On Dec 20, 6:05 pm, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article
> ,
>
> walterbyrd wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 10:25 am, Michael Torrie wrote:
>
> > > Personally the new string formatter is sorely needed in Python.
>
> > Really? You know, it's funny, but when I read problems that people
> > have with python, I d
On Dec 20, 5:27 pm, walterbyrd wrote:
> On Dec 19, 10:25 am, Michael Torrie wrote:
>
> > Personally the new string formatter is sorely needed in Python.
>
> Really? You know, it's funny, but when I read problems that people
> have with python, I don't remember seeing that. Loads of people
> com
Just to be on record, i am OK with adding a new way to do this as long
as the old C style str format does not ever go away. I don't like 20
ways to do the same thing, but i really like the compact way of
%formating now. My complaint is the deprecation of %formating. Maybe
i'll use the new syntax to
Thanks, i understand. Maybe some of the pro "new syntax" guys will
show a translation
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Walter,
Would you be kind enough to translate this code to the new syntax?
>>> s = 'python'
>>> n = 12
>>> f = 1.3
>>> '%s %05d %0.2f' %(s,n,f)
'python 00012 1.33'
i want to see how casting is handled. Thanks
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On Dec 19, 10:04 pm, Steve Holden wrote:
> r wrote:
> > Thanks Steven,
> > We need a real Pepsi challenge here to show the insignificance of this
> > change. I am not against change. But when we lose something as -
> > compact- as %formating i'm going to want to s
Thanks Steven,
We need a real Pepsi challenge here to show the insignificance of this
change. I am not against change. But when we lose something as -
compact- as %formating i'm going to want to see a damn good reason for
it! Especially when this breaks code, and the "French Connection" is
not good
Scott,
Oh, so Python 3.0 is an Equal Opportunity Enigma, now i get it :D
Steve,
Obviously i was referring to the look, not the actuality of a tuple
Marc,
Why move away from a concise and widely accepted way of sting
formatting, just to supposedly make it a little easier for n00bs?
(which i disagr
~Michael,
What’s next down this road of self destruction? Hey guys, forget about
about empty parenthesis on a function/method call, we should not have
to waste are time typing them… Wait forget about them all together and
we will just write Ruby code…
Def function arg arg arg arg arg arg
“Yea, t
I was actually looking forward to 3.0, but the more I hear about 3.0,
the more I am turned off. I think there are a lot of other
pythonista's and pythoneers out there who agree but are not saying
anything. This syntax for string formatting is completely ridiculous.
What is the purpose of breaking b
if 3.0 looks like... print( "{0}={1}".format('this',99)) , WTF...
thats retarded and looks like Ruby code. Thats not intuitive thats
madness! What happens when you need a conversion to string from an
integer, more code?? My faith is slipping. Have the python Gods gone
mad??. Please tell me i am wro
On Dec 18, 1:48 pm, Roger wrote:
> On Dec 18, 12:49 pm, r wrote:
>
> > Maybe someone will chime in with an answer, sorry i could not help.
> > ponder this, i must...
>
> Regardless, thanks for your help! I truly appreciate it.
>
> Roger.
'no problema mi amig
also try the python forum, great place for beginners...
http://www.python-forum.org/pythonforum/index.php
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in IDLE go to:
Options -> Configure IDLE -> Highlighting...
1.) in the box click the word "cursor"
2.) press the button that says "Choose Color for"
3.) Pick a color and save the changes
viola! you did it! :)
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Maybe someone will chime in with an answer, sorry i could not help.
ponder this, i must...
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Yea, my answer was really not a helping answer(sorry) just showing
exactly why this will not work with w.unbind(). Why do you need two
separate functions to bind the same event?? You cannot combine the
two??
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w.unbind ( sequence, funcid=None )
This method deletes bindings on w for the event described by sequence.
If the second argument is a callback bound to that sequence, that
callback is removed and the rest, if any, are left in place. If the
second argument is omitted, all bindings are deleted.
see
On Dec 17, 12:20 pm, walterbyrd wrote:
> On Dec 17, 10:00 am, r wrote:
>
> > When writing
> > procedural code how would you like it if vars inside functions were
> > automatically global. Your code with be blowing chunks in no time.
