Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-10-01 Thread Lauri Tirkkonen
On Thu, Oct 01 2015 14:29:32 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: > >> Actually I still notice some problems.. This morning in the direction OI > >> => omnios > >> things seemed okay. > >> Now, omnios => OI I just now experienced the hang again, and it is > >> repeatable. > >> > >> Could it be that your w

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-10-01 Thread Richard PALO
Le 01/10/15 14:23, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : > On Thu, Oct 01 2015 13:49:03 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: >> Le 01/10/15 11:58, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : >>> On Thu, Oct 01 2015 11:50:03 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: >> In that case, wouldn't setting tcp_tstamp_always on OI to '1' be better >> i

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-10-01 Thread Lauri Tirkkonen
On Thu, Oct 01 2015 13:49:03 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: > Le 01/10/15 11:58, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : > > On Thu, Oct 01 2015 11:50:03 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: > In that case, wouldn't setting tcp_tstamp_always on OI to '1' be better > in > this case (or would OI not honour that

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-10-01 Thread Richard PALO
Le 01/10/15 11:58, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : > On Thu, Oct 01 2015 11:50:03 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: In that case, wouldn't setting tcp_tstamp_always on OI to '1' be better in this case (or would OI not honour that setting correctly)? >>> >>> It wouldn't work. From what I can tell, thos

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-10-01 Thread Lauri Tirkkonen
On Thu, Oct 01 2015 11:50:03 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: > >>In that case, wouldn't setting tcp_tstamp_always on OI to '1' be better in > >>this case (or would OI not honour that setting correctly)? > > > >It wouldn't work. From what I can tell, those ndd settings only affect > >the SYN segments (ie

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-10-01 Thread Richard PALO
Le 30/09/15 10:02, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : On Wed, Sep 30 2015 09:56:47 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: To be clear, it's not implementing RFC 1323 (and not even *not* implementing 7323) that causes the issue. 1323 actually didn't specify what to do with non-timestamped segments on a timestamp-nego

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-30 Thread Lauri Tirkkonen
On Wed, Sep 30 2015 09:56:47 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: > >To be clear, it's not implementing RFC 1323 (and not even *not* > >implementing 7323) that causes the issue. 1323 actually didn't specify > >what to do with non-timestamped segments on a timestamp-negotiated > >connection, and illumos pre-5

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-30 Thread Richard PALO
Le 29/09/15 12:35, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : On Tue, Sep 29 2015 12:19:09 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: Since I'm not having any issues with netbsd (6.1), which seemingly is still at rfc1323 richard@omnis:/home/richard$ ssh netbsd.org /sbin/sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1323 net.inet.tcp.rfc1323 = 1 I'

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-29 Thread Lauri Tirkkonen
On Tue, Sep 29 2015 12:19:09 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: > Since I'm not having any issues with netbsd (6.1), which seemingly is still > at rfc1323 > >richard@omnis:/home/richard$ ssh netbsd.org /sbin/sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1323 > >net.inet.tcp.rfc1323 = 1 > > I'd like to do some additional tests i

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-29 Thread Richard PALO
Le 28/09/15 17:40, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : It just occurred to me that if timestamp options don't get negotiated at all on the connection, both peers should be fine with this injection and continue to function. So as a workaround you could try disabling timestamps on the oi_151a9 box. I see the

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-28 Thread Lauri Tirkkonen
On Mon, Sep 28 2015 16:20:03 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: > Le 28/09/15 15:46, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : > > On Mon, Sep 28 2015 08:21:46 -0400, Dan McDonald wrote: > >> > >>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: > >>> > >>> If 5850 is indeed the problem, you need to report this to the >

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-28 Thread Lauri Tirkkonen
On Mon, Sep 28 2015 16:20:03 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: > Le 28/09/15 15:46, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : > > On Mon, Sep 28 2015 08:21:46 -0400, Dan McDonald wrote: > >> > >>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: > >>> > >>> If 5850 is indeed the problem, you need to report this to the >

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-28 Thread Richard PALO
Le 28/09/15 15:46, Lauri Tirkkonen a écrit : > On Mon, Sep 28 2015 08:21:46 -0400, Dan McDonald wrote: >> >>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: >>> >>> If 5850 is indeed the problem, you need to report this to the >>> illumos developers list, including a deterministic way of >>> rep

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-28 Thread Lauri Tirkkonen
On Mon, Sep 28 2015 08:21:46 -0400, Dan McDonald wrote: > > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: > > > > If 5850 is indeed the problem, you need to report this to the > > illumos developers list, including a deterministic way of > > reproducing it. > > I see you filed bug 6264, wh

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-28 Thread Richard PALO
Le 28/09/15 14:21, Dan McDonald a écrit : > >> On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: >> >> If 5850 is indeed the problem, you need to report this to the illumos >> developers list, including a deterministic way of reproducing it. > > I see you filed bug 6264, which is a good first st

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-28 Thread Dan McDonald
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: > > If 5850 is indeed the problem, you need to report this to the illumos > developers list, including a deterministic way of reproducing it. I see you filed bug 6264, which is a good first step. Please make sure you summarize the how-to-rep

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-28 Thread Dan McDonald
If 5850 is indeed the problem, you need to report this to the illumos developers list, including a deterministic way of reproducing it. Funny though, the fix was brought forth because of specific middlebox behavior. It is POSSIBLE your middlebox is behaving differently than the bug-filer's mid

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-28 Thread Lauri Tirkkonen
On Thu, Sep 10 2015 11:28:12 +0200, Richard PALO wrote: > Le 08/09/15 14:12, Dan McDonald a écrit : > > > >>On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Richard PALO > >> wrote: > >> > >>before the traffic seemingly when things go sour... I notice a Window > >>changed to 1024?? > > > >Which side is advertising t

