Re: Hello I want help get rid of that message and help install Python properly and thank you

2023-03-22 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 11:37 AM Mohammed nour Koujan wrote: > > > -- What message? Please don't post screenshots - copy and paste the errors from your machine... Thank you. > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Hello I want help get rid of that message and help install Python properly and thank you

2023-03-22 Thread Mohammed nour Koujan
-- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: hello can I be in your group?

2023-01-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
Keith Thompson wrote at 2023-1-6 17:02 -0800: >September Skeen writes: >> I was wondering if I could be in your group > >This is an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup. In fact, there are several access channels, Usenet newsgroup is one of them. Another channel is the python-list mailing list. You can

Re: hello can I be in your group?

2023-01-06 Thread Keith Thompson
September Skeen writes: > I was wondering if I could be in your group This is an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup. It doesn't have members, just people who post to it. If you want to discuss Python, just post. (Take a look around first to get an idea how how thinks work.) If you see a response fr

hello can I be in your group?

2023-01-03 Thread September Skeen
I was wondering if I could be in your group -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Will "hello" always be printed?

2022-10-07 Thread MRAB
On 2022-10-08 00:40, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 07Oct2022 20:16, Robin van der veer wrote: If I have two processes communicating through a JoinableQueue, and I do the following: process 1: queue.put(1) #unfished tasks = 1 queue.join() #block until unfished tasks = 0 print('

Re: Will "hello" always be printed?

2022-10-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07Oct2022 20:16, Robin van der veer wrote: If I have two processes communicating through a JoinableQueue, and I do the following: process 1: queue.put(1) #unfished tasks = 1 queue.join() #block until unfished tasks = 0 print('hello')[/python] process 2:

Will "hello" always be printed?

2022-10-07 Thread Robin van der veer
If I have two processes communicating through a JoinableQueue, and I do the following: process 1: queue.put(1) #unfished tasks = 1 queue.join() #block until unfished tasks = 0 print('hello')[/python] process 2: queue.get() queue.task_done() #unfished tasks = 0

Re: Having trouble getting Hello World to appear

2022-04-21 Thread MRAB
On 2022-04-22 02:57, Greg wrote: I downloaded and installed the auto version of the software. "auto version"? I go to the director C:\google-python-exercises> *python hello.py* I am running Windows. What am I doing incorrectly? I don't know, because you didn't say what did or didn't hap

Re: Having trouble getting Hello World to appear

2022-04-21 Thread Greg
I downloaded and installed the auto version of the software. I go to the director C:\google-python-exercises> *python hello.py* I am running Windows. What am I doing incorrectly? I had the zip file installed under my One Drive and then moved it to my C drive Patiently waiting, Greg --

Re: Hello! I was here to ask about pythonm actually I deleted the python 8 version and downloaded a new python 9 version but after deleting when I code something and after some days I want to open the

2021-05-14 Thread Payal Singh
Thanks, I'll check it out. On Sat, May 15, 2021, 1:54 AM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 5/14/21 2:55 AM, Payal Singh wrote: > > > > it's easier if you put that in the message body, not the subject line. > > if you're getting the repair/modify/uninstall dialog, it means you're > running the installer

Re: Hello! I was here to ask about pythonm actually I deleted the python 8 version and downloaded a new python 9 version but after deleting when I code something and after some days I want to open the

2021-05-14 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 5/14/21 2:55 AM, Payal Singh wrote: it's easier if you put that in the message body, not the subject line. if you're getting the repair/modify/uninstall dialog, it means you're running the installer again (that's its job, if already installed, to somehow modify the installation). Don't

Hello! I was here to ask about pythonm actually I deleted the python 8 version and downloaded a new python 9 version but after deleting when I code something and after some days I want to open the fil

2021-05-14 Thread Payal Singh
-- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Hello, I need help.

2019-10-15 Thread Piet van Oostrum
Damla Pehlivan writes: > Dear Python Team, [...] > I am writing this mail quite emotionally. I asked a new "friend" for help, > but he laughed. He said it was because I am a girl and this is why I could > not do it. I want to prove to him and the whole world that I can do it. I > have a lesson n

Re: Hello, I need help.

