Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-10 Thread Greg Keogh
I think this guy must be lurking in our group. Amazing coincidence for the topic -- Greg http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/how-the-internet-became-a-closed-shop-20121221-2brcp.html

RE: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-07 Thread Katherine Moss
Friday, January 04, 2013 6:37 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: More on cross-platform development Well said David. One thing I'd like to add to the conversation though is that I see people all the time that consider their mobile interfaces as a "low functionality add-on" to th

RE: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2013 9:35 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: More on cross-platform development On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Katherine Moss wrote: I suppose it's a question of who i

Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-04 Thread David Connors
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Katherine Moss wrote: > I suppose it’s a question of who is right in terms of the future. I > have read so many articles that insult .net to the core, and it kills me. > I’ll never forget the guy who called the .NET Framework and it’s set of > development tools a

RE: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-04 Thread Katherine Moss
uch of our time is being wasted in this century? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:33 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: More on cross-platform development I don't think you should try and p

Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Keogh
> > I don't think you should try and port complex business applications to a > phone, but specific features suit a phone. > Dead right! Your salon app is a perfect example. But as progress produces more smaller and useful devices of various kinds we developers suffer with more code and app version

Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
I don't think you should try and port complex business applications to a phone, but specific features suit a phone. For example I sell a Beauty Salon specific Point of Sale SAAS package. Will I could never imagine anyone trying to run their whole business from it, my users are crying out for a mobi

Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread Greg Keogh
Thank chaps, I've forwarded the bodies of your replies to my colleague. Ian, I'm certainly aftraid that consumer demand for apps on mobile devices will result in a dumb versions of sophisticatd applications and will probably require developing parallel apps. I have some Windows WinForms and WPF ap

Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread BC
I'm not quite sure I follow Craig - what is missing from Xamarin's toolset that MS may add? From my experience (admittedly not exhaustive), Xamarin already have a first class toolkit for cross platform mobile and desktop apps. Web's not quite where I'd like it to be, but with HTML5 / CSS3 etc it's

Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
I would love if MS bought Xamarin and created a first class .NET tool for developing Mobile and cross platform apps. The only problem I can see is that Apple and Google would try and block it. Imagine where .NET would be today if MS had executed on cross platform the > way Xamarin do. > >

Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread David Connors
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:15 PM, BC wrote: > I think David is on the money Greg. > > Have a look at > http://blog.xamarin.com/eight-reasons-c-sharp-is-the-best-language-for-mobile-development/ > if > you're interested in Xamarin's view of the cross platform space and C# / > .NET's fit. > Imagine

Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread BC
I think David is on the money Greg. Have a look at http://blog.xamarin.com/eight-reasons-c-sharp-is-the-best-language-for-mobile-development/ if you're interested in Xamarin's view of the cross platform space and C# / .NET's fit. Brenden On 4 January 2013 14:11, David Connors wrote: > > > > O

Re: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread David Connors
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Greg Keogh wrote: > The former means that the apps will be crippled because HTML5 just can't > reproduce the rich UI of GDI/WPF or Silverlight, > Depends on the rendering engine. Throw this in Chrome: http://www.htmlfivewow.com/slide1, my jaw dropped at this: http

RE: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread Rob Andrew
approaches on the 'simpler' environments.Rob- Original Message - From: Ian Thomas [mailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au] To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 12:00:39 +0800 Subject: RE: More on cross-platform development GregA recent experience with a simple Android application (t

RE: More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread Ian Thomas
tion in a less superficial fashion. As a side issue, isn't Silverlight out the door now? _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:30 AM To:

More on cross-platform development

2013-01-03 Thread Greg Keogh
A few months ago I posted a question in here for general advice about cross-platform development for Windows, Android, iPad and iPhone. I asked on behalf of a colleague who has a mature sophisticated Windows desktop app and a simplified Silverlight 4 version. The same chap rang me yesterday in a b