Re: [luau] java on linux question - sorry, source inserted

2003-02-11 Thread Ray Strode
Uhm, for those people who program in Java on Linux, I'm not really qualified to answer, because I haven't used Java in a while and I haven't ever used a GridBagLayout, but I'm going to guess, and it probably won't be much help you. All of my speculation is based on guessed semantics from the n

[luau] privilege separation

2003-02-11 Thread Vince Hoang
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 10:30:09PM -0500, MonMotha wrote: > OpenSSH has something known as privilage separation. What > this does is have two processes running, with some sort of > IPC between them (I'm not familiar with the internals). The > daemon is initially run as root, binds to port 80 and dr

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread Gary Dunn
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:13:48 -0500 (EST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How does one get daemons to run as a user other than root? Check to see if the binary is setuid. If you want it to run as nobody, chown nobody, then chmod to make setuid. Or, turn off setuid and try the su -c method you mentioned

Re: [luau] Is the Videl FTP site down?

2003-02-11 Thread MonMotha
Warren Togami wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] warren]$ /usr/sbin/tracepath videl.ics.hawaii.edu 1?: [LOCALHOST] pmtu 1500 1: 204.210.124.1 (204.210.124.1)asymm 2 43.790ms 2: fas0-0-oahuhi-moiliili-ubr1.hawaii.rr.com (24.165.61.225) 50.628ms 3: srp2-0-oahuhi-kiliha

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread MonMotha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you want to start [sshd] as nobody? You are supposed to start sshd as root. The application itself handles dropping privileges and chrooting. If only! sshd ends up running as root, both if I start it manually or if I reboot/restart the service. And as I sa

[luau] GPG signing at Tuesday night meeting

2003-02-11 Thread Warren Togami
If you're heading down there tonight, please bring your GPG key fingerprint so we can sign each other's keys. Thanks, Warren

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread Warren Togami
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you want to start [sshd] as nobody? You are supposed to start sshd as root. The application itself handles dropping privileges and chrooting. If only! sshd ends up running as root, both if I start it manually or if I reboot/restart the service. And as I say

Re: [luau] Is the Videl FTP site down?

2003-02-11 Thread Warren Togami
Brian Chee wrote: ok...I just tried the ftp://. from the same subnet as videl(it works)it would seem that one of my upstream routers is losing its mindthe next time someone runs into this issue...could you do a traceroute to videl.ics.hawaii.edu and email it to menone of my m

[luau] java on linux question - sorry, source inserted

2003-02-11 Thread Charles Lockhart
The ultimate horror, source code. Uhm, for those people who program in Java on Linux, is there any reason that everything here wouldn't stack up nice and clear at least horizontally? I've got: button. button. button. button. button. button. label.. two block TF... label.. two block TF... two b

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread tburns
>Why would you want to start [sshd] as nobody? You are supposed to >start sshd as root. The application itself handles dropping >privileges and chrooting. If only! sshd ends up running as root, both if I start it manually or if I reboot/restart the service. And as I say, many (all?) of my other

[luau] Re: web forums

2003-02-11 Thread Eric Jeschke
| It is not a psychological reason, it is a technical reason. There | currently exists no viable mailing list to web board gateway that | maintains the best of both worlds. | | Such a thing could however be coded for phpBB. It would be a major | technical hurdle, but it would be a great boon

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread cpaul
Here is a python script I wrote to change user ids for daemons: # #!/usr/bin/env python import os,pwd from sys import argv def c_uid(u): try: uid = int(u) os.setuid(uid) except ValueError: uid = pwd.getpwnam(u)[2]

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread Vince Hoang
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 07:14:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In this particular case, sshd. Why would you want to start it as nobody? You are supposed to start sshd as root. The application itself handles dropping privileges and chrooting. > Maybe that's part of my problem in this instanc

Re: [luau] Is the Videl FTP site down?

2003-02-11 Thread Matt Darnell
I can get to it now.  If I experience it again I will do the trace route.   -M - Original Message - From: Brian Chee To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [luau] Is the Videl FTP site down? ok...I just tried the ftp://...

[luau] Oracle on LINUX

2003-02-11 Thread Karen McKee
I stumbled across your address in a search on the web.   I work for Central Missouri State University, in Missouri. We currently have Oracle 9i installed and running on LINUX (SUSe) on a 390 mainframe. It wasn't too hard, considering Oracle finally sells a license for it.   However, we are con

Re: [luau] Is the Videl FTP site down?

2003-02-11 Thread MonMotha
Brian Chee wrote: ok...I just tried the ftp://. from the same subnet as videl(it works)it would seem that one of my upstream routers is losing its mindthe next time someone runs into this issue...could you do a traceroute to videl.ics.hawaii.edu and email it to menone of my mon

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread tburns
>> How does one get daemons to >>run as a user other than root? >It depends on what service you are >trying to run. In this particular case, sshd. But what if I just wanted to run some arbitrary shell script as "nobody"? How would I do it? Maybe: su - nobody shell_script & exit or su nobo

Re: [luau] Is the Videl FTP site down?