2019-10-15 Thread Peter Pearson
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 18:57:04 +0300, Damla Pehlivan wrote: [snip] > . . . I downloaded the python program, and I > also downloaded Pycharm to use it. To be fair, I do not know what I am > doing, but I made some progress last night and I was happy about it. Today > when I came back from university

Re: Hello, I need help.

2019-10-15 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, Are you trying to run your program, PyCharm, or the python console? Thank you. On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:01 PM Damla Pehlivan wrote: > > Dear Python Team, > First, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Damla Pehlivan, and I > live in Ankara/Turkey. I am a university student at Ankar

Hello, I need help.

2019-10-15 Thread Damla Pehlivan
Dear Python Team, First, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Damla Pehlivan, and I live in Ankara/Turkey. I am a university student at Ankara University. My major is Biology; therefore, I want to learn Python to use for Data Science. When I researched and asked my professors, they suggeste

Re: hello this ali .. i want some question about python

2019-04-05 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:02 PM Sayth Renshaw wrote: > > On Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:21:51 UTC+11, maak khan wrote: > > i need your help guys .. plz Are you trying to create a teaching software? Thank you. > > With? > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://m

hello this ali .. i want some question about python

2019-04-05 Thread maak khan
i need your help guys .. plz -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: hello this ali .. i want some question about python

2019-04-05 Thread Sayth Renshaw
On Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:21:51 UTC+11, maak khan wrote: > i need your help guys .. plz With? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

hello I need the code of md6 hash

2018-10-22 Thread cont...@blake2.net
تم الإرسال من البريد لـ Windows 10 --- لقد تم التحقق من خلو هذا البريد الإلكتروني من الفيروسات بواسطة برنامج أفاست مضاد الفيروسات. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: hello from a very excited and totally blind python programmer and game player

2018-07-30 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
Python webdev try: git clone https://github.com/amirouche/beyondjs Le lun. 30 juil. 2018 à 20:33, Amirouche Boubekki < amirouche.boube...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > Le mar. 24 juil. 2018 à 22:10, Daniel Perry a > écrit : > >> Hi there everyone, my name is Daniel Perry

Re: hello from a very excited and totally blind python programmer and game player

2018-07-30 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
Le mar. 24 juil. 2018 à 22:10, Daniel Perry a écrit : > Hi there everyone, my name is Daniel Perry Hello! > and I'm a totally blind new Python user. Ok! > I've only just recently started picking up python and playing with it and > I intend on building some unique au

Re: hello from a very excited and totally blind python programmer and game player

2018-07-25 Thread Tim Golden
ok forward to hearing from you soon. First of all: Hello, and welcome. If you're a beginner to Python (or to programming in general) you might find the tutor list is a better place to start: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor But feel free to carry on posting here if you pre

Re: hello from a very excited and totally blind python programmer and game player

2018-07-25 Thread Rhodri James
On 24/07/18 21:09, Daniel Perry wrote: Also, When I opened up the first message that I had gotten from this list, I got a prompt that popped up asking if I wanted to make windows live mail my default news client and I answered no. From that point on, I've been getting an error message and the

hello from a very excited and totally blind python programmer and game player

2018-07-24 Thread Daniel Perry
Hi there everyone, my name is Daniel Perry and I'm a totally blind new Python user. I've only just recently started picking up python and playing with it and I intend on building some unique audio computer games for the blind. Such things mostly as simulation games like farming, building type ga

Re: hello!! i was Installing Tensor flow with gpu support and something went wrong

2017-06-12 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/12/2017 2:18 PM, jlada...@itu.edu wrote: On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 10:40:25 AM UTC-7, Forsaken uttax wrote: hello!! I was trying to install Tensorflow on my laptop with Gpu support so I Installed python the one in the screenshot below, and I put in pip Tensorflow Install

Re: hello!! i was Installing Tensor flow with gpu support and something went wrong

2017-06-12 Thread jladasky
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 10:40:25 AM UTC-7, Forsaken uttax wrote: > hello!! >I was trying to install Tensorflow on my laptop with Gpu support > so I Installed python the one in the screenshot below, and I put in pip > Tensorflow Install command and it says syntax error

hello!! i was Installing Tensor flow with gpu support and something went wrong

2017-06-12 Thread Forsaken uttax
hello!! I was trying to install Tensorflow on my laptop with Gpu support so I Installed python the one in the screenshot below, and I put in pip Tensorflow Install command and it says syntax error so i try to update the pip that too doesn't work desperate for solution help me. Re

Re: Hello from a super noob!

