I think I understand the challenge Matteo has put forward. Ok Here is
something I have sat quiet on giving him the benefit of the doubt.
I bought a "speck" of DAG 400 from you perhaps 4-5 years ago when it was
rare. You told me it was about 2mm x 1mm x 1mm. I sent you $100
dollars. The part
Elton and list, Elton wrote; "What punishment are you advocating?"
I don't want anyone punished, I just would like to see the IMCA members use
a little honesty in there descriptions so they do not make us all look bad.
: ) I have noticed, NONE of the big dealers are tricking people into
looking a
...Hey Folks! Where do we conduct IMCA related business? ..The IMCA
mailing list of course!!
(I am suggesting to the BOD (board of directors) at IMCA, that they
adopt a policy that ALL IMCA business be restricted to the IMCA list
unless specifically authorized otherwise. This Witch Hunt i
Someone out ther sent me an email about the LL3 sale asking for a smaller
piece. I accidently nuked the email.
The 5.4 gram is still available for $54 shipped and the surface to weight is
good.
--
Rob Wesel
--
We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy W
Good morning all.
I want to clarify a couple of things, we all seem to
forget that while meteorites are important, people are
far more inportant. The poor people here have no luck,
the rains and floods come every year, thousands die,
then every few years cyclones wipe the entire area
clean, only t
Second what Steve and Marcie wrote: Mike is in the trenches. Go Mike!
CharlyV
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Swanson
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:47 PM
To: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> The question is:
> how do you get a newbie to go to it? And would the pages translate from the
> meteorwrong page back to the Ebay page? It may be very confusing to the person
> just introduced to this science.
Here is another way:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2196304590
Be
Hi Mike Farmer, Atul Kumar and List,
First of all, many thanks to M.F. for his very interesting
emails on India and his "adventures" in meteorite-chasing there. I am pleased to
know that he has a fragment already and that, probably against all odds,
burocracy, etc, he has managed to examin
Wow.what are details behing the "iron wrong"?
I must admit, that unless there's something obviously wrong (e.g., weight) when viewing it in person, I would probably have bought it.
Craig
Hello List,
I just added some pictures of (THE BEST
WRONGS)
The Best Meteorwrongs on the Planet - http://www.meteorman.org/Bestwrongs_index.htm
Best,
Tim Heitz
Midwest
Meteorman - http://www.meteorman.org
Home of the Meteorite
Pusher
Good question and a good suggestion.
One of the problems with ebay is they do not allow links to any pages that
also have sale pages on the same site. They want exclusive market. You can
link from your "me" page though, but that doesn't help the newbie as most
don't have a clue about how to get aro
I am really surprised that a sampler kit of meteorite meteorwrongs isn't
around. I have a fair amount of wrongs and they are superb learning
tools for the novice collector.
Slag by any other name,
Dave F.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good evening list,
Been a while since I threw in my 2 grams wo
Good evening list,
Been a while since I threw in my 2 grams worth on a subject. Tom, and others,
you bring up a good points with regards to size of meteorites and cost
relation, etc. It seems to me that meteorite auctions are a bit trickier to post
than say, Wedgewood china, Waterford crystal,
Seems it is BASH matteo day.Well my experince with him was this.2 years
ago he bought some meteorites from me for $180.00.Why he sent me cash I'll
never know.Especially if the ITALIAN postal system is so corrupt.He like
john gwilliam said,sent me only $20.00.He still owed me $160.00.I said
what is
At 01:39 PM 10/10/03 -0700, M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
--- John Gwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Matteo,
> I know there are several List members who have had
> to deal with your
> unorthodox and questionable business ethics,
> including myself. Most have
> kept quiet because they kn
October's harvest (and the month is not over yet):
dipshit - crap - nitwit - idiot - rip off - piss off - spam
stupidity - idiocy - money-hungry dealer - coward -
ass - ...
(only an excerpt - any meteorites out there ? ;-)
I do love this m e t e o r i t e list, C'mon gimme some
more. Just bac
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/10oct_doubleleonids.htm
The 2003 Leonid Meteor Shower
NASA Science News
October 10, 2003
An unusual double Leonid meteor shower is going to peak next
onth over parts of Asia and North America.
The Leonid meteor shower is coming. Twice.
Bill Cooke of
Matteo:
This is my last email I write on thisargument,
Does this mean you are leaving the list.again?
