[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
Don't accept mail from home networks. For example, use "reject_dbl_client zen.spamhaus.org". For this you must use your own DNS resolver, not the DNSresolver from your ISP. On 23.05.24 07:00, Northwind via Postfix-users wrote: will this also stop the valid client's SMTP connection? thank you W

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users
On 23/05/2024 14:27, Scott Techlist via Postfix-users wrote: All of these entries are using the LOGIN mech. Unless you have an extremely old outlook express MUA (or similar) you xan and should be using the PLAIN mech. You can eliminate all of the above attacks by removing LOGIN from the list of

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 11:27:15PM -0500, Scott Techlist via Postfix-users wrote: > >All of these entries are using the LOGIN mech. Unless you have an > >extremely old outlook express MUA (or similar) you xan and should be > >using the PLAIN mech. You can eliminate all of the above attacks by >

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Scott Techlist via Postfix-users
>All of these entries are using the LOGIN mech. Unless you have an >extremely old outlook express MUA (or similar) you xan and should be >using the PLAIN mech. You can eliminate all of the above attacks by >removing LOGIN from the list of mechs you accept. Peter: I too see a lot of these so I w

[pfx] how disable DSN pipe

2024-05-22 Thread Aleksandr Kolesnikov via Postfix-users
Hi All, the resubmit service is configured in master.cf: resubmit  unix  -   n   n   -   10  pipe   flags=Rq user=nobody null_sender=   argv=/usr/local/libexec/resubmit_mail.sh -N success -- ${recipient} if the user requests a DSN,

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 12:19:03PM -0500, Greg Sims wrote: > [root@mail01 postfix]# postconf -nf > maximal_backoff_time = 16m > minimal_backoff_time = 2m > queue_run_delay = 2m FWIW (not related to your immediate issue) I would not recommend such a short maximal backoff, you're potentiall

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users
On 23/05/2024 08:33, Northwind via Postfix-users wrote: Hello list, In the last two days, my mail system (small size) met attacks. mail.log shows a lot of this stuff: May 23 06:24:29 mx postfix/smtpd[2655149]: warning: unknown[194.169.175.17]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: UGFzc3dvcmQ6 Ma

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread julio covolato via Postfix-users
Em 22/05/2024 19:33, Northwind via Postfix-users escreveu: Hello list, In the last two days, my mail system (small size) met attacks. mail.log shows a lot of this stuff: May 23 06:24:29 mx postfix/smtpd[2655149]: warning: unknown[194.169.175.17]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: UGFzc3dvcmQ6

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Northwind via Postfix-users
Good ideas. thanks a lot Peter. Things of note from the log entries above: 1/2 of the entries are from the smtp (port 25) service.  This service should be for MX communication only and should not accept pauthentication.  You can eliminate 1/2 of the attempts just by disabling authenticatio

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Peter via Postfix-users
On 23/05/24 10:55, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote: 2. How to strengthen email system security to stop this? Don't accept mail from home networks. For example, use "reject_dbl_client zen.spamhaus.org". For this you must use your own DNS resolver, not the DNSresolver from your ISP. He's

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Peter via Postfix-users
On 23/05/24 10:33, Northwind via Postfix-users wrote: Hello list, In the last two days, my mail system (small size) met attacks. mail.log shows a lot of this stuff: May 23 06:24:29 mx postfix/smtpd[2655149]: warning: unknown[194.169.175.17]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: UGFzc3dvcmQ6 May

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Northwind via Postfix-users
will this also stop the valid client's SMTP connection? thank you Wietse. Don't accept mail from home networks. For example, use "reject_dbl_client zen.spamhaus.org". For this you must use your own DNS resolver, not the DNSresolver from your ISP. ___

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Wietse Venema via Postfix-users: > Northwind via Postfix-users: > > Hello list, > > > > In the last two days, my mail system (small size) met attacks. > > > > mail.log shows a lot of this stuff: > > > > May 23 06:24:29 mx postfix/smtpd[2655149]: warning: > > unknown[194.169.175.17]: SASL LOGIN

[pfx] Re: Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Northwind via Postfix-users: > Hello list, > > In the last two days, my mail system (small size) met attacks. > > mail.log shows a lot of this stuff: > > May 23 06:24:29 mx postfix/smtpd[2655149]: warning: > unknown[194.169.175.17]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: UGFzc3dvcmQ6 This just wast

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Greg Sims via Postfix-users: > > It is assumed that you're not a victim of systemd-journald log mangling. > > It may be dropping some messages, and recording others out of order, > > breaking "collate". On Linux systems where systemd is doing the > > logging, you'll want to have Postfix writing it

[pfx] Strengthen email system security

2024-05-22 Thread Northwind via Postfix-users
Hello list, In the last two days, my mail system (small size) met attacks. mail.log shows a lot of this stuff: May 23 06:24:29 mx postfix/smtpd[2655149]: warning: unknown[194.169.175.17]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: UGFzc3dvcmQ6 May 23 06:24:37 mx postfix/smtps/smtpd[2655958]: warning:

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Alexander Leidinger via Postfix-users wrote in : |Am 2024-05-22 01:22, schrieb Greg Sims via Postfix-users: |> TLS connection reuse is being used. About 10% of the connections are |> reused for large volume ISPs. Small volume ISPs do not see connection |> reuse. I believe this is as expected

