RE: [Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes........

2003-10-02 Thread Peter Jessen
e the emperor wearing any clothes. Peter Jessen, Portland -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Victoria Heller Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:14 AM To: Minneapolis Forum Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes..

Re: [Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes........

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Johnson
Victoria Heller wrote: We need some arithmetic here. If you contribute $50,000 to your retirement plan, and draw $500,000 of benefits after you retire, who pays the difference? Nobody pays in $50,000 to social security and draws out $500,000 unless it's through disability or retiring early and t

Re: [Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes........

2003-10-02 Thread David Shove
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Victoria Heller wrote: > Jim Bernstein states: > > "Pensions are earned. They are not welfare." > > Vicky replies: > > We need some arithmetic here. > > If you contribute $50,000 to your retirement plan, and draw $500,000 > of benefits after you retire, who pays the difference

[Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes........

2003-10-02 Thread Victoria Heller
Jim Bernstein states: "Pensions are earned. They are not welfare." Vicky replies: We need some arithmetic here. If you contribute $50,000 to your retirement plan, and draw $500,000 of benefits after you retire, who pays the difference? In the case of public pensions (including social security)