuSE or IBM's Developerworks site.
Jay Brenneman
z/OS System Build and Installation
Dept. C90A 1A26/710
T/L: 295 - 7745
Extern: 845 - 435 - 7745
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wow, this is insanely cool. It isn't often I say that about a sales
presentation that's older than I am.
The Linux community can learn a lot from you guys. I just hope that
we're anything like this in twenty years.
Now let me see if I can find a Gloria Gaynor 8 track and my rollerskates
-
Velocity Software has, if you contact them I sure they would be willing to
ship you one.
> -Original Message-
> From: McKown, John [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Stupid idea?
>
> I've seen a number of posts here
Mark,
Wonderful - thanks for the link!
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John McKown
Senior Technical Specialist
UICI Insurance Center
Applications & Solutions Team
+1.817.255.3225
> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Thanks for your reply, Mark
The patch fails to apply (details below) using the patch command, hence the
suspicion...
The patch file name is
iucv-2.4.17.patch
It's in
linux-2.4.17-s390-4-iucv.tar.gz
dated 2002-8-16
Anyway, I'm trying to fix the race condition in IUCV connection
initializati
One of the things that surfaced at the 30th anniversary party for VM
in San Francisco was a miraculously intact copy of the original 1972
VM/370 sales presentation intended for explaining what benefit VM/370
had for customers. The presentation (a collection of 35mm slides and a
presentation script
Tom,
Like I said, it was a stupid, but necessary question. Sigh. It's a lot
easier dealing with mistakes than figuring out new problems. :)
I got an off-list email informing me that IBM has a new version of the patch
that tries to be more "intelligent" and turn jiffies off only when the
syste
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