Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Noel Jones
On 4/27/2012 2:17 PM, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 03:12 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: >> For small sites, postscreen has an up-front blacklist that kicks >> off clients before wasting resources on them. > > Although I was warned off postscreen in an earlier post being 'he

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Noel Jones
On 4/27/2012 2:12 PM, /dev/rob0 wrote: > Postfix is going to do a reverse DNS lookup of any connecting client, > followed by a forward lookup of the PTR name received. These are done in the postfix/smtpd client. > This is fine > for most sites. Small sites can save some of this using postscre

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 03:12 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > For small sites, postscreen has an up-front blacklist that kicks > off clients before wasting resources on them. Although I was warned off postscreen in an earlier post being 'heavier' than the checks against locally cached DNS, your comm

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Noel Jones
On 4/27/2012 1:54 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote: > Just as an interesting point from a fairly large site (fastmail.fm) we > do something very like that. We run a standalone daemon, and we keep > a "bad list" of IPs who get dumped immediately without even a DNS lookup. > > One of our patches to postfix

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread /dev/rob0
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:02:05PM -0700, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 08:54 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > Just as an interesting point from a fairly large site > > (fastmail.fm) we do something very like that. We run a > > standalone daemon, and we keep a "bad list" of IP

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Wietse Venema
kar...@mailcan.com: > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 08:54 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > Just as an interesting point from a fairly large site (fastmail.fm) we > > do something very like that. We run a standalone daemon, and we keep > > a "bad list" of IPs who get dumped immediately without even a

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 02:04 PM, /dev/rob0 wrote: > But consider this: the TTL of a DNSBL listing is a feature. Sometimes > legitimate sites will be listed, for example, in the CBL. Once they > clean up the problem, do you still want to block them? That's not within the scope of my use case.

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2012-04-27 Dennis Guhl wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:16:47PM +0200, Ansgar Wiechers wrote: [ reject_non_fqdn_recipient ] >> For my personal mail server I use this rule, too. However, you need >> to be aware that it might reject some legit mail (e.g. from mail >> servers configured by stu

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread /dev/rob0
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 09:37:46AM -0700, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 05:32 PM, Jim Reid wrote: > > This is beginning to smell very > > much like something the DNS already provides for free. > > If that auto-expiry hash table functionality is not already build > into Po

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Noel Jones
On 4/27/2012 1:57 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Den 2012-04-27 17:55, kar...@mailcan.com skrev: > >> reject_unauth_destination, reject_unlisted_recipient, > > reject_unlisted_recipient is not needed AFTER reject_unauth_destination > Yes it is, they do different things. reject_unauth_destinatio

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 08:54 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote: > Just as an interesting point from a fairly large site (fastmail.fm) we > do something very like that. We run a standalone daemon, and we keep > a "bad list" of IPs who get dumped immediately without even a DNS lookup. > > One of our patc

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-04-27 17:55, kar...@mailcan.com skrev: reject_unauth_destination, reject_unlisted_recipient, reject_unlisted_recipient is not needed AFTER reject_unauth_destination

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 05:32 PM, Jim Reid wrote: > On 27 Apr 2012, at 17:20, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > > > Is there any way to prevent Postfix from making those repeated DNS > > checks, regardless of whether it's externally to Spamhaus' servers, or > > to a locally cached DNS result? > > No.

Re: postmap ldap lookups and case folding

2012-04-27 Thread btb
On Apr 27, 2012, at 11.43, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > Your LDAP schema should specify certfingerprint as a case-insensitive > attribute. This is a hexadecimal number (with some ":" characters > thrown in for readability), and the case of A-F is insignificant. copied/pasted from my previous message-

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 02:20 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > kar...@mailcan.com: > Each Postfix SMTP server process is reused. > > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#max_use > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#max_idle That answers my question. Both of the defaults seem to fit nicely eno