2003-02-11 Thread Brian Chee
ok...I just tried the ftp://. from the same subnet as videl(it works)it would seem that one of my upstream routers is losing its mindthe next time someone runs into this issue...could you do a traceroute to videl.ics.hawaii.edu and email it to menone of my monitoring systems

[luau] Is the Videl FTP site down?

2003-02-11 Thread Matt Darnell
I can connect to http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu but not to ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu   I have tried from two different sites.  Did the mirrors get moved?  I don't think so because the website points to the ftp site.   -Matt

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread Brian Chee
Actually I second that motion.my wish is a way to start a program during boot (daemon) but run as a dedicated user (kinda like nobody) so that I can limit possible damage. chroot comes to mind, but how to I get the program as a different user? /brian chee University of Hawaii ICS Dept Advanc

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread MonMotha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one get daemons to run as a user other than root? I tried using: su -c That should work on linux, though check to make sure IRIX implements -c. but it doesn't seem to work. Are the daemons supposed to change their own privilege level? Some do, mostly

Re: [luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread Vince Hoang
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 06:13:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How does one get daemons to run as a user other than root? It depends on what service you are trying to run. > I tried using: > > su -c This could work if the daemon is not binding to a privileged port. > but it doesn't seem

Re: [luau] Re: web forums

2003-02-11 Thread Warren Togami
Eric Jeschke wrote: I think that if you have the right system set up you can have the same content hosted as both a mailing list and as a bulletin board and leave the choice of the interface up to the user (this has worked successfully with mailing lists gatewayed to news systems for years). You

[luau] daemons running as root

2003-02-11 Thread tburns
How does one get daemons to run as a user other than root? I tried using: su -c but it doesn't seem to work. Are the daemons supposed to change their own privilege level? One problem is that the system I'm actually trying to fix is running IRIX, not linux. But there's usually enough common

Re: [luau] CMS systems and Web Based Forums

2003-02-11 Thread tongaloa
How about a combo newsgroup/mailing list. Lots of bandwidth savings with news. Newsgroup can be set up for accepting posts from mailing list subscribers only. Subscribe to list in mail, digest, or no nail as options. Plus, if you want eposure, you'll get it. Just a sugestion if this thing actually

Re: [luau] HOSEF meeting tuesday?

2003-02-11 Thread Dustin Cross
Aloha, I'll be at Pricebusters tonight with my camera. See you there. Mahalo, Dusty > Aloha, > > What will be going on at the meeting on tuesday? I would like to bring > my camera down and start getting some video footage for a series I want > to do on open source in Hawaii. Who will be the

[luau] Re: web forums

2003-02-11 Thread Eric Jeschke
| Vince Hoang wrote: | > | > http://drupal.org | > http://postnuke.com/ | > http://www.xoops.org/modules/news/ | > http://www.phpbb.com/ (see http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/) | > http://slashcode.com/ | > http://plone.org/ Also, you might want to check out FUDForum minibb.net phorum.org openbb.com o

Re: [luau] part of C&W office closing down

2003-02-11 Thread Vince Hoang
* Please do not cold call the office and solicit donations. * Outside of the monitors, a few kitchen utensils, broken chairs, and 3 boxes of Christmas decorations, there is not much left that has not already been donated or being moved upstairs. Reply to be privately if you have questions. -Vinc

RE: [luau] CMS systems and Web Based Forums

2003-02-11 Thread Kevin Goad
I wouldn't mind a forum as long as no one puts up an icon of LAURENCE FISHBURNE and dubs themself MORPHEUS or some silly stuff like that. I think it would be much better organized and allow for several in depth discussions to go on simultaneously.

RE: [luau] CMS systems and Web Based Forums

2003-02-11 Thread LinuxDan
Warren I agree entirely with that statement. I am using PHP/MySQL and I haven't had any security issues partially to do with the IBM wireless security software configured by non other than Redhat. My wireless DLINK router does it all giving me the band

[luau] interesting linux article from infoworld

2003-02-11 Thread Sandi Schneiderman
Linux talent search >From dealing with self-taught 'experts' to re-training gurus, CTOs face Linux talent issues http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/02/07/06ctstrats_1.html?s=cto

Re: [luau] CMS systems and Web Based Forums

2003-02-11 Thread Warren Togami
Vince Hoang wrote: I guess this would mean no more HTML-ized E-mail. Exactly, and no more need to remind people either. It takes too much effort anyway while we could be working on something else more important. One technical concern is hosting. Will HOSEF/luau always have the blessing f