Re: [uf-discuss] More responses to slashdot comments

2006-07-14 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On 7/13/06, Sho Kuwamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Exactly my point. There are two competing schema living in the same document: the world of HTML (semantically poor and unextensible), and the world of microformats. While this works out OK usually, I believe there are cases where the two worlds

Re: [uf-discuss] More responses to slashdot comments

2006-07-13 Thread Scott Reynen
On Jul 13, 2006, at 3:17 PM, Sho Kuwamoto wrote: Depending on the look I wanted to achieve, I might find myself needing to surround, say, the first three divs by another div (let's call it "leftColumn" because there is no semantic relationship between these three sections). Why isn't "leftColu

RE: [uf-discuss] More responses to slashdot comments

2006-07-13 Thread Sho Kuwamoto
Michael Leikam wrote: > s and s are not structurally equivalent. span > and div tags are general structural markup, while heading > tags are specifically defined in relation to other heading > tags. Collectively they define an outline for the page, > while the set of spans on a page defines nothi

Re: [uf-discuss] More responses to slashdot comments

2006-07-13 Thread Scott Reynen
On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Sho Kuwamoto wrote: For example, what is the difference between: a) This is an emphasized point vs. b) This is an emphasized point Presumably, (a) would be preferred over (b), although I personally prefer (b). (I think strong and em are copouts, but that's a

RE: [uf-discuss] More responses to slashdot comments

2006-07-13 Thread Michael Leikam
--- Sho Kuwamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Example A: > -- > > 5 out of 5 > stars > Crepes on Cole is awesome > ... > [snip] > Example B: > -- > > 5 out of 5 > stars > Crepes on Cole is awesome > ... > > > Ostensibly, the reason for preferring example A over > example B is that > t

RE: [uf-discuss] More responses to slashdot comments

2006-07-13 Thread Sho Kuwamoto
While I agree that the use of the class attribute in microformats is consistent with the intended use (i.e., to embed semantic information into HTML), I think there are some subtle gotchas to consider. My recollection is that when span and class were introduced, there were a lot of people who had

Re: [uf-discuss] More responses to slashdot comments

2006-07-13 Thread Ryan King
On Jul 12, 2006, at 5:49 PM, John Allsopp wrote: Tantek (and others) As I have too much time on my hands :-) Another draft response to some /. comments [SDC=Slashdot comment, MFR=Micrformats response] SDC: Mixing presentation and data - good... bad... good. But it gets better a little, e