2017-06-08 Thread Andre Müller
Hello, you can refactor your code a little bit and learn more about exceptions: def get_numbers(): first = None second = None while True: try: if first is None: first = int(input('Enter your first number: ')) if seco

Re: Hello from a super noob!

2017-06-08 Thread Rhodri James
On 08/06/17 00:56, CB wrote: Hi everyone, I am taking a python class and I'm stuck in an exercise. what am i doing wrong? Can anyone try to run it? Thanks so much! It helps if you describe what is going wrong. Not just us, either; "Teddy Bear Debugging", explaining to a colleague (or indeed

Re: Hello from a super noob!

2017-06-07 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 09:56 am, CB wrote: > Can anyone try to run it? Yes, you can. Doctor to patient: "So, what seems to be the problem?" Patient: "You're the doctor, you tell me." -- Steve “Cheer up,” they said, “things could be worse.” So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse.

Re: Hello from a super noob!

2017-06-07 Thread MRAB
On 2017-06-08 00:56, CB wrote: Hi everyone, I am taking a python class and I'm stuck in an exercise. what am i doing wrong? Can anyone try to run it? Thanks so much! #Description:Input validation and while loops. import random def main(): #main function need in all programs for automated test

Hello from a super noob!

2017-06-07 Thread CB
Hi everyone, I am taking a python class and I'm stuck in an exercise. what am i doing wrong? Can anyone try to run it? Thanks so much! #Description:Input validation and while loops. import random def main(): #main function need in all programs for automated testing #your program goes

Re: Hello

2016-03-12 Thread alister
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:53:45 -0500, Larry Martell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > >> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:28 pm, rubengoods...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >> > I am having trouble installing the Python software. >> >> Make sure your computer is turned on. I can't t

Re: Hello

2016-03-11 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:53 am, Larry Martell wrote: > Many years ago (c. 1985) I was at a job interview and the interviewer > asked me what the first thing I would do when I am presented with a new > problem that I had to code up. I gave all sorts of answers like 'do a top > down analysis of the pr

Re: Hello

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:28 pm, rubengoods...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > I am having trouble installing the Python software. > > Make sure your computer is turned on. I can't tell you how many times I've > tried to install Python, and I type com

Re: Hello

2016-03-11 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:28 pm, rubengoods...@yahoo.com wrote: > I am having trouble installing the Python software. Make sure your computer is turned on. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to install Python, and I type commands and click icons and nothing happens. It's really frustrating w

Re: Hello

2016-03-11 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 11/03/2016 03:28, rubengoodson3--- via Python-list wrote: I am having trouble installing the Python software. Sent from Windows Mail This type of question has been asked and answered repeatedly over the last few months so I suggest that you search the archives for your precise problem.

Hello

2016-03-11 Thread rubengoodson3--- via Python-list
I am having trouble installing the Python software. Sent from Windows Mail -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Hello.

2016-01-19 Thread Felix Almeida
Check your PATH environment variable. On 16/01/16 04:41 PM, Hmood Js wrote: cmd won't recognize python at all I've checked several times , and I don't understand what's wrong Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Hello.

2016-01-17 Thread jacob Kruger
Environment variables pointing to c:\python..? (needs to point to actual installation directory) Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..." On 2016-01-16 11:41 PM, Hmood Js wrote: cmd won't recognize python at all I've checked s

Re: Hello.

2016-01-17 Thread Bernardo Sulzbach
This is likely due to the fact that python.exe is not in PATH. Try reinstalling Python with this option or adding it yourself. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Hello.

2016-01-17 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Hmood Js wrote: > cmd won't recognize python at all I've checked several times , and I don't > understand what's wrong What does this mean exactly? Can you give an example? Thank you. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mail

Hello.

