Re: Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Daniel Schwabe
Kingsley Idehen wrote: Pierre-Antoine Champin wrote: I would expect that a DESCRIBE query to the SPARQL endpoint return what I get when dereferencing the URI. pa Daniel, Is this your problem: Linked Data Servers publish URIs. The mechanism that delivers these URIs tends to vary since t

Re: Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Pierre-Antoine Champin wrote: I would expect that a DESCRIBE query to the SPARQL endpoint return what I get when dereferencing the URI. pa Daniel, Is this your problem: Linked Data Servers publish URIs. The mechanism that delivers these URIs tends to vary since they are the product of U

Re: Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Daniel Schwabe
On 20/05/2009 17:14, Hugh Glaser wrote: Sorry, I'll try harder :-) I understand that what you are asking is something like this. For some sites (including rkbexplorer), when you resolve a URI, it constructs a SPARQL query and returns the result of the query. This might be all the triples with th

Re: URI lifecycle (Was: Owning URIs)

2009-05-20 Thread Hugh Glaser
Hi David, On 20/05/2009 06:01, "David Booth" wrote: >> >> A last comment, which I know we have discussed, and you possibly disagree: >> "Community expropriation of a URI" >> Might have meant something else. >> One of the problems is that many authors will not discharge their Statement >> Author R

Re: Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Peter Ansell
Hi, If you have a dataset that is very large and highly interlinked on particular URI's, the DESCRIBE response may be too large to reasonably transmit to a user over the internet (and to expect a sparql endpoint to give out in one chunk). This is assuming the typical DESCRIBE behaviour that sparql

Re: Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Pierre-Antoine Champin
I would expect that a DESCRIBE query to the SPARQL endpoint return what I get when dereferencing the URI. pa Daniel Schwabe a écrit : > Dan and Hugh, > let me be more specific. > I'm not really advocating that only *one* direction should be returned > (or even both directions). > I am asking a

Re: Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Hugh Glaser
Sorry, I'll try harder :-) I understand that what you are asking is something like this. For some sites (including rkbexplorer), when you resolve a URI, it constructs a SPARQL query and returns the result of the query. This might be all the triples with the subject, or object, or both, or somethi

Re: Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Daniel Schwabe
Dan and Hugh, let me be more specific. I'm not really advocating that only *one* direction should be returned (or even both directions). I am asking a more general question (to which I don't think Hugh really gave an answer either) which is, is there any query that returns the same triples as t

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have been evaluating DBpedia. What I would like to see is use DBpedia to improve the quality and consistency of Wikipedia itself and make use of its curated data for an experiment where Semantic MediaWiki will be enabled for a copy of English language Wikipedia. This would mean that DBpedia

Re: DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Yves Raimond wrote: Hello! On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: Hi all, I'm currently doing some planning for the future roadmap of DBpedia, and therefore gathering requirements and use cases. So I'm wondering: - Who is using DBpedia today or has evaluated it in the p

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Steve Harris wrote: On 20 May 2009, at 16:38, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Steve Harris wrote: Alternatively you could put that data in a RDF store, and just serve up the fragments using a wrapped CONSTRUCT query. That's what we do for qdos.com, eg http://qdos.com/user/Steve-Harris/18b6f60b41e05a

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2009-05-20 Thread Peter Mika
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Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Steve Harris
On 20 May 2009, at 16:38, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Steve Harris wrote: Alternatively you could put that data in a RDF store, and just serve up the fragments using a wrapped CONSTRUCT query. That's what we do for qdos.com, eg http://qdos.com/user/Steve-Harris/18b6f60b41e05aaa418565ebfe901d6b/r

Re: Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Dan Brickley
On 20/5/09 18:59, Daniel Schwabe wrote: Dear all, while designing Explorator [1], where one can explore one or more triple repositories that provide SPARQL enpoints (as well as direct URI dereferencing), I found the following question, to which I don't really know the answer... For the sake of

Re: Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Hugh Glaser
I think sitemap may already have what you want. We use slicing="subject-object" For our sets such as: (See http://acm.rkbexplorer.com/sitemap.xml). http://sw.deri.org/2007/07/sitemapextension/ Says: The and tags can have an optional slicing attribute that takes a value from the list of slicing

Dereferencing a URI vs querying a SPARQL endpoint

2009-05-20 Thread Daniel Schwabe
Dear all, while designing Explorator [1], where one can explore one or more triple repositories that provide SPARQL enpoints (as well as direct URI dereferencing), I found the following question, to which I don't really know the answer... For the sake of this discussion, I'm considering only