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Greg Sims via Postfix-users
y 22 23:40 /var/log/postfix/log > -rw--- 1 root postdrop 25747944 May 22 23:40 > /var/log/postfix/log.20240522-234048.gz > > See https://www.postfix.org/MAILLOG_README.html and note that rotation > does not (yet) delete old files, that's up to your cron job. Pos

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Greg Sims via Postfix-users
> This is perhaps a good time to ask you for your full configuration, > not just cherry-picked individual settings. Please post the outputs of: > > $ postconf -nf > $ postconf -Mf > > with all whitespace (including linebreaks) preserved. [root@mail01 postfix]# postconf -nf alias_datab

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Greg Sims via Postfix-users
> > If the delay is with sending or receiving RSET, then the SMTP client > log "conversation with XXX timed out". I don't know if that has a > queue ID logged with that, though. Just grep for 'conversation with'. [root@mail01 postfix]# journalctl -u postfix.service | grep 'conversation with' retu

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Wietse Venema via Postfix-users: > Greg Sims via Postfix-users: > > May 22 03:13:22 mail01.raystedman.org t123/smtp[46725]: > > 604BE30A4ACA: to=<@gmail.com>, > > relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.251.2.26]:25, conn_use=2, > > delay=1576, delays=0.05/1550/25/0.84, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 >

[pfx] Re: Disable Non Delivery Notifications only for some adresses

2024-05-22 Thread Kevin Cousin via Postfix-users
Le 2024-05-22T10:15:34.000+02:00, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users a écrit : > On 21.05.24 15:13, Kevin Cousin via Postfix-users wrote: >>  We are using Postfix as relay for our internal apps. This apps >>  are >>   >>  sending mails to final users with from nore...@example.net, but >>  

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Greg Sims via Postfix-users
y 22 23:40 /var/log/postfix/log > -rw--- 1 root postdrop 25747944 May 22 23:40 > /var/log/postfix/log.20240522-234048.gz > We are collecting the log files as input with: journalctl -u postfix.service | grep 'May 22' >0522.log It seems that this may be the issue

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Greg Sims via Postfix-users: > May 22 03:13:22 mail01.raystedman.org t123/smtp[46725]: > 604BE30A4ACA: to=<@gmail.com>, > relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.251.2.26]:25, conn_use=2, > delay=1576, delays=0.05/1550/25/0.84, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 > 2.0.0 OK 1716372802 41be03b00d2f7-6578166

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
2 root postdrop 47 May 22 23:40 /var/log/postfix -rw--- 1 root root 226 May 22 23:40 /var/log/postfix/log -rw--- 1 root postdrop 25747944 May 22 23:40 /var/log/postfix/log.20240522-234048.gz See https://www.postfix.org/MAILLOG_README.html and note that rotation

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Greg Sims via Postfix-users
I am having problems with "collate". I greped a 10 minute portion of our mail.log which created a 6.8M file. I ran "collate" on this file and collected the output -- a 796M file. I looked at the file and it seems to be filled with records like the following: May 22 02:10:00 mail01.raystedman.o

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Greg Sims via Postfix-users
I have data collection homework to do -- and I will be happy to do it! Config data and "collate" is next after morning meetings. Here is some summary data by ISP from the logs: Email Ave Max Conn Relay SentDelay

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Emmanuel Fusté via Postfix-users
Le 22/05/2024 à 12:35, Greg Sims via Postfix-users a écrit : Thank you again for your feedback on this issue. I watched the workload in real time this morning and now have more insight into what is happening. It appears the large ISPs are using TLS connection as a way to throttle incoming traff

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Greg Sims via Postfix-users: > This is a sample of delays= for google.com -- 20 and 25 second delays: > > 0.01/11/20/0.73, > 0.01/9.5/20/0.77, > 0.01/0/25/0.74, > 0.01/7.6/25/0.91, > 0.01/6.9/25/1.1, > 0.01/13/20/4.6, > 0.01/14/25/0.56, > 0.01/14/25/1.1, > 0.01/0/0.22/0.72, > 0

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 05:35:25AM -0500, Greg Sims wrote: > Thank you again for your feedback on this issue. You're welcome, but I don't see anything in your reply that responds directly to my requests for more detailed configuration and log data. > I watched the workload in real time this morn

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Greg Sims via Postfix-users
Thank you again for your feedback on this issue. I watched the workload in real time this morning and now have more insight into what is happening. It appears the large ISPs are using TLS connection as a way to throttle incoming traffic. I looked at the inbound mail queue and found most of the t

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 08:31:51AM -0500, Greg Sims wrote: > Changes: > * certs back to defaults > * smtp_tls_loglevel = 1 Better. Now it is time to post a more detailed transcript of a single message (the sender and recipient addresses can be obfuscated if you wish, the recipient domain wou

[pfx] Re: Disable Non Delivery Notifications only for some adresses

2024-05-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
On 21.05.24 15:13, Kevin Cousin via Postfix-users wrote: We are using Postfix as relay for our internal apps. This apps are sending mails to final users with from nore...@example.net, but sometimes, adresses are wrong and a Non delivery notification is generated ans sent back to nore...@example.n

[pfx] Re: TLS for SMTP Outbound -- Only One tlsproxy

2024-05-22 Thread Alexander Leidinger via Postfix-users
Am 2024-05-22 01:22, schrieb Greg Sims via Postfix-users: TLS connection reuse is being used. About 10% of the connections are reused for large volume ISPs. Small volume ISPs do not see connection reuse. I believe this is as expected. I did some testing of our DNS setup. A DNS query using dig