Re: Proposed RAID5 design changes.

2001-03-21 Thread Micah Anderson
Veritas Volume Manager has a "virtual" device driver (vxio) which handles the intermediary step between the actual device driver and the higher level. This allows for some advanced RAID possibilities - if a write fails to complete, the ioctl returns a value of -1... That way you can execute a Veri

Re: Proposed RAID5 design changes.

2001-03-21 Thread Alan Cox
> Umm. Isn't RAID implemented as the md device? That implies that it is > responsible for some kind of error management. Bluntly, the file systems > don't declare a file system kaput until they've retried the critical > I/O operations. Why should RAID5 be any less tolerant? File systems give up t

Re: Proposed RAID5 design changes.

2001-03-21 Thread Alan Cox
> any data, but under normal default drive setup the sector will not be > reallocated. If testing the failing sector is too much effort, a > simple overwrite with the corrected data, at worst, improves the > chances of the drive firmware being able to reallocate the sector. > This works just f

Re: Proposed RAID5 design changes.

2001-03-21 Thread Dan Jones
Alan Cox wrote: > > > > 1) Read and write errors should be retried at least once before kicking > > >the drive out of the array. > > > > This doesn't seem unreasonable on the face of it. > > Device level retries are the job of the device level driver > > > > 2) On more persistent read error

Re: Proposed RAID5 design changes.

2001-03-21 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Max TenEyck Woodbury wrote: > > Umm. Isn't RAID implemented as the md device? That implies that it is > responsible for some kind of error management. Bluntly, the file systems > don't declare a file system kaput until they've retried the critical > I/O operations. Why shoul

Re: Proposed RAID5 design changes.

2001-03-21 Thread Max TenEyck Woodbury
Alan Cox wrote: > >>> 1) Read and write errors should be retried at least once before kicking >>>the drive out of the array. >> >> This doesn't seem unreasonable on the face of it. > > Device level retries are the job of the device level driver Umm. Isn't RAID implemented as the md device?

Re: Error Injector?

2001-03-21 Thread Neil Brown
On Wednesday March 21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > My question is based upon prior experience working for Stratus Computer. At > Stratus it was impractical to go beat the disk drives with a hammer to cause > them to fail - rather we would simply use a utility to cause the disk driver > to begin

Re: secondary IDE controllers (correction)

2001-03-21 Thread Gary Murakami
>Need recommendations for Linux supported pci-IDE controllers that >have more than 2 channels on a plug in card. I have performance measurements and other comments for the 3ware Escalade 6800 8-channel/drive controllers at the following URL (corrected): http://www.research.att.com/~gjm/linux/ide-

Re: Proposed RAID5 design changes.

2001-03-21 Thread Alan Cox
> > 1) Read and write errors should be retried at least once before kicking > >the drive out of the array. > > This doesn't seem unreasonable on the face of it. Device level retries are the job of the device level driver > > 2) On more persistent read errors, the failed block (or whatever u

Re: secondary IDE controllers

2001-03-21 Thread Gary Murakami
>Need recommendations for Linux supported pci-IDE controllers that >have more than 2 channels on a plug in card. I have performance measurements and other comments for the 3ware Escalade 6800 8-channel/drive controllers at the following URL: http://euphony.research.att.com/~gjm/linux/ide-3wraid.h

secondary IDE controllers

2001-03-21 Thread Michael
Need recommendations for Linux supported pci-IDE controllers that have more than 2 channels on a plug in card. Michael - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Error Injector?

2001-03-21 Thread Jos Visser
If you go to the Linux kernel config (2.4), SCSI -> Low level drivers, there is a line there that mentions a debugging SCSI driver that can be programmed to generate errors. I have no idea what it does though.. Just wanted to point it out. ++Jos And thus it came to pass that Richard Schaal

Error Injector?

2001-03-21 Thread Richard Schaal
Greetings! I have set up a system with a IDE raid1 for /boot, / , and swap area and a SCSI raid5 for data area, and it seems to be working just fine now that I turned on DMA as a kernel option for my IDE drives in the raid1. ( I got almost 80% improvement in thruput on the raid1 after the change.

Re: disk fails in raid5 but not in raid0

2001-03-21 Thread Per Jessen
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:06:04 +1100 (EST), Neil Brown wrote: [snip] > >Try re-arranging the drives on the scsi chain. If the questionable >one is currently furthest from the host-adapter, make it closest. See >if that has any effect. >It could well be cabling, or terminators or something. Or it

raid1 problem or config problem?

2001-03-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear all, We're running problem with RAID1 config in our systm. I don't know if it is the problem of the disk or the RAID code/DMA code on i810? We'd like to know that is the RAID1 could not really protect a single disk failure and crashing our partiton, or our config has something wrong? We're