Hello Ryan, list,
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 14:16, Ryan Weaver wrote:
> [quote]
> I have also been talking to our leadership, and to Pavel Roskin, about
> offering to become the new Maintainer of the Midnight Commander
> Project, and Pavel has encouraged me to do so. Pavel only wants what
> is best f
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From: Fudoki Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date:
Jun 8, 2005 12:32 AMSubject: R
Fudoki Wilkinson !
Hey, buddy, calmdown and move your ass away from this list,
don't bother MC developers. With all your postings here I can see that
your behavior like a hysteric woman, which do not want to hear that ppl talking
to her. I loathe to ppl which can't understand that others sa
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Original Message
Subject: Re: A new day for MC?
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:01:32 -0400
From: Pavel Roskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Fudoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello!
On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 19:01 -0400, Fudoki
leadership wants to be certain that your feelings on this matter > receive the consideration they deserve. Please let me know when you get > a chance. Thanks!
My feeling is that it would be nice to have a file manager with amaintainable codebase. I don't think anyone would object (maybe
Would someone please ban this shithead from the list? He's really getting
anoying.
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Regards,
Scott
--- [ Fudoki Wilkinson ] ===---
> Hello, Terry!
>
> Now I see you actually understand me better than many mc contributors
> and better than I initially thought. Maybe I was too harsh in my
gt; receive the consideration they deserve. Please let me know when you get > a chance. Thanks!My feeling is that it would be nice to have a file manager with a
maintainable codebase. I don't think anyone would object (maybe exceptcompeting projects).-- Regards,Pavel Roskin
From: Pavel Ro
From: Fudoki Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Jun 8, 2005 12:32 AMSubject: Re: New Maintainer for MC Project
To: Pavel Roskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Greetings Pavel,On 6/7/05, Pavel Roskin <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello!Quoting Fudoki Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> Th
Hello!
Quoting Fudoki Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> This message was not answered by Pavel until until 6 June, after the offer
> of help had been withdrawn.
Still, you didn't have my endorsement that you claimed you had.
"Go ahead" meant "post whatever you want to the list", not "take over th
This message was not answered by Pavel until until 6 June, after the offer of help had been withdrawn.
We wanted these questions cleared up before we posted a query asking
the Developers if our help was something they wanted to discuss.
After two days without a response, we went ahead and posted
Fudoki Wilkinson wrote:
On 6/7/05, Roland Illig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Fudoki Wilkinson wrote:
mainly due to his private notes to our Marketing Manager blasting the
MC Project and it's Maintainers.
"private" notes? I only wrote mails to public mailing lists, mc-devel in
particular. So th
On 6/7/05, Roland Illig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Fudoki Wilkinson wrote:> Roland must be Mr. Icaza's protege, just slinging abuse and saying no> before the offer is even on the table;In my opinion the offer of taking over mc could not have been expressed
more clearly. I had already been on the ta
Hello, Terry!Now I see you actually understand me better than many mc contributorsand better than I initially thought. Maybe I was too harsh in myinitial e-mail. There was a significant "fallout" in my inbox caused by
the recent discussions, and I had to deal with it while being verypressed with
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Fudoki Wilkinson wrote:
Roland must be Mr. Icaza's protege, just slinging abuse and saying no
before the offer is even on the table;
In my opinion the offer of taking over mc could not have been expressed
more clearly. I had already been on the table when I said "no". The
latest statement fro
Hello!
Sorry, I should have answered this long ago.
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 05:58 -0700, Fudoki wrote:
> Greetings All!
>
>My name is Terry Wilkinson and I am on the Docs
> Team and also am the Public Relations Coordinator for
> the Krusader File Manager Project
> (http://krusader.sourceforge
Hello Terry!
> ... about offering to
> become the new Maintainer of the Midnight Commander
> Project.
Well, Terry, I have some arguments against your offer, but
after reading your letters here I just has to say I don't need
such maintainer.
It's better have no maintainer than such person.
No, t
Miguel de Icaza wrote:
* You exhibit the behavior of many people who have no ideas
whatsoever about the project but like big titles. "Public
Relations Coordinator", "the leadership", and "Project
Manager".
* Tell the "Leadership" that thanks
> Since it is not my policy to argue with fools, that's all I will
>say along those lines.
Learn to use email, thanks.
Pavel
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Hi!
> > * Tell the "Leadership" that thanks, but no thanks.
>
> ... If meritocracy is the rule I think we should decide this on merits,
> don't you? Which means you shouldn't decide this all by yourself. I
> would like to get some input from others as well.
I agree with Miguel here...