2016-01-17 Thread Hmood Js
cmd won't recognize python at all I've checked several times , and I don't understand what's wrong Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Hello

2015-12-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Seung Kim wrote: > See message below. > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Seung Kim wrote: > >> I would like to have Python 3.5.1 MSI installer files for both 32-bit and >> 64-bit so that I can deploy the software on managed computers on campus. >> >> When I ran

Re: Hello

2015-12-11 Thread Seung Kim
See message below. On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Seung Kim wrote: > I would like to have Python 3.5.1 MSI installer files for both 32-bit and > 64-bit so that I can deploy the software on managed computers on campus. > > When I ran the silent install command line on python-3.5.1.exe, the > re

Re: Hello

2015-09-21 Thread Zachary Ware
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:10 AM, moon khondkar wrote: > Hello I have problem with python installation.I downloaded python 3.5 but I > cannot use it on my computer.I can not open the idle. I get something like > saying "users\local settings\Application > data\programs\p

RE: Hello

2015-09-19 Thread Watson, Paul
> Hello I have problem with python installation.I downloaded python 3.5 but > I cannot use it on my computer.I can not open the idle. I get something like > saying > "users\local settings\Application data\programs\python\python35-32\pythonw.exe > is not valid win32 applicati

Re: Hello

2015-09-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/09/2015 18:31, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:10:55 +0100, moon khondkar declaimed the following: Hello I have problem with python installation.I downloaded python 3.5 but I cannot use it on my computer.I can not open the idle. I get something like saying "users\

Re: Hello

2015-09-19 Thread Random832
Dennis Lee Bieber writes: > While Windows likes to stuff things in directories with spaces in them, > I find third-party applications (especially those that are created for > multiple OSes) work better when installed in directories that have no > spaces... Hey, don't put this on being creat

Re: Hello

2015-09-19 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 9/17/2015 8:10 AM, moon khondkar wrote: Hello I have problem with python installation.I downloaded python 3.5 but I cannot use it on my computer.I can not open the idle. I get something like saying "users\local settings\Application data\programs\python\python35-32\pythonw.exe is not

Hello

2015-09-19 Thread moon khondkar
Hello I have problem with python installation.I downloaded python 3.5 but I cannot use it on my computer.I can not open the idle. I get something like saying "users\local settings\Application data\programs\python\python35-32\pythonw.exe is not valid win32 application. Thanks that will be

Re: Hello

2015-09-04 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:37:04 AM UTC+5:30, Phuong Phan wrote: > Hi Python community, Hi Phuong Phan > I am new to Python and currently taking one online course of computer science > and programming using Python. I really like Python because it is simple and > clarity but powerful t

Hello

2015-09-02 Thread Phuong Phan
Hi Python community, I am new to Python and currently taking one online course of computer science and programming using Python. I really like Python because it is simple and clarity but powerful to me. I just joint Python mailing list and i hope to enjoy Python programming discussion with you all.

Re: Hello Group and how to practice?

2015-05-31 Thread Cem Karan
On May 31, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Anders Johansen wrote: > Den søndag den 31. maj 2015 kl. 16.22.10 UTC+2 skrev Cem Karan: >> On May 31, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Anders Johansen wrote: >> >>> Hi my name is Anders I am from Denmark, and I am new to programming and >>> python. >>> >>> Currently, I am doi

Re: Hello Group and how to practice?

2015-05-31 Thread Anders Johansen
Den søndag den 31. maj 2015 kl. 16.22.10 UTC+2 skrev Cem Karan: > On May 31, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Anders Johansen wrote: > > > Hi my name is Anders I am from Denmark, and I am new to programming and > > python. > > > > Currently, I am doing the codecademy.com python course, but sometime I feel >

Re: Hello Group and how to practice?

2015-05-31 Thread Cem Karan
On May 31, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Anders Johansen wrote: > Hi my name is Anders I am from Denmark, and I am new to programming and > python. > > Currently, I am doing the codecademy.com python course, but sometime I feel > that the course advances to fast and I lack repeating (practicing) some of

Hello Group and how to practice?

