> On Jan 2, 2018, at 19:10 , Randy Bush wrote:
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> if AS numbers are unused, what operational difference does it make?
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> but if you have the gloves and long forceps needed to deal with the rir
> policy , then there is a real need for inter-region AS transfer.
>
> randy
Why?
Seriously askin
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> - Original Message -
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> From: "Steve Noble"
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Tuesday, Janu
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 2:16 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> EXISTING number resources in ARIN region in particular are serviced under
> the RSA contract that include terms specifically informs the end user that
> ARIN is disclaiming itself from having any ability or authority to
> revoke any unused res
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- Original Message -
From: "Steve Noble"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 5:11:57 PM
Subject: Re: AS Numbers unused/sitting for long periods of time
Inaccurate whois data from ARIN is not a good way to tell anything as
ARIN is terrible to dea
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:46 PM, James Breeden wrote:
> I.e. some form of ARIN or global policy that basically says "If AS number
> not routed or whois updated or used in 24 months, said AS number can be
> public noticed via mailing list and website and then revoked and reissued
> to a pending, a
Internet Exchange route servers would be another case that would appear
unused to the broader internet, but shouldn't use a private ASN.
On 03/01/18 14:40, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:46 PM, James Breeden wrote:
>
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>> I'm amazed at the number of AS numbers that are ass
On 03/01/18 03:40, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:46 PM, James Breeden wrote:
I'm amazed at the number of AS numbers that are assigned, but not actively
being used.
'not actuvely being used' ... how would you (or anyone) know? what if they
were used only on some interna
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:46 PM, James Breeden wrote:
>
> I'm amazed at the number of AS numbers that are assigned, but not actively
> being used.
'not actuvely being used' ... how would you (or anyone) know? what if they
were used only on some internal part of a large public network which never
if AS numbers are unused, what operational difference does it make?
but if you have the gloves and long forceps needed to deal with the rir
policy , then there is a real need for inter-region AS transfer.
randy
On 1/2/18 2:46 PM, James Breeden wrote:
And before you come back with "Well they may be using it internally where it doesn't
need to be in the GRT" - that's why we have Private AS numbers.
I.e. some form of ARIN or global policy that basically says "If AS number not routed
or whois updated or
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:46 PM, James Breeden wrote:
> I'm amazed at the number of AS numbers that are assigned, but not actively
> being used. I'm not talking just like they are offline for a week or month,
> this is complete non-use of the AS in the global routing table within
> *years*. They a
day, January 02, 2018 5:12 PM
>To: nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: AS Numbers unused/sitting for long periods of time
>
>Inaccurate whois data from ARIN is not a good way to tell anything as ARIN is
>terrible to deal with when you need to update an address or phone number or
>any
Dear James,
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 10:46:35PM +, James Breeden wrote:
> Before I take this to the ARIN PPML, wanted to get NANOG's thoughts.
>
> I'm amazed at the number of AS numbers that are assigned, but not
> actively being used. I'm not talking just like they are offline for a
> week or
Inaccurate whois data from ARIN is not a good way to tell anything as
ARIN is terrible to deal with when you need to update an address or
phone number or anything. I know personally as I had to fight for years
to update the data on an ASN that ARIN was billing me to manage the data
for.
Chr
Just because a number is NOT VISIBLE on the global Internet, it does NOT mean
that it is not IN USE.
This applies to IPv4 addresses, IPv6 addresses and AS numbers.
Apart from legacy IPv4 addresses and legacy AS, these resources require annual
payments to maintain the assignment from the RIR.
M
Once upon a time, James Breeden said:
> I'm amazed at the number of AS numbers that are assigned, but not actively
> being used. I'm not talking just like they are offline for a week or month,
> this is complete non-use of the AS in the global routing table within
> *years*. They are completely
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