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 08:16 PM, Ansgar Wiechers wrote: > >>> reject_non_fqdn_recipient > For my personal mail server I use this rule, too. However, you need to > be aware that it might reject some legit mail (e.g. from mail servers > configured by stupid, but valid, customers), hence the

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Dennis Guhl
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:16:47PM +0200, Ansgar Wiechers wrote: > On 2012-04-27 kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 06:43 PM, Bastian Blank wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:55:15AM -0700, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > >>> reject_non_fqdn_recipient > >> > >> Why? > > >

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Wietse Venema
kar...@mailcan.com: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 01:47 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > I'd still think that a local check by Postfix to an 'auto-expiring hash > > > table' (unclear so far it that can be done) to which the 'bad' address > > > > Each Postfix SMTP server caches its own DNSBL lookup resu

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2012-04-27 kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 06:43 PM, Bastian Blank wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:55:15AM -0700, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: >>> reject_non_fqdn_recipient >> >> Why? > > Because countless documentation examples suggest it, including in "The > Postfi

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Dennis Guhl
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:58:32AM -0700, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 01:47 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > I'd still think that a local check by Postfix to an 'auto-expiring hash > > > table' (unclear so far it that can be done) to which the 'bad' address > > > > Each Post

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 01:47 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > > I'd still think that a local check by Postfix to an 'auto-expiring hash > > table' (unclear so far it that can be done) to which the 'bad' address > > Each Postfix SMTP server caches its own DNSBL lookup results. Those > results are not

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Wietse Venema
kar...@mailcan.com: > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 05:23 PM, Jim Reid wrote: > > The info will already be cached at your local DNS server. So you've > snip. > > Nicely explained. > > > My advice is to leave this alone. It's already working at maximum > > efficiency pretty much straight out

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 06:43 PM, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:55:15AM -0700, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > > smtpd_recipient_restrictions = > > check_recipient_access hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/conf/bozos > > Remove or at least move _after_ reject_unauth_destination.

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
Please respond to the list as well, thanks. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 05:38 PM, Jim Reid wrote: > Er, think about this. How will postscreen do those RBL checks? Clearly, as I said I'm still reading, I'm not sure. > It will do DNS lookups! Right. The 1st time. And if it *was* capable of storin

Re: Sending SMS

2012-04-27 Thread Stephane Wirtel
I'm really interested by this use case. Written from my iPhone ! Le 27 avr. 2012 à 18:00, Charles Marcus a écrit : > On 2012-04-27 11:38 AM, Vishal Agarwal wrote: >> Is it possible to send SMS to mobiles via postfix. Any >> help/support/clue will be appereciated. > > Most phone service provid

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:55:15AM -0700, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > smtpd_recipient_restrictions = > check_recipient_access hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/conf/bozos Remove or at least move _after_ reject_unauth_destination. This is prone for open relay. > reject_non_fqdn_recipient Why?

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 05:32 PM, Jim Reid wrote: > This is beginning to smell very > much like something the DNS already provides for free. If that auto-expiry hash table functionality is not already build into Postfix (which would be kind of nice to have for other things to; may look into i

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Jim Reid
On 27 Apr 2012, at 17:20, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: Is there any way to prevent Postfix from making those repeated DNS checks, regardless of whether it's externally to Spamhaus' servers, or to a locally cached DNS result? No. Well you could but it would be futile make-work that adds needless

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 05:23 PM, Jim Reid wrote: > The info will already be cached at your local DNS server. So you've snip. Nicely explained. > My advice is to leave this alone. It's already working at maximum > efficiency pretty much straight out of the box and there are no > meaningf

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Dennis Guhl
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 09:20:21AM -0700, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 06:09 PM, Dennis Guhl wrote: > > The caching is done in your local resolver, not in postfix. [..] > Is there any way to prevent Postfix from making those repeated DNS > checks, regardless of whether it'