>
> That was my point - I con
I think there is a simpler answer to all this(not to take away from
the other ones here though which are all great). When writing
procedural code how would you like it if vars inside functions were
automatically global. Your code with be blowing chunks in no time.
Thats the reason for global declar
On Dec 15, 1:29 pm, feba wrote:
> 6; can anyone think of anything else to add on to/do with this game?
> With the minr/maxr display, multiplayer, score keeping, and
> automation, I'm just about all of ideas. All I can think of left to
> add is 3 and 4 player modes, or a fork where player 2 can't
On Dec 16, 5:47 pm, "James Mills"
wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:08 AM, r wrote:
> > What about all the crap you had to go through just to get output?
> > Python wins
>
> Yes I can't say I really enjoy writing C (at all!)
> _except_ in the case wh
What about all the crap you had to go through just to get output?
Python wins
PS. cm_gui try this piece of code
>>> print 'hello world'.replace('world', 'idiot')
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On Dec 15, 7:15 am, Luis M. González wrote:
> On Dec 15, 1:38 am, cm_gui wrote:
>
> > hahaha, do you know how much money they are spending on hardware to
> > make
> > youtube.com fast???
>
> > > By the way... I know of a very slow Python site called YouTube.com. In
> > > fact, it is so slow that
Google "python decorators"
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> Let me just point out that unsuspecting people (like me) might rely on
> the whole expression to be evaluated and rely on exceptions being
> raised if needed.
This happens when people assume something ;)
Use a different construct if you want to catch error's, I don't
understand how you could not
These are just the kind of things that make Python so beautiful ;)
Thanks Guido!
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"Gabriel Genellina" writes:
..
> No, last_traceback is the last *printed* traceback in the interactive
> interpreter.
Well more precisely the traceback that is passed to sys.excepthook()
when an unhandled exception occcurs, since the hook that might not
decide to print anything ;-)
> Use the t
i was just giving you an example from my TextEditor.py script.
this is how arg works
lets say you have a script named MyScript.py
---
import sys
print sys.argv
---
call the script with arguments
> MyScript.py 99 100
['C:\\Python25\\MyScript.py', '99', '100']
int(sys.argv[1]) -> 99
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yes, but your script will need to know hoe to handle this.the
following will open a file who's name was passed to the script
if len(sys.argv) > 1:
try:
open_file(fname=sys.argv[1])
except:
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J Kenneth King writes:
>
> I watched the demo video, look forward to working with it. Any links to
> that emacs front-end being used in the video?
>
> Cheers and thanks!
In short, the emacs code is bundled in with the tar and should be
installed when you run "make install"
However if you inst
> And of course -now- I realise that the OP was asking for protecting
> methods. Please disregard my last post :)
Alex23,
Are you telling me that you do not know how to YANK your own post? I
find that hard to believe. ;)
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A colleague recently asked this:
Is there a cleaner way to dump a trace/track of running a python script.
With Pydb I made work-around with
import pydb
pydb.debugger(dbg_cmds=['bt', 'l', 's']*300 + ['c'])
So now I have a dump of 300 steps with backtraces, so I can easily
compar
On Jun 21, 8:47 am, Michal Kwiatkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm building a tool to trace all function calls usingsys.settrace
> function from the standard library. One of the awkward behaviors of
> this facility is that the class definitions are reported as 'call'
> events.[1] Since I don't
brooklineTom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I want my exception handler to report the method that originally
> raised an exception, at the deepest level in the call-tree. Let give
> an example.
>
> import sys, traceback
> class SomeClass:
> def error(self):
> """Raises an AttributeError
On Nov 22 2007, 4:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John J. Lee) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > I am trying to use thetracemodulewith the --count flag to test for
> > statement coverage in my doctests. Thetracecoverage listing is very
> > weird, marking many statements as unexecuted which were cle
This release is to clear out some old issues. It contains some
bugfixes, document corrections, and enhancements. Tests were
revised for Python 2.6 and Python without readline installed. A bug
involving invoking from ipython was fixed. The "frame" command is a
little more like gdb's. Exceptions are
Bad idea having two ways to do this. Pick one or the other!