Re: URI lifecycle (Was: Owning URIs)

2009-05-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
David Booth wrote: Hi John, Re: "The URI Lifecycle in Semantic Web Architecture": http://dbooth.org/2009/lifecycle/ On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 10:46 -0700, John Graybeal wrote: *Very* interesting paper, for the content and for the links. Addresses many a topic I've been trying to sort out. I

Re: DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Hugh Glaser
Nice work. However :-) It should be @prefix : . not @prefix : . Cheers Hugh On 20/05/2009 16:15, "Toby Inkster" wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 14:57 +0100, Yves Raimond wrote: > 3) An interface for submitting out-goi

Re: [semanticweb] ANN: GoodRelations Service Update 2009-05-05 - Please refresh your caches!

2009-05-20 Thread Azamat
Hi, Martin, I found your works on business ontologies as having some useful commercial prospects. I suggest to post your Good Relations ontology under the heading of Ontology Standards and Industry Standards, a special committee of the emerging non-profit international research organization: I

Re: URI lifecycle (Was: Owning URIs)

2009-05-20 Thread David Booth
Hi John, Re: "The URI Lifecycle in Semantic Web Architecture": http://dbooth.org/2009/lifecycle/ On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 10:46 -0700, John Graybeal wrote: > *Very* interesting paper, for the content and for the links. > Addresses many a topic I've been trying to sort out. > > If I may ask for a

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Steve Harris wrote: Alternatively you could put that data in a RDF store, and just serve up the fragments using a wrapped CONSTRUCT query. That's what we do for qdos.com, eg http://qdos.com/user/Steve-Harris/18b6f60b41e05aaa418565ebfe901d6b/rdfxml and it's pretty efficient, more efficient th

Re: DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Juan Sequeda
At Turn2Live.com we will start (soon) to consume music data about artists from LOD and obviously from DBpedia. We are at a very initial phase. Hope to have demos soon! Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student Dept. of Computer Sciences The University of Texas at Austin www.juansequeda.com www.semanticwebaustin.

Re: DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 14:57 +0100, Yves Raimond wrote: > 3) An interface for submitting out-going links, instead of having to > ping the dbpedia list each time Ooh!! This can be done?! Ping! http://ontologi.es/rail/links_dbpedia.ttl -- Toby Inkster

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Steve Harris
On 20 May 2009, at 15:48, Yves Raimond wrote: Hello! Not very linked data friendly (you'll end up with a large proportion of repeated triples in identical graphs, with different graph URIS), but certainly better than nothing. Just jumping on that - is that an issue? I would think not, as y

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Steve Harris
Alternatively you could put that data in a RDF store, and just serve up the fragments using a wrapped CONSTRUCT query. That's what we do for qdos.com, eg http://qdos.com/user/Steve-Harris/18b6f60b41e05aaa418565ebfe901d6b/rdfxml and it's pretty efficient, more efficient that storing 1000 separ

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Yves Raimond
Hello! > Not very linked data friendly (you'll end up with a large proportion of > repeated triples in identical graphs, with different graph URIS), but > certainly better than nothing. Just jumping on that - is that an issue? I would think not, as you may want to repeat information across differ

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Damian Steer
Steve Harris wrote: > Very cool resource. > > On 20 May 2009, at 10:18, Libby Miller wrote: >>> Individual commodity descriptions can be retrieved as follows: >>> >>> http://openean.kaufkauf.net/id/EanUpc_ >>> >>> Example: >>> >>> http://openean.kaufkauf.net/id/EanUpc_0001067792600 >> >> This seem

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Martin Hepp (UniBW)
Hi Steve, as I replied to Libby (but did not include all mailing lists): The whole data set is served from currently 100 smaller files, which will be broken down to 1000 files shortly. For various reasons however, we don't want to serve one file per element, because that will create a huge ove

Re: DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Yves Raimond
Hello! On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm currently doing some planning for the future roadmap of DBpedia, and > therefore gathering requirements and use cases. > > So I'm wondering: > - Who is using DBpedia today or has evaluated it in the past, > - What

Re: DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Hugh Glaser
We use dbpedia as part of the linked data world when computing networks and service details of things that we know have dbpedia entries; we also use the sameAs information. Eg For example see the ³Description² bit of http://www.rkbexplorer.com/detail/?uri=http://southampton.rkbexplorer.com/id /per

Re: software to generate lod clouds

2009-05-20 Thread Knud Hinnerk Möller
Hi Joachim, all I know is that the original LOD cloud figure on the ESW wiki [1] is made with OmniGraffle [2]. Whether or not there is some automatic process involved I don't know. Cheers, Knud [1] http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData [2] http://www.

