* Peter Eisentraut ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Am Samstag, 25. März 2006 17:27 schrieb Stephen Frost:
> > I think what Peter would want is for us to track CURRENT_USER (the role
> > who logged in) and to always add the CURRENT_USER to the list of roles
> > available after a 'SET ROLE'. That would
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 12:01:20 -0800,
Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> As of Monday I'm at Sun Microsystems. Since I'll be officially the
> "PostgreSQL Community Guy" there I expect to have a lot more time to devote
> to community stuff. Not that GreenPlum hasn't been generous with supporting
> me
Marc,
> Its relatively easy for a Business to develop a roadmap, since the
> managers delegate their programmers to work on specific features ... in
> the case of an OSS project, there are no "assignment of features to work
> on" happening ... ppl work on what is of interest to them ... so coming
Its relatively easy for a Business to develop a roadmap, since the
managers delegate their programmers to work on specific features ... in
the case of an OSS project, there are no "assignment of features to work
on" happening ... ppl work on what is of interest to them ... so coming up
with a
Satoshi,
On 3/21/06 3:59 PM, "satoshi nagayasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, we also need to know why business people want
> to know about the future plan. For the business people,
> the roadmap is used to know the software is fit to
> their (growing) business, not only now but in the fu
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 07:16:13PM +0100, Jim Nasby wrote:
> On Mar 25, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> >"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:49:00PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> >>>I think we've got that one actually. It's domains as PL-function
> >>>outp
Josh Berkus wrote:
Folks,
As of Monday I'm at Sun Microsystems. Since I'll be officially the
"PostgreSQL Community Guy" there I expect to have a lot more time to devote
to community stuff. Not that GreenPlum hasn't been generous with supporting
me (they have, very much so) but Sun has offer
Hi Josh,
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 12:01 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> As of Monday I'm at Sun Microsystems.
Congrats!
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Folks,
As of Monday I'm at Sun Microsystems. Since I'll be officially the
"PostgreSQL Community Guy" there I expect to have a lot more time to devote
to community stuff. Not that GreenPlum hasn't been generous with supporting
me (they have, very much so) but Sun has offered me some opportunit
Tom,
> BTW, pretty pictures such as Josh draws in the above talk should not be
> confused with reality ;-).
NOTHING I say should be confused with reality.
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On Mar 25, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:49:00PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
I think we've got that one actually. It's domains as PL-function
output
types that aren't checked. Also plpgsql fails to enforce domain
checks
Guys,
> I just wanted to take a minute to say a very big thank you to everyone who
> has made PostgresQL the outstanding database that it is.
So, can I quote you on the PostgreSQL web site?
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On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 05:38:26PM +, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 16:24 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
>
> > I agree. However, if it's the overhead of calling gettimeofday() that
> > slows everything down, perhaps we should tackle that end. For example,
> > have a sampling
Am Samstag, 25. März 2006 17:27 schrieb Stephen Frost:
> I think what Peter would want is for us to track CURRENT_USER (the role
> who logged in) and to always add the CURRENT_USER to the list of roles
> available after a 'SET ROLE'. That would at least get us a little
> closer to the spec though
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 16:24 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> I agree. However, if it's the overhead of calling gettimeofday() that
> slows everything down, perhaps we should tackle that end. For example,
> have a sampling mode that only times say 5% of the executed nodes.
>
> EXPLAIN ANALYZ
Am Samstag, 25. März 2006 16:10 schrieb Tom Lane:
> No, the current implementation is a compromise between exact standards
> compatibility and backwards compatibility with our historical "groups"
> behavior. I'm not really prepared to toss the latter overboard.
My two major sticking points here a
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Tom Lane said:
Why in the world is cvsup linked to X libraries? Surely it does not
need a GUI.
The client has GUI and non-GUI modes. For command-line ops use the -g flag
or unset DISPLAY.