2015-05-31 Thread Anders Johansen
Hi my name is Anders I am from Denmark, and I am new to programming and python. Currently, I am doing the codecademy.com python course, but sometime I feel that the course advances to fast and I lack repeating (practicing) some of the concepts, however I don't feel confident enough to start prog

Re: Hello World in Python

2015-01-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:36:02 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> One thing that I really like doing with my Python students (full >> disclosure: I'm a mentor with www.thinkful.com and am thus at times >> paid to help people learn

Re: Hello World in Python

2015-01-24 Thread Rustom Mody
On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:36:02 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > One thing that I really like doing with my Python students (full > disclosure: I'm a mentor with www.thinkful.com and am thus at times > paid to help people learn Python) is some form of screen-sharing, so I > can watch hi

Re: Hello World in Python

2015-01-24 Thread Christopher J. Pisz
learning any new language, I said, the first step would be a Hello World program. Let's see if we can get that to work. So my buddy creates opens the IDE they gave at the workplace, creates a new project, adds a demo.py file, writes one line : print "Hello World", hits Run in the IDE

Re: Hello World in Python

2015-01-24 Thread Terry Reedy
would be a Hello World program. Let's see if we can get that to work. So my buddy creates opens the IDE they gave at the workplace, creates a new project, adds a demo.py file, writes one line : print "Hello World", hits Run in the IDE and indeed the display is shown at the bottom w

Re: Hello World in Python

2015-01-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Christopher J. Pisz wrote: > So my buddy creates opens the IDE they gave at the workplace, creates a new > project, adds a demo.py file, writes one line : print "Hello World", hits > Run in the IDE and indeed the display is shown at the bottom

Hello World in Python

2015-01-24 Thread Christopher J. Pisz
I am trying to help a buddy out. I am a C++ on Windows guy. This buddy of mine is learning Python at work on a Mac. I figured I could contribute with non language specific questions and such. When learning any new language, I said, the first step would be a Hello World program. Let's s

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico : > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> I believe passwords themselves are the wrong solution. I believe in a >> physical, government-issue object capable of challenge-response. It >> can then be beefed up with extra measures depending on the need. > > I can't

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Michael Ströder
Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Michael Ströder : > >> Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> I believe in a >>> physical, government-issue object >> >> Did you forget the smiley? Or where were you during the last 1,5 years? > > You can juggle the issues all you want. In the end, there's

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: >> For instance, someone could join my wifi >> network - all they need is the WPA2 PSK, which is well known around >> the place - and use/abuse our internet connection; but they couldn't >> access my PostgreSQL databases, because the firewall

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Michael Torrie : > >> Most password policies are the wrong solution. > > I believe passwords themselves are the wrong solution. I believe in a > physical, government-issue object capable of challenge-response. It can > then be beefed up with

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Michael Ströder : > Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> I believe in a >> physical, government-issue object > > Did you forget the smiley? Or where were you during the last 1,5 years? You can juggle the issues all you want. In the end, there's no escaping the governments' underw

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Michael Ströder
Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Michael Ströder > wrote: >> Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Want security? >>> Push the encryption and authentication down to a lower layer, and save >>> yourself the trouble. >> >> Yes. And now for the next level: How to prevent unauthorized ma

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: > Chris Angelico wrote: >> Want security? >> Push the encryption and authentication down to a lower layer, and save >> yourself the trouble. > > Yes. And now for the next level: How to prevent unauthorized machines to > connect to your netwo

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Michael Ströder
Chris Angelico wrote: > Want security? > Push the encryption and authentication down to a lower layer, and save > yourself the trouble. Yes. And now for the next level: How to prevent unauthorized machines to connect to your network… Ciao, Michael. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Michael Ströder
Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > I believe in a > physical, government-issue object Did you forget the smiley? Or where were you during the last 1,5 years? Ciao, Michael. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Michael Ströder
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> Bah humbug, this has reminded me of doing secure work whereby each >> individual had two passwords, both of which had to be changed every >> thirty days, and rules were enforced so you couldn't just increment the >> number at the end of a word or

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Michael Ströder
Michael Torrie wrote: > Like many of you I use a password manager these days. It's pretty > slick. But really it shows the absurdity of the situation. Instead of > passwords we should all just use private/public keypairs and store the > private keys in a digital wallet. Forget this password gar

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Roy Smith
In article <54bb2c5f$0$12977$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > You know that two-factor authentication doesn't offer any real security > against Man In The Middle attacks? The fact that TFA doesn't solve all problems doesn't change the fact that it solves some of th

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Michael Torrie : > Most password policies are the wrong solution. I believe passwords themselves are the wrong solution. I believe in a physical, government-issue object capable of challenge-response. It can then be beefed up with extra measures depending on the need. Marko -- https://mail.pyt

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > Like many of you I use a password manager these days. It's pretty > slick. But really it shows the absurdity of the situation. Instead of > passwords we should all just use private/public keypairs and store the > private keys in a digital