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 07:00 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks for offering to become the new maintainer for Midnight
> Commander. I do not want you to become the "Project Manager" for a
> number of reasons:
>
> * In open source, maintainers are chosen by their merits,
Looks like it did, since this is not an apology.
You really *don't* know who I am.
But at least this note was not loaded with blind insults, so I guess that's progress.
Good luck with MC,
Fudoki
On 6/5/05, Miguel de Icaza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Greetings,Your last email proved my po
Part 1 of 2-- Forwarded message --From: Fudoki Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jun 5, 2005 5:16 PMSubject: Re: New Maintainer for MC Project?To: Miguel de Icaza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: MC Devel List <
mc-devel@gnome.org>Mr. Icaza,
Have read your egom
Mr. Icaza,
Have read your egomaniacal screed and must thank you for giving me a
good laugh this morning. Can't say as I have ever been told I was
without merit in area of computers and technology. I'll be sure to
look you up next April, assuming you are still with Novell then, and
you
Greetings,
Your last email proved my point.
Miguel.
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Date: Jun 5, 2005 5:16 PMSubject: Re: New Maintainer for MC Project?To: Miguel de Icaza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: MC Devel List <
mc-devel@gnome.org>
As I stated previously, if we have pr
Jun 4, 2005 3:22 PMSubject: Subject: Re: New Maintainer for MC Project??To: MC Devel List <mc-devel@gnome.org>
Greetings Leonard! Just received this
morning's digest. Thanks for your note. Answers to your
questions below:Message: 6Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:03:22
+
Hi Terry,
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 21:22, Fudoki Wilkinson wrote:
> Our research indicated that the Maintainer being saddled with
> programming duties had actually not been helpful in the MC Project.
Well, "as such" this is not true. I see no problem with a maintainer
actively participating in the
Hi,
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:49, Leonard den Ottolander wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:00, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
> > * In open source, maintainers are chosen by their merits, before
> > today I have never heard of you.It is a meritocracy, you
> > have shown none so far.
>
Hello,
> Hm. Not sure this is true. Although Terry uses his own jargon I do
> believe his offer is sincere. I'm not sure I like the infrastructural
> aspects of the proposal, but I believe his offer to help out with some
> "project guidance" should be considered none the less.
The problem is not
Hi Miguel,
(Still busy writing a response to Terry's mail.)
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:00, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
> * In open source, maintainers are chosen by their merits, before
> today I have never heard of you.It is a meritocracy, you
> have shown none so far.
Althou
Hello,
Thanks for offering to become the new maintainer for Midnight
Commander. I do not want you to become the "Project Manager" for a
number of reasons:
* In open source, maintainers are chosen by their merits, before
today I have never heard of you.It is a meritocra
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Date: Jun 4, 2005 3:22 PMSubject: Subject: Re: New Maintainer for MC Project??To: MC Devel List <mc-devel@gnome.org>
Part 3 of 3
We are interested in helping the MC
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Date: Jun 4, 2005 3:22 PMSubject: Subject: Re: New Maintainer for MC Project??To: MC Devel List <mc-devel@gnome.org>
Our Leadership asked me to be the Project
Manager for th
tainer for MC Project??To: MC Devel List <mc-devel@gnome.org>
Greetings Leonard! Just received this
morning's digest. Thanks for your note. Answers to your
questions below:Message: 6Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:03:22
+0200From: Leonard den Ottolander
<[EMAIL PROTECT
Greetings Leonard! Just received this
morning's digest. Thanks for your note. Answers to your
questions below:Message: 6Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:03:22
+0200From: Leonard den Ottolander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject:
Re: New Maintainer for MC Project??To: MC Deve
Greetings All!
My name is Terry Wilkinson and I am on the Docs
Team and also am the Public Relations Coordinator for
the Krusader File Manager Project
(http://krusader.sourceforge.net/index.php). Our Team
has been watching this list closely because most of us
are regular MC users. I have als
Hello Terry,
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 15:05, Fudoki Wilkinson wrote:
> I have also been talking to our
> leadership, and to Pavel Roskin, about offering to
> become the new Maintainer of the Midnight Commander
> Project, and Pavel has encouraged me to do so.
>Would the developers of MC like to h
Fudoki Wilkinson wrote:
My name is Terry Wilkinson and I am on the Docs
Team and also am the Public Relations Coordinator for
the Krusader File Manager Project
(http://krusader.sourceforge.net/index.php). Our Team
has been watching this list closely because most of us
are regular MC users. I
Greetings All! My name is Terry Wilkinson and I am on the DocsTeam and also am the Public Relations Coordinator forthe Krusader File Manager Project(
http://krusader.sourceforge.net/index.php). Our Teamhas been watching this list closely because most of usare regular MC users. I have also been
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