In a message written on Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 12:46:46PM -0800, Lasher, Donn
wrote:
> I realized that paid transit is down at almost obscene levels, but is
> that enough of a reason to increase hop-count, latencies, etc?
>
> Why disconnect from public mostly-free peering?
Let's look at some econo
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009, Lasher, Donn wrote:
that enough of a reason to increase hop-count, latencies, etc?
In what way is hop-count a valid measurement of network
preformance/quality?
Today with gigabit links serialisation-delay is a non-issue so hop-count
is not important anymore.
Regarding
Leo,
the DE-CIX pricing is now 500 Euro/month...since 1st october...see end
of that page.
Both DE-CIX and AMS-IX have decreased their pricing this year..almost at
the same time. I guess this is a move to stop company leaving public
exchanges...i have seen this trend, too.
Regards,
Jonas
On Wed,
On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Lasher, Donn wrote:
> This year I've been seeing what appears to be an increasing trend among
> service providers.. making the decision to leave public peering. I'm
> sure others on this list as seeing that trend as well. I have a couple
> of guesses, but I'm curious ,
Leo Bicknell wrote:
rate, and that helps offset some of the costs. I've oversimplified, and
it's a very complex problem for most providers; however I know many are
looking at the fees for peering ports go from being in the noise to a
huge part of their cost structure and that doesn't work.
Le
ly if you're talking at dollars per meg.
It doesn't make sense.
-S
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From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org]
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:20 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Leaving public peering?
In a message written on Wed, Dec 02, 20
On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Jonas Frey wrote:
> the DE-CIX pricing is now 500 Euro/month...since 1st october...see end
> of that page.
> Both DE-CIX and AMS-IX have decreased their pricing this year..almost at
> the same time. I guess this is a move to stop company leaving public
> exchanges...i h
On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Jonas Frey wrote:
>
>> the DE-CIX pricing is now 500 Euro/month...since 1st october...see end
>> of that page.
>> Both DE-CIX and AMS-IX have decreased their pricing this year..almost at
>> the same time. I guess
On 2 Dec 2009, at 20:46, Lasher, Donn wrote:
This year I've been seeing what appears to be an increasing trend
among
service providers.. making the decision to leave public peering.
Peering is often sold as 'cheaper than transit' - for everyone that is
a gross generalisation, for many net
>Check out this report on the success of peering :
>https://www.euro-ix.net/member/m/document/showDocument/id/158
This seems to be a protected document behind login-only section of the
site. Can anyone comment on wether the document should be publically
accessible? Would love to spread it ar
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:53:46 -0500 Ken Chase wrote:
>> Check out this report on the success of peering :
>> https://www.euro-ix.net/member/m/document/showDocument/id/158
> This seems to be a protected document behind login-only section of the
> site. Can anyone comment on wether the document shou
On Dec 3, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Jonas Frey wrote:
>
>> the DE-CIX pricing is now 500 Euro/month...since 1st october...see end
>> of that page.
>> Both DE-CIX and AMS-IX have decreased their pricing this year..almost at
>> the same time. I guess
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