Apparently n
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Tom Lane wrote:
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
$ ldd bin/cvsup
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xe000)
libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7f5b000)
libXaw.so.7 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7 (0xb7eff000)
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Tom Lane said:
Why in the world is cvsup linked to X libraries? Surely it does not
need a GUI.
The client has GUI and non-GUI modes. For command-line ops use the -g flag
or unset DISPLAY.
Apparently not only the CVSup authors chose a weird langua
* Tom Lane ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > My concern here is to arrive at a standards conforming role system.
> > Clearly
> > we've established that the current one doesn't do it. Moreover, I'm now
> > convinced that some aspects of the current im
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> Tom Lane said:
>
> > Why in the world is cvsup linked to X libraries? Surely it does not
> > need a GUI.
>
> The client has GUI and non-GUI modes. For command-line ops use the -g flag
> or unset DISPLAY.
Apparently not only the CVSup authors chose a weird language, they
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 04:24:05PM +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> I agree. However, if it's the overhead of calling gettimeofday() that
> slows everything down, perhaps we should tackle that end. For example,
> have a sampling mode that only times say 5% of the executed nodes.
>
> EXPLAIN
Tom Lane said:
> Why in the world is cvsup linked to X libraries? Surely it does not
> need a GUI.
>
The client has GUI and non-GUI modes. For command-line ops use the -g flag
or unset DISPLAY.
My crontab entry looks like this:
3 * * * * /usr/bin/cvsup -g -r 25 /home/cvsmirror/postgres.cvsup
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:00:51AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Simon Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I would like to implement an additional mode for EXPLAIN ANALYZE that
> > does no timing instrumentation at all. Most of the time just looking for
> > differences between estimated and actual row
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:49:00PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> I think we've got that one actually. It's domains as PL-function output
>> types that aren't checked. Also plpgsql fails to enforce domain checks
>> on its local variables.
> So is this the
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My concern here is to arrive at a standards conforming role system. Clearly
> we've established that the current one doesn't do it. Moreover, I'm now
> convinced that some aspects of the current implementation arose from an
> attempt to implement
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> $ ldd bin/cvsup
> linux-gate.so.1 => (0xe000)
> libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7f5b000)
> libXaw.so.7 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7 (0xb7eff000)
> libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0xb7ee9000)
>
Simon Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I would like to implement an additional mode for EXPLAIN ANALYZE that
> does no timing instrumentation at all. Most of the time just looking for
> differences between estimated and actual row counts is all you need.
I don't really agree with that premise .
Tom Lane wrote:
> Neil Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I agree that investigating alternatives would be a good idea: AFAIK
> > there's no easy way to build cvsup on Linux/AMD64 (without patches and
> > more pain than I'm willing to endure), so I use cvsup on one machine and
> > then periodic
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 12:24:00PM +, Simon Riggs wrote:
> memory. Using too much memory could also impact overall elapsed time
> when we have concurrent users, so the question is should we optimise
> resources for the multi-user case or for the single user case? Where is
> the right balance po
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:49:00PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Josh Berkus writes:
> > you missed one. Domains as parameters to functions are not
> > enforced.
>
> I think we've got that one actually. It's domains as PL-function output
> types that aren't checked. Also plpgsql fails to enforce
Am Samstag, 25. März 2006 01:02 schrieb Stephen Frost:
> If there are use cases where what we're doing is causing problems for
> users who are looking for what the SQL spec has exactly, please let us
> know.. Given that other databases don't religiously follow the SQL spec
> wrt roles either makes
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 10:03 +, Simon Riggs wrote:
> Recent test results show that with a 512MB test sort we can reclaim
> 97% of memory during final merge with only a noise level (+2%)
> increase in overall elapsed time. (Thats just an example, your mileage
> may vary). So a large query would
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 21:59 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> I'm betting that a
> big part of your issue is that the EXPLAIN ANALYZE instrumentation
> overhead is (1) significant
I would like to implement an additional mode for EXPLAIN ANALYZE that
does no timing instrumentation at all. Most of the time
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