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[Lie]
Sketchup's target users is not power users but those who need quick
sketches, so scripting isn't an extremely important feature in
Sketchup.[/Lie]
Your Wrong, SketchUp PRO is marketed at ACAD users and other high
profile CAD and CAM applications. SketchUp models can be exported to
ACAD and A
Hallo,
> users in this forum has been kind enough to point out. Only my
> implementations are often not that clean, and I may call things
> something different than the normal convention, which is a source of
> confusion for myself and others trying to communicate with me.
I think, you should start
"If we can laugh what else would we do"
I'd like to touch also on some comments by ajaksu:
[ajaksu]
I'd like to try hacking some form of Python to work in SketchUp (on
top of Ruby, that is). Now, why won't I try to? I'm a Linux user and
we don't get a SU version. So much for FREEDOM. BTW, some thi
I added you name to my "for" list. thanks
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OK...so here are the stat's so far.
6+BDFL - who would support my crazy idea, or think it -might- be ok
11 - who are on the fence
6 - who think this is a complete waste of time, a stupid idea, or just
simply want to kill me
-> from these stats i can deduce the following:
total_members_comp.lang.p
"The devils in the details"
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At least -someone- besides myself has a sense of humor around here.
PS James, i will look through my contact list and send you a few
"easy" numbers... good luck :)
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dear all,
I want to connect my A machine to the E server via servers B, C and D,
is there a way to set-up such "server chain" with python socket module (or
other module) ?
many thanks
boris
vn%ibo%ris[at]hotmail.com
_
News, entertain
PS james,
Since you are alex23's friend, do the world a favor...PLEASE GET ALEX
LAID...before it's too late!
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Ok, so i was wrong about you =)
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alex23,
Ok...you don't like my idea...so why keep responding?
ajaksu,
You insulted me and accused me of trolling, but it looks like your
interested. And you also included links. I think your really on board
and just can't say it yet *wink*. Thank You
Aaron,
I agree to disagree with you...although
Rome is Burning!
Pay particular attention to the second paragraph.
Narcissistic culture
Main article: The Culture of Narcissism
Historian and social critic Christopher Lasch described this topic in
his book, "The Culture of Narcissism",[3] published in 1979. He
defines a narcissistic culture as
I support any idea that supports python. You have my vote friend!
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Aaron Brady wrote:
> That's circular: Sketchup is the first step within the Sketchup
> movement.
Dear God...I have entered the twilight zone! This is the Python
movement(comp.lang.python)? get it? To move you must first take a
step. Lest you never move.
"I" am the BDFL of the SketchUp-Python int
The "first step" simply meant..."within this movement"...Not that
there exist no "other" Python API's.
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Greg,
You have made my week friend!
I had given up hope that anybody cared about Python!
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After careful consideration and much pondering of the subject, I will
NOT retract my words. And I will give you truthful answers for my
reasons.
People have said that i ripped Ruby in my promotion of Python. This
just IS NOT True. Lets go over the facts here, and let them speak
louder than words.
do you have any suggestions where? I am not as versed as you in Usenet.
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Look what you made the BDFL do!! Now he is sending Python to hell! :)
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Arron, i give you an A++ just for writing a longer post than me =D
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Sorry friend, i could not view your link, but if you are trying to
garner support for python nobody here cares. I have already been
lynched by the community for tying to promote python.
see the thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/0c403b827231b9a4?hl=en#
Yo
Let me clear up a few things. Sometimes when you read a post you can
mis-interpret the posters feelings(i have been guilty of this myself,
I took Chris's post the wrong way when he was clearly not being rude)
1.) Do i personally like Ruby? No
2.) Do i want to remove Ruby from the world? No
3.) Do
Terry, are you saying you want to join the push for Python? i would
love to have you aboard!
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Terry,
In my haste I may have miss-read your post...Are you saying that there
are people who WOULD support Python in SketchUp? Are you one of them?