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 01/17/2015 05:04 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Related to that is another reason I've heard: if your password is > figured out by some means other than hash theft [1], there's a maximum > of N days to make use of it. But let's face it, if someone gets hold > of one of your accounts, it won't take

Re: Hello World

2015-01-18 Thread Jason Friedman
> > > Password maximum age is the wrong solution to a few problems, and is > itself a problem. Don't do it. > > Bruce Schneier (mostly) agrees with you: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/11/changing_passwo.html. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > (I am very cynical about most of the "security features" the banks are > pushing for, since in my opinion they are more about giving the banks > plausible deniablity so they can push responsibility for security breaches > onto the customer.

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Tim Chase wrote: > You think that's bad, one million Google Authenticator 2-factor > verification codes were leaked: > > https://twitter.com/paulmutton/status/509991378647277568 > > Those hackers are a wily bunch. ;-) http://torrent-city.net/download/Li/List-of-A

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Tim Chase
On 2015-01-17 22:18, Roy Smith wrote: > Tell me about it. I have an E-Trade ATM card. When I first got > it, I set it up with a 6 digit PIN. I was shocked to discover some > time later that it actually only looks at the first 4 digits. And, > no, I'm not talking *characters*, I'm talking *digit

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Roy Smith wrote: > In article <54bb1c83$0$12979$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> Even that doesn't protect you, because your security is controlled by >> websites and banks etc. with stupid security policies. E.g. I am forced >> to deal with one bank that uses

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Roy Smith
In article <54bb1c83$0$12979$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Even that doesn't protect you, because your security is controlled by > websites and banks etc. with stupid security policies. E.g. I am forced to > deal with one bank that uses a cryptographic key to sign

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Albert van der Horst wrote: > In article , wrote: >>Michael Torrie wrote: >>> On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: >>> > In article , >>> > Chris Angelico wrote: >>> > >>> >> >>> >> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user >>> >> accounts altogether an

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Michael Torrie
On 01/17/2015 11:47 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: >> sudo makes administrators careless, lazy and it is not simple at all. > > Admins must have separate accounts with separate credentials for > administrative work and must be careful when using an administrative account. Right. This is not a bad id

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
Sorry for necro. On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> Just to be clear, writing to sys.stdout works fine in Idle. >>>>> import sys; sys.stdout.write('hello ') >> hello #2.7 >

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > The merely poor reason given by the more thoughtful sys admins is, if the > password hashes get stolen, the hacker has a maximum of N days (and > possibly less) to crack the hashes and recover the passwords before they > get changed. That'

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Mark Lawrence wrote: > Bah humbug, this has reminded me of doing secure work whereby each > individual had two passwords, both of which had to be changed every > thirty days, and rules were enforced so you couldn't just increment the > number at the end of a word or similar. I hate and despise sy

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Michael Ströder
alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) wrote: > In article , wrote: >> Michael Torrie wrote: >>> On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > > But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user >

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 17/01/2015 16:47, c...@isbd.net wrote: Michael Torrie wrote: On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: In article , Chris Angelico wrote: But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler! I

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Albert van der Horst
In article , wrote: >Michael Torrie wrote: >> On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: >> > In article , >> > Chris Angelico wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user >> >> accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY si

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread cl
Michael Torrie wrote: > On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: > > In article , > > Chris Angelico wrote: > > > >> > >> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user > >> accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler! > > > > I didn't excep

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Michael Torrie
On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user >> accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler! > > I didn't except this strawman argument from you. > Of c

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread cl
Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Albert van der Horst > wrote: > > In article , > > Chris Angelico wrote: > > > >> > >>But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user > >>accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler! > > > > I did

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Albert van der Horst
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: >On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Steve Hayes wrote: >> On 08 Jan 2015 12:43:33 GMT, alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) >> wrote: >> >>>I don't trust sudo because it is too complicated. >>>(To the point that I removed it from my machine.) >>>I do >

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >>But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user >>accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler! > > I didn't except this strawman argument from you.

Re: Hello World

2015-01-17 Thread Albert van der Horst
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > >But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user >accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler! I didn't except this strawman argument from you. Of course you need a distinction between doing system things as root, and

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