Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
I was just updating polish mysql.xml, and I must say that original version is a real mess when it comes to examples. There are lot of different naming and coding conventions. I think this file needs general review of its examples. Yes, we are already in the discussion of coding standards.

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Slawomir Pucia
Can you add anything to our coding conventions discussion? First of all, I'm after PEAR coding standard in examples. However, there are some elements which are not covered by PEAR docs: 1. Always use the same values for server, userneme, password and database name, when connecting to

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Egon Schmid
From: Slawomir Pucia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you add anything to our coding conventions discussion? First of all, I'm after PEAR coding standard in examples. However, there are some elements which are not covered by PEAR docs: First of all you should know, that the first writting of PHPDOC

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
First of all you should know, that the first writting of PHPDOC was only a rewrite of Rasmus PHP/FI manual. More and more authors and contributors asked many times for a coding standard. So there we included some in the source. Some things were covered in the old howto (for those who can't

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Egon Schmid
www.concertband.de First of all you should know, that the first writting of PHPDOC was only a rewrite of Rasmus PHP/FI manual. More and more authors and contributors asked many times for a coding standard. So there we included some in the source. Some things were covered in the old

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
See version 1.1 of README. The latest version have now only a link to the howto.tar file. OK, I have seen that file now. http://cvs.php.net/co.php/phpdoc/README?r=1.1 Look at the function skeleton for example in that file: function some_code($foo) { /* we all agree that four spaces of

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Egon Schmid
From: Gabor Hojtsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] See version 1.1 of README. The latest version have now only a link to the howto.tar file. OK, I have seen that file now. http://cvs.php.net/co.php/phpdoc/README?r=1.1 Look at the function skeleton for example in that file: function some_code($foo)

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
This file is not that much different than the current howto contents about conventions. This 1.1 really have no coding conventions, just some skeletons. No rules about how to write PHP code, except the ?php ? form convention in point 5. So where we can find the previously written down

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Hi, On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:38:45 +0100 Gabor Hojtsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do others think about that? I give a +1 for adapting the PEAR coding standard for Manual examples. Some things must be recognized. At first PEAR does have a excellent error handling, but it is to complex to

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Slawomir Pucia
$variables shoud be concatenated with '. instead of using $var strng. What is the reason? If there aren't any efficiency considerations then IMHO $var strng is more clear. slawek-

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread James Moore
What do others think about that? I give a +1 for adapting the PEAR coding standard for Manual examples. -1 for anything complicated in the manual. Keep everything clear and concise why do we need to clutter examples with PEAR error everywhere (Nothing against pear I think its great but I

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Slawomir Pucia
-1 for anything complicated in the manual. Keep everything clear and concise why do we need to clutter examples with PEAR error everywhere AFAIK the idea is to adapt PEAR *coding standard* to examples, not to use PEAR itself. slawek-

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Philip Olson
I don't think anyone means 'use pear' in the examples, just the standard. Like, what makes for a defining a function, construct spacing, etc. Odds are the pear coding standard will be a base which will be modified to suit phpdoc needs. Regarding whether to use echo or print, concat variables or

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Hi, On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 19:37:02 +0100 Slawomir Pucia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $variables shoud be concatenated with '. instead of using $var strng. What is the reason? If there aren't any efficiency considerations then IMHO $var strng is more clean personal opinion, I think $var.'string'

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Hi, On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:59:52 + (GMT) Philip Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And fwiw, I'm against forcing 'or die' formatting in any example, it's not all that flexible. can you please give an example where 'or die()' is 'not flexible'. Jan -- Q: Thank Jan? A:

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Slawomir Pucia
Regarding whether to use echo or print, concat variables or not, etc. No need to get that specific imho. Just the basics, like formatting. It simply looks nicer for reader if all examples (at least in one chapter) are similar. Look at these lines from mysql.xml: mysql_connect(mysql_host,

[PHP-DOC] Coding Std. [was: Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review]

2001-12-23 Thread Marcin Dbrowski 'DomBal'
Hi there. I thought I'll start a new topic for this. You won't punish me for that? :P What do others think about that? I give a +1 for adapting the PEAR coding standard for Manual examples. +1 from me. Slawomir Pucia said some mails ago, we should be consistent about using ' or for

Re: [PHP-DOC] Coding Std. [was: Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review]

2001-12-23 Thread James Moore
$variables shoud be concatenated with '. instead of using $var strng. -1. I prefer $var string. $var. string is less ambigious. Actually it should be $var.' string' as $var string and '$var string' behave differently $var.' string' and $var. string work the same. - James

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Philip Olson
can you please give an example where 'or die()' is 'not flexible'. I am referring to 'or' specifically. For example: $conn = mysql_connect($host, $user, $pass) or die('Connection failed'); Okay that works. But let's say one wants to do multiple statements on failure, the following will not

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-23 Thread Philip Olson
Not sure if I agree they need to be identical, I did last month but now it doesn't seem like a big deal (pending discussion). Variety is the spice of life :) Regarding below examples, 'single quotes' should be used in every instance. The spacing looks fine, though. And, whether or not to

[PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-22 Thread Slawomir Pucia
I was just updating polish mysql.xml, and I must say that original version is a real mess when it comes to examples. There are lot of different naming and coding conventions. I think this file needs general review of its examples. slawek-

Re: [PHP-DOC] MySQL examples need review

2001-12-22 Thread Philip Olson
Hi Slawek- Yes, many agree. There is a discussion on whether or not to use a coding standard in php examples and if so what standard to use/define. See the recent thread on 'doc standards'. regards, Philip Olson On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Slawomir Pucia wrote: I was just updating polish