Can you tell me who else may be interested? How can i contact these
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Terry,
I in my haste I may have miss-read your post...Are you saying that
there are people who WOULD support Python in SketchUp? Are you one of
them? Can you tell me who else may be interested? How can i contact
these people?
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You know i wonder how many people saw that the link to the OP had
30,40 replies and they said...WOW it looks like the community is
getting behind a project to host Python, I had better check this out!
Then when they opened the link and saw all the negative responses from
well known posters...either
You know i wonder how many people saw that the link to the OP had
30,40 replies and they said...WOW it looks like the community is
getting behind a project to host Python, I had better check this out!
Then when they opened the link and saw all the negative responses from
well known posters...either
OK people, where back to 2 for Python and i will not even mention the
one's against. I thought Terry was 50% onboard but he has just made
his choice known. I would have liked to have you on board Terry, and
will forgive if you change your mind.
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Oh Python, where art thy faithful followers, thy house is crumbling,
thy last breath spent, thy season draweth nigh...Ye have fought
bravely for all that is good. But ye are encompassed on all sides by
evil. Those who proclaim to love you are only the very same who seek
your end!
Weep oh lovers of
On Nov 28, 2:43 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 2:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>
>
> > On Nov 28, 6:15 am, Bruno Desthuilliers
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > r a écrit :
> > > > On Nov 28, 12:52 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr
On Nov 28, 2:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Nov 28, 6:15 am, Bruno Desthuilliers
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > r a écrit :
> > > On Nov 28, 12:52 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >> On Nov 27, 10:28 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
On Nov 28, 4:32 am, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> Are you trolling? Are you some sort of agent provocateur trying to put people
> *against* the idea of Python > scripting for Sketchup? If not,
> you're sure doing an excellent imitation of one.
I am the
Thanks again alex23,
but did you not already post the exact same thing, can you not engage
in intellectual conversation, or have you spent your last penny?
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On Nov 28, 11:52 am, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > and we're not throwing ourselves at your pet project because most of us
> > don't give a monkey's toss about Sketchup. > Why should we put our time and
> > energy into a piece of software that we d
> The fact _you_ don't like Ruby doesn't make it a bad language. If what
> you want is a Python API to SketchUp, bashing Ruby certainly won't help
> - quite on the contrary. And it won't help promoting Python neither.
Thanks Bruno,
I never said Ruby is a bad Language! do you what IMHO means?? For
> and we're not throwing ourselves at your pet project because most of us don't
> give a monkey's toss about Sketchup. > Why should we put our time and energy
> into a piece of software that we don't care about?
AGAIN, I'm NOT asking you to support SKETCHUP I am asking for support
for PYTHON! Di
> Python supporters on this list don't really care about
> Python -- only money, and depravity. you and i and the
> other few, pure of heart, must fight for Python!!
Unfortunatly no others besides yourself have come forward. This is not
a fight for my ideas anymore as a test of the community! Y
On Nov 28, 12:52 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Nov 27, 10:28 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > To think...that I would preach freedom to the slaves and be lynched
> > for it...IS MADNESS!
>
> > Not one vote for Python, not a care. I think everyone here
On Nov 28, 12:32 am, alex23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 3:28 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > To think...that I would preach freedom to the slaves and be lynched
> > for it...IS MADNESS!
>
> There's is madness in this thread, of that I h
[alex23]
How much is this API -worth- to you? How much time are -you- willing
to commit to developing it? If you lack the ability, how much -money-
are you willing to spend on hiring the people with that ability?
[/alex23]
Alex,
Are you telling me that out of all the great and wonderful developers
On Nov 27, 11:28 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To think...that I would preach freedom to the slaves and be lynched
> for it...IS MADNESS!
>
> Not one vote for Python, not a care. I think everyone here should look
> deep within their self and realize the damage that has
To think...that I would preach freedom to the slaves and be lynched
for it...IS MADNESS!
Not one vote for Python, not a care. I think everyone here should look
deep within their self and realize the damage that has been done
today! I hope Guido's eyes never see this thread, for he may lose all
hop
On Nov 27, 10:57 pm, George Sakkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 10:45 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I am still flabbergasted by the solid resistance to promoting Python.