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Jim Reid
On 27 Apr 2012, at 16:55, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: In the end it's getting blocked, and that's what I want. But, if I understand how this works, every one of those rejects is a DNS check to spamhaus, and some postfix load on my server. Can I somehow configure to be more efficient about thi

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 06:09 PM, Dennis Guhl wrote: > The caching is done in your local resolver, not in postfix. Ok, I can check that and make sure that those results are being returned from my LAN DNS server's cache. Is there any way to prevent Postfix from making those repeated DNS checks, r

Re: Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread Dennis Guhl
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:55:15AM -0700, kar...@mailcan.com wrote: > I just installed a Postfix server and enabled DNSBL-based rejection with [..] > In every case though there are multiple connections made with multiple > rejects. For example [..] > In the end it's getting blocked, and that's

Re: Sending SMS

2012-04-27 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2012-04-27 11:38 AM, Vishal Agarwal wrote: Is it possible to send SMS to mobiles via postfix. Any help/support/clue will be appereciated. Most phone service providers have a format for sending texts to recipients via smtp... For example, for TMobile users, it is phonenum...@tmomail.net

Re: notification messages

2012-04-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.04.2012 17:53, schrieb Amira Othman: > To control the path of non-delivery notifications, the proper > procedure is to set an appropriate envelope sender (SMTP MAIL FROM) > address. > > You will referred to the correct procedure no matter how many times > you ask for an incorrect one. > >

Can I improve the efficiency of my dnsbl reject configuration?

2012-04-27 Thread karf96
I just installed a Postfix server and enabled DNSBL-based rejection with smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_recipient_access hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/conf/bozos, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination, reject_unlisted_recipie

Re: postfix non-smtpd-command issues

2012-04-27 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:58:24AM -0400, Larry G. Wapnitsky wrote: > I have a postfix server set up to receive specific messages bounced from > an external mail gateway for milter processing. I'm noticing in the > logs that, in some cases (albeit rare ones), parts of the message are > being pass

RE: notification messages

2012-04-27 Thread Amira Othman
> I need to prevent all notification messages of a domain from being sent to > outside users that sends mail through postfix. Because the application that > push mails already handles bounces so no need of notification to be sent > again to the actual sender What you describe handles only mail de

Re: postmap ldap lookups and case folding

2012-04-27 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 08:43:56PM -0400, b...@bitrate.net wrote: > OK, thanks for the clarification. The impetus for this question > - I was setting up check_ccert_access to use an ldap lookup, and > was using an ldap attribute whose matching rules happened to be > case sensitive. I'd copied/pa

Sending SMS

2012-04-27 Thread Vishal Agarwal
Hi, Is it possible to send SMS to mobiles via postfix. Any help/support/clue will be appereciated. Thanks/regards, Vishal Agarwal

RE: postfix non-smtpd-command issues

2012-04-27 Thread Larry G. Wapnitsky
Forgot the postconf - n: alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases append_dot_mydomain = no biff = no config_directory = /etc/postfix mailbox_size_limit = 0 message_size_limit = 0 milter_default_action = accept milter_protocol = 6 mydestination = mailproc.wrtde

postfix non-smtpd-command issues

2012-04-27 Thread Larry G. Wapnitsky
As a follow-up to [this question][1], I have more issues appearing that are related but a bit more complex than initially perceived. [1]: http://serverfault.com/questions/379964/postfix-unknown-command I have a postfix server set up to receive specific messages bounced from an external

Re: notification messages

2012-04-27 Thread Wietse Venema
Amira Othman: > I need to prevent all notification messages of a domain from being sent to > outside users that sends mail through postfix. Because the application that > push mails already handles bounces so no need of notification to be sent > again to the actual sender What you describe handle

RE: notification messages

2012-04-27 Thread Amira Othman
On 4/26/2012 10:46 AM, Amira Othman wrote: > Hi all > I am working on project that requires notification messages of delivery not > to be sent to users. I asked before and you told me that it's not good idea > to disable notifications so what I need now is to redirect all notifications > for each