Gregory
Hi Steve and List,
I also find field reports such as this to be
interesting reading. Just think, we get to read about these trips as they
happen and our kids can read about them from later books and periodical
articles.
In fact, I hope Mike and others who recover
meteorites publish thei
> Matteo,
>
> Your mail is filtered into my trash bin but others
> continue to quote
> your e-mails on their posts. I do not want to be
> included in your
> "satisfied customer" group so I'll speak up as you
> have asked. In fact,
> I have spoken up for over a year if you had noticed.
> Have you
and Dave said...
"I personally
> would regard 0.25g of Calcalong Creek as 'huge'!"
dave >
IMCA#0092
Just ask Norbert Classen. He HAS a huge 0.25 gram
specimen of Calcalong Creek, and it is awesome!!!
ano
Stu wrote:
Mike,
Just wanted to thank you for taking me - and everyone else on the
List - along with you on your latest hunting adventure. I'm one of the,
shall we say, "less welloff" members of the List, and I can't afford to
jump on a plane and do an Indiana Jones like you do, so it is always
M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
>
> --- John Gwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Matteo,
> > I know there are several List members who have had
> > to deal with your
> > unorthodox and questionable business ethics,
> > including myself. Most have
> > kept quiet because they know it's
If you ask me, huge is in the eye of the beholder.Take for instance my
HUGE piece of RIFLE.It measures 0.7 grams.It measures 1.3 cm x 7 mm x 5
mm.To me that is huge because I doudt I will ever see another piece of
RIFLE, COLORADO.And on top of that, it has a nininger AML label with it.I
love this
--- John Gwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Matteo,
> I know there are several List members who have had
> to deal with your
> unorthodox and questionable business ethics,
> including myself. Most have
> kept quiet because they know it's good form to keep
> one's mouth shut most
> of the
Mike,
Thanks for making the effort to post a report of your adventure in
India. News like yours makes wading through the garbage on the Meteorite
List worth the effort.
and
Matteo,
I know there are several List members who have had to deal with your
unorthodox and questionable busines
Hello all, why can't people write 1500g Campo in their description instead
of saying huge Campo. Instead, they make people look at the auction to see
what the sellers idea of huge is. What would ebay be like if everyone simply
wrote "meteorite" in the description, you would have to look at every
a
and if you find a 0.01 gr. of Nogata is extra
Hugebut for me is many many huge a 3.92 gr. slice
of Barbotan, my birthday meteorite...all collectors
have a personal scale for meteorites.
Regards
Matteo
--- Dave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Personally and practically, a 2kg meteorite of
Personally and practically, a 2kg meteorite of any type usually I regard as 'huge' mainly because it would have cost me a lot of money - I have been collecting for a few years and I don't have anything approaching 2kg in size, so for me 'huge' is an appropriate adjective!
Also, I would, if I
Hello List, Please correct me if I am wrong! Please try to be
polite when doing so! : )
I think it hurts us all when some one uses misleading
tactics to sell meteorites. Why do I think that? I will tell you. Ebay is by far
the best, cheapest and easiest place to get meteorites. Lets say so
Hi,
Anyone out there is a reasonalbe sized (10-12g) Pultusk individual? I am
ideally looking for a provenanced one with museum numbers on it...
I do not want to spend what anymore what Matteo and I have been bidding over
on eBAy - Matteo - it's all yours!
I guess I'd like to spend around $130 or s
Great story, Mike, but I don't concider dying of a heart attack a meteorite kill. No more than someone dying of a heart attach if they found out they paid thousands of dollars for what latter turned out to be a piece of slag. Would you call that a meteorwrong death?
Howard WuMichael Farmer <[EMA
I joined this list in part so I wouldn't be so stupid about faux meteorites or over priced scams.
Howard WuDave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,I have to throw in my 2g's worth here - seems that some people on the listspend too much of their time trawling eBay looking for auctions to critici
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
October 6-10, 2003
o Two Craters (Released 6 October 2003)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031006a.html
o Ritchey Crater (Released 8 October 2003)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031008a.html
o The Summit of Olympus Mons (Released 9 October 2003)
http://themis.l
Thanks Dave
I liked the way you phrased that. I have been bypassing some of the posts
for the more interesting and informative ones like Mike's and Atul's. My
minor was anthropology, so I find hearing about India interesting. Its also
a look into what can be expected when one travels for any reaso
Dear All- and Mike Farmer
While poor people of the area have just had
their thached (straw) roofs blow off their Mud houses ,and their mud houses are
turning into more mud,and people are dying and even more will die from the
diseases to come,we get to hear about the carnage ,and learn about
Hi,
I have to throw in my 2g's worth here - seems that some people on the list
spend too much of their time trawling eBay looking for auctions to criticise
and debunk and publish their 'findings' to the list.