Re: DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 13:04 +0200, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: > - What are you doing with it or how would you like to use it, Linked railway data project - right now, I'm just querying dbpedia to find an alternative URI for each station, so that I can provide ovterms:similarTo links from one URI fo

Re: software to generate lod clouds

2009-05-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Neubert Joachim wrote: Hi, all you creators of these fancy LOD clouds, which software did you use to accomplish this? I suppose there are more people like me who are drawing outlines of their special corner of the cloud (library metadata and economics, in my case). It could make sense to exchan

Re: DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Davide Palmisano wrote: Georgi Kobilarov wrote: Hi all, Dear folks, I'm Davide Palmisano, an Asemantics[1] senior researcher and I'm very pleased to reply to Georgi's questions. I'm currently doing some planning for the future roadmap of DBpedia, and therefore gathering requirements and u

software to generate lod clouds

2009-05-20 Thread Neubert Joachim
Hi, all you creators of these fancy LOD clouds, which software did you use to accomplish this? I suppose there are more people like me who are drawing outlines of their special corner of the cloud (library metadata and economics, in my case). It could make sense to exchange tools, and maybe data

Re: DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Davide Palmisano
Georgi Kobilarov wrote: Hi all, Dear folks, I'm Davide Palmisano, an Asemantics[1] senior researcher and I'm very pleased to reply to Georgi's questions. I'm currently doing some planning for the future roadmap of DBpedia, and therefore gathering requirements and use cases. So I'm wonderi

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Steve Harris
Very cool resource. On 20 May 2009, at 10:18, Libby Miller wrote: Individual commodity descriptions can be retrieved as follows: http://openean.kaufkauf.net/id/EanUpc_ Example: http://openean.kaufkauf.net/id/EanUpc_0001067792600 This seems to give me multiple product descriptions - am I m

Re: Owning URIs (Was: Yet Another LOD cloud browser)

2009-05-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
David Huynh wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: David Huynh wrote: Sherman Monroe wrote: To be more specific, these days a news reporter can say "foobar.com " on TV and expect that to mean something to most of the audience. That's a marvel. Something more than jus

DBpedia user, who are you?

2009-05-20 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
Hi all, I'm currently doing some planning for the future roadmap of DBpedia, and therefore gathering requirements and use cases. So I'm wondering: - Who is using DBpedia today or has evaluated it in the past, - What are you doing with it or how would you like to use it, - How would you like to

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Martin Hepp (UniBW)
Hi Libby, That's rather fabulous! Can you give some information about how often this dataset is updated, and what's its geographical and product type reach? Thanks! This particular data set is a rather static collection and has a bias towards US products. It will soon be complemented by a mo

Re: ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Libby Miller
hi Martin, On 20 May 2009, at 09:58, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote: 1. OpenEAN data set: 1 million EAN/UPC codes plus respective labels --- The full data set is at http://openean.kaufkauf.net/id/ That's rather fabulous! Can you giv

ANN: GoodRelations - E-Commerce on the Web of Data - New Datasets and Applications

2009-05-20 Thread Martin Hepp (UniBW)
Dear all: Thanks to the help of several partners, there are now new data sets and tools related to the GoodRelations ontology for e-commerce: 1. OpenEAN data set: 1 million EAN/UPC codes plus respective labels --- The full data set

ANN: GoodRelations Service Update 2009-05-05 - Please refresh your caches!

2009-05-20 Thread Martin Hepp (UniBW)
Dear all: We just released a service update of the GoodRelations ontology for e-commerce. The ontology is available at http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1 If you want to explicitly fetch the OWL file or the HTML documentation, you may also use http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1.owl or http://purl

Re: RDF: a suitable NLP KB representation (Was: Owning URIs (Was: Yet Another LOD cloud browser))

2009-05-20 Thread Dan Brickley
On 20/5/09 07:44, David Huynh wrote: Sherman Monroe wrote: >> That's when I was turned on to Frame Semantics, which I immediately praised, it is by far the most expressive and elegant knowledge representation framework for NL I have come across (although, it's been 3 or 4 years since I really l

Re: RDF: a suitable NLP KB representation (Was: Owning URIs (Was: Yet Another LOD cloud browser))

2009-05-20 Thread Toby A Inkster
On 20 May 2009, at 06:44, David Huynh wrote: And look what happened to Esperanto... After one century, 2 million speakers, or 0.025% of the world population. Given that most human languages don't have a definitive "start date", it is difficult to directly compare this with languages like F