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-26 Thread Richard PALO
Le 26/09/15 17:33, Richard PALO a écrit : > Le 08/09/15 06:32, Richard PALO a écrit : >> Thought I would try snoop with port 22. >> >> From omnios, in one window I issued: >>> pfexec snoop -rv -d e1000g0 port 22 |& tee snoop.out >> >> From another I connected to the OI machine and did nothing furth

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-26 Thread Richard PALO
Le 08/09/15 06:32, Richard PALO a écrit : > Thought I would try snoop with port 22. > > From omnios, in one window I issued: >> pfexec snoop -rv -d e1000g0 port 22 |& tee snoop.out > > From another I connected to the OI machine and did nothing further (as it > hangs in that direction too): >> ss

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-10 Thread Richard PALO
Le 08/09/15 14:12, Dan McDonald a écrit : On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Richard PALO wrote: before the traffic seemingly when things go sour... I notice a Window changed to 1024?? Which side is advertising the window change again? And which side is running -gate from 2ed96329a073f74bd33f

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-10 Thread Richard PALO
Le 08/09/15 14:12, Dan McDonald a écrit : On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Richard PALO wrote: before the traffic seemingly when things go sour... I notice a Window changed to 1024?? Which side is advertising the window change again? And which side is running -gate from 2ed96329a073f74bd33f7

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-08 Thread Dan McDonald
> On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Richard PALO wrote: > > before the traffic seemingly when things go sour... I notice a Window changed > to 1024?? Which side is advertising the window change again? And which side is running -gate from 2ed96329a073f74bd33f766ab982be14f3205bc9 ? This thread has

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-09-07 Thread Richard PALO
Thought I would try snoop with port 22. >From omnios, in one window I issued: > pfexec snoop -rv -d e1000g0 port 22 |& tee snoop.out >From another I connected to the OI machine and did nothing further (as it >hangs in that direction too): > ssh xx.xx.xxx.xx In the attached snoop.output, I edite

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-30 Thread Richard PALO
Le 24/08/15 19:14, Eric Sproul a écrit : > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Richard PALO > wrote: >> notice inbound invalids and nomatches both ways... are they a concern? > > I have no idea. I might try adding an unconditional pass rule for the > OmniOS system to ensure it's not matching any

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-24 Thread Eric Sproul
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Richard PALO wrote: > notice inbound invalids and nomatches both ways... are they a concern? I have no idea. I might try adding an unconditional pass rule for the OmniOS system to ensure it's not matching any other ipfilter rules, or if possible, disable ipfilte

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-24 Thread Richard PALO
Le 24/08/15 18:05, Eric Sproul a écrit : > What you describe sounds network-related, perhaps just a coincidence > that it happened "recently". However, it also sounds like the > behavior changes depending on whether you use an older BE or a newer > one, so that makes it seem *less* likely that it

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-24 Thread Eric Sproul
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Richard PALO wrote: > The machines do not belong to the same subnet. They are physically remote > and the omnios machine is behind a router with port forwarding. > The OI machine *is* multihomed, though. > What strikes me most is that previous versions of omnios

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-24 Thread Richard PALO
Le 24/08/15 16:26, Eric Sproul a écrit : > On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Dan McDonald wrote: >> I'm not seeing it. Do you maybe have PathMTU issues, or are these >> same-subnet machines? > > This sounds a lot like a split-path routing issue, so knowing whether > these machines are on the sam

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-24 Thread Eric Sproul
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Dan McDonald wrote: > I'm not seeing it. Do you maybe have PathMTU issues, or are these > same-subnet machines? This sounds a lot like a split-path routing issue, so knowing whether these machines are on the same subnet would be key. I've had this happen in the

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-23 Thread Dan McDonald
I just tried this reproduction on my OmniOS box: 1.) ssh to OI 151a9. 2.) ssh from 151a9 to bloody 3.) cat $illumos-gate/usr/src/uts/common/inet/ip/ip.c (a large file) No breakage. 4.) "git log -p ip.c" -- it uses less -M by default, so that stopped waiting for input. 5.) "git log -p ip.c

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-21 Thread Richard PALO
Le 21/08/15 23:12, Dan McDonald a écrit : > >> On Aug 21, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Richard PALO >> wrote: >> >> There seems to be a recent regression somewhere as when I ssh in from >> an OI machine to my bloody dev machine running recent vanilla bits, my >> session hangs relatively soon. >> I'm using

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-21 Thread Richard PALO
Le 21/08/15 23:12, Dan McDonald a écrit : > >> On Aug 21, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Richard PALO wrote: >> >> There seems to be a recent regression somewhere as when I ssh in from >> an OI machine to my bloody dev machine running recent vanilla bits, my >> session hangs relatively soon. >> I'm using bas

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-21 Thread Dan McDonald
> On Aug 21, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Richard PALO wrote: > > There seems to be a recent regression somewhere as when I ssh in from > an OI machine to my bloody dev machine running recent vanilla bits, my > session hangs relatively soon. > I'm using bash as my login shell I used tcsh as mine, and my

[OmniOS-discuss] strangeness ssh into omnios from oi_151a9

2015-08-21 Thread Richard PALO
There seems to be a recent regression somewhere as when I ssh in from an OI machine to my bloody dev machine running recent vanilla bits, my session hangs relatively soon. I'm using bash as my login shell > richard@omnis:/home/richard$ bash --version > bash --version > GNU bash, version 4.3.33(1)-