> > Here of all places, NOT even one person(well Terry did kinda half
> >
On Nov 27, 10:08 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 9:56 pm, alex23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Nov 28, 1:45 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Does it bother you that i am so ambitious[...] Answer that if
> > > you are a
On Nov 27, 9:56 pm, alex23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 1:45 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Does it bother you that i am so ambitious[...] Answer that if
> > you are a man. [...] Do you feel you should give back or just
> > take, take, take
On Nov 27, 9:31 pm, alex23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 12:49 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Well... 3 for Ruby 1 for python. Not looking good so far. Any more
> > votes?
>
> I don't see -any- of the responses in this thread "
On Nov 27, 8:01 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 7:40 pm, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > r wrote:
> > > On Nov 27, 6:15 pm, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> r wrote:
> > >>> Hello fellow Pyt
On Nov 27, 7:40 pm, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> r wrote:
> > On Nov 27, 6:15 pm, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> r wrote:
> >>> Hello fellow Python Advocates!
> >>> Help me promote Python t
On Nov 27, 7:13 pm, alex23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 10:09 am, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Are you against promoting python?
>
> > Maybe your a Ruby fan, i don't know, but that
> > would explain your quick disposal of the idea
On Nov 27, 6:15 pm, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> r wrote:
> > Hello fellow Python Advocates!
> > Help me promote Python to a larger audience.
>
> > An introduction to SketchUp:
> >
>
> There is no need to puff up Python
On Nov 27, 5:42 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 5:38 pm, "Chris Rebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Nov 27, 5:27 pm, "Chris Rebert" <
On Nov 27, 5:38 pm, "Chris Rebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Nov 27, 5:27 pm, "Chris Rebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM, r <[EM
On Nov 27, 5:27 pm, "Chris Rebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello fellow Python Advocates!
> > Help me promote Python to a larger audience.
>
> > An introduction to SketchUp:
> &
Hello fellow Python Advocates!
Help me promote Python to a larger audience.
An introduction to SketchUp:
I don't know if you are familiar with "Google Sketchup". It is the
best 3d CAM program available.
If you have not checked it out and do modeling of any kind, or want to
lea
On Nov 27, 8:57 am, Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "adam carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I call a function get_items() which returns a list of items.
> > However, in some cases, it returns just one item.
> > It returns the item as an object though,
On Nov 26, 2:58 pm, fel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I work in a small software company using php all day, I wish the usage
> of Python was more common within my company
> they are starting a new project (insurance stuff) using Java, and I
> just hate that eventually I'l be debugging someone-else's
#import gzip
> > 5 def __init__(self,file):
> > 6 self.file = file
> > 7 def open_file(self):
> > 8 try:
> > 9 print "file: %s" % self.file
> > 10 self.xml_file = gzip.GzipF
On Nov 25, 4:33 pm, Jorgen Grahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:41:53 -0800 (PST), r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Nov 25, 10:36 am, M_H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hey,
>
> >> I need the position of the last char >
>
> >> Let's say I have a string
> >> mystr =
On Nov 25, 2:31 pm, r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 10:38 am, marc wyburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I've created my first Tkinter GUI class which consists of some buttons
> > that trigger functions. I have also
On Nov 25, 10:36 am, M_H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I need the position of the last char >
>
> Let's say I have a string
> mystr =
On Nov 25, 10:38 am, marc wyburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've created my first Tkinter GUI class which consists of some buttons
> that trigger functions. I have also created a
> tkFileDialog.askdirectory control to local a root folder for log
> files.
>
> I have several file paths tha
On Nov 25, 10:38 am, marc wyburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've created my first Tkinter GUI class which consists of some buttons
> that trigger functions. I have also created a
> tkFileDialog.askdirectory control to local a root folder for log
> files.
>
> I have several file paths tha
On Nov 24, 7:52 pm, "Giampaolo Rodola'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry for the title but I didn't find anything more appropriate.
> To have a less verbose code would it be ok doing:
>
> if a > b:
>
> ...instead of:
>
> if a is not None and a > b:
>
> ...?
> Is there any hidden complication behi
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