Fine in principle, but we are not here to police eBay - I think that "Caveat
Emptor" shoul
Hey Mike good to hear you at least managed a few grams, but sounds to me like you got more out of this one than some stones. Anyway thanks for the detailed account of your adventures and take care.
Later,
Ron
Mike,
Just wanted to thank you for taking me - and everyone else on the List - along with you on your latest hunting adventure. I'm one of the, shall we say, "less well off" members of the List, and I can't afford to jump on a plane and do an Indiana Jones like you do, so it is always a treat to b
Matteo, you are so full of %$%$. You claim to have
made a higher offer on a kilo than me? That is a neat
trick since I have not made a single offer on anything
as there is nothing to be had. The only piece I made
an offer on is sitting in my hotel safe, as I bought
it. The large pieces are firmly l
Good evening everyone, it is 10 pm here in Bhubaneswar
India. another rainy day, more flooding, lots of
problems.
I went back to Kendrapara today, and was able to
break through the absolutely hopeless Indian
beurocracy and see the meteorites.
I had to go to their version of a state or city hall,
Dear Steve and List,
I think your letter was very well put, and just about says, what alot of
us feel. When I joined this list, I was made aware of the fact, that we
are a diversified (multiplicity,variety ) group of individuals, with the
common ground, being our individual interests in Meteorites.
Dear Matteo;
As a list member I fully agree with Dave Andrews acessment and
statements of your situation.. We all have our own personalities, and
that tends to be a great thing (believe it or not). It keeps the list
from becoming so scientifically boring that we may sleep through the
next m
AMEN !
Believe me, I hate eBay!
Take it somewhere else.
As for the pieces that are being hawked there, let the buyer beware. And also any serious collector knows the source and the quality.
IMCA exists to help new collectors become acquainted with those that know the field and what to coll
Michael,
With the exception of the initial Matteo rant, which kind of turned me off, the India trip report I find very interesting. Keep this up; these on site field reports. That is where you shine.
Steve Schoner/ams
Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi everyone, internet here is
You know with all the slamming going on of everyone and every thing, it is
a nice breath of fresh air to see someone like MIKE FARMER doing what he
is doing.I thank him totally with all my being going out to places that I
never care to go to.Being out of work and making my priorities a full time
jo
Hi List, Just taking a poll, am I the only one who gets irritated at all the ebay crap that is on this list?
Now, we are not only complaining about the authenticity of a piece but the description too? You have to be kidding. Perhaps you need a hobby other than inspecting the wording of ebay auct
I have asked an opinion to you? You go to read my
feedbacks on ebay and write me where is my delays in
the delivery of a pack, not even one. Instead with
other here present persons of delays of it quite I
had, and above all people that has taken the money and
never sent the material, I repeat, I
I agree that categories like "huge", "museum quality" ect. are subjective
attributes.
- a 10g Tatahouine is indeed huge, a 10g Campo isn't - for a small collector
a 500g stone is huge and I found in some museum exhibitions some ugly rusted
pieces too...
And even "oriented" can be interpreted in dif
OK Matteo, you asked for it. I think you should back off of all your
"meteorwrongs" on eBay crap. "Frankly Scarlet, I don't give a damn!" You
are giving the IMCA a bad name with all your harrassment. Second of all,
you may despise the US collector/dealers, but most deliver their product
without
Hi Ryan,
Island Meteorite specializes in cutting irons for the industry. We have reasonable rates, and fast turn around.
Best Regards,
Geoff Cintron
Island Meteorite
http://www.islandmeteorite.com
We do have a standard for that. It's called a guarantee. We all have
different levels of experience and expertee's, not to mention eyesight.
Feedback and research help but they can be misleading as well. Nothing can
replace an established reputation of honesty and quality. Labels and
terminolog
Hi list, and we need urgently another standard for those, who claim
everything, which has as outside a different colour than inside to be fusion
crusted or crusted.
Proposal:
"rind" vs. "(fusion) crust"
Thanks too.
Martin A.
> Hello List, I have part of this figured out. We need